I am still thinking if i should just keep my 10 years old Iswara, or buy aother car. and i still have to decide to get a brand new Myvi, or a secondhand Toyota within the same price range. Any suggestion? And which bank offer the best package for loan now?

finished paying off the loan? the car is still in good condition? better you just keep that iswara.

yah coz no price for 10 years old iswara. Keep it as there would be a nice of use one day

2 be honest, u really cant get much 4 ur old iswara.. as u probably know, the 2nd hand market is really bad these days, especially 4 proton cars.. the market price 4 ur car is bout under 10k.. some people r even selling theirs at under 8k!! so my advice is, juz keep the iswara.. n if u wanna buy the myvi, juz buy it.. keep 2 cars..

My Iswara just started to behave, have to spend money to replace some part once every few months, fed up with it. last year l check i can still sell it for 11 to 12K, now only 6 to 7K. If i dont sell it its going to be worthless next 2 years. Just bought a house, otherwise got money to buy a new Vios or even a new Camry.

have ur car properly checked by trustworthy mechanic. Don't buy new car just for the sake of changing car. Having to pay both car loan and house loan at the same time will really burden you.

keep the iswara and get another car. at least you got one old car to do your dirty work.
dirty work as in go play field football and you have mud all over esp when it rains, futsal, wet market shopping, carry stuffs etc etc.

i got toyota corolla seg 1.6 and myvi (auto).

obviously toyota is a better car , more powerful, better handling, comfortable and most important the fuel consumption is about the same as myvi.
maintenance depend on the condition. generally i found that toyota's part is more "durable" compare to proton (even new car).
iswara no need to compare la.

if u cant affort to lose money, stick to your old car and wait until the car price stable. but bare in mind, u buy cheap, u sell your car also cheap. no point to keep 2 cars unless u got somebody 12 use.

Becuase the money spent to maintain an old car is worthless sometimes. There is going to cost a lot of money if i want to restore it back to its tip toe condition, especially those engine's parts.

ur're right a 10year old isware needs to be take care, changing small-small parts all the time, and u'll feel not worth to maintain the car?

can the car still run long distances...?
any major breakdown or serious problem like rusty...?
if it is a minor parts replacement, better off use back the car...
or any of ur family member needs a ride...?

Are you kidding, my 6-year old Iswara was traded-in for 9.5K only late last year. Called up many dealers, all same price. 11k before inspection, 9.5k after inspection.

well, if u think u wanna sell it, juz go ahead then.. but do bear in mind, besides the very low resale value, the 2nd hand market is full wit iswara's, wit better condition or newer, selling at bout the same price too..

this is not 2 pull u down or make u feel bad or anythin.. its juz facts of the 2nd hand market these days..

juz try ask around.. see if u can sell at a good price.. if u get somewhere around 10k, id say juz let go.. thats a good deal already..

dude, im not kidding.. my family's in the car trade too.. i know the market..

n a bit of an info 4 u dude, in the car trade world, even its last n this yr wit a difference of only one day (31st dec n 1st of jan), it'll make a big difference in price..

if u still dont believe, try calling up ur dealers now.. ask how much theyre willing 2 take a yr 97 iswara..

This post has been edited by CooShyRee: Jan 22 2007, 04:08 PM

Ok i decide to keep it, get a quot for 1K to spray back with 2K white paint, then need to see what else need to be change to make it regain some power back. Darn last year my original carburetor and regulator got stolen and have to spent 1.2K to replace it with parts from chop shop, and since then its performance had been suffer. So Iswara owner beware, your parts will still be stolen even if its a 10 years old car.

BTW, need u guys suggestion in what to do to make my Iswara more powerfull, well slitly powerful then . Now when i go beyond 120km/h the whole car will be shaking already. Thinking of changing the whole engine, what do u think?

shaking?? my aunt also got iswara year 97-98, plao ADN green colour, but still working in good condition, last desember go to Batang berjuntai from Taiping, can reach 130-140 without problem, AND wit 5 pasengers.....

Whole car shaking at that speed is due to aerodynamics, which is a bit hard to improve.
Engine power easily improved by improving the intake system. There's a pinned thread about it, read it to get some idea. Change whole engine to a newer one also can. A newer engine would give you a bit more reliabillity.

ya, new enjin also good or try searching at half cut, put 1.6 mitsu enjin if posible,,, more better

Pls bear in mind ur car started to aged, so parts may wear off pretty soon. Although parts can be easily sourced due that this is a popular model, if u have the money to buy a new car, why not?

But expect a poor 2nd hand value, at less than 10k due that this is an old car and the 2nd market is pretty overcrowded for this model.

So if u want to buy a new car, what ur budget?

This post has been edited by travis_ckf: Jan 22 2007, 05:58 PM

i agree wit travis.. if it were me, id say keep the iswara.. but if u wanna sell, sell immediately..

Sorry i am noob in car business. whats half cut? And any good workshop u guys can recommend?

Wah, in that case i suggest u better off buying a new car instead. keeping ur car and modding it may need u to learnt how to mod cars, which is a hefty process unless u have passion on cars.

I only have passion when i can afford it I wont say mod, just to fix it. I wont expect my Iswara to run like a Porsh.

im guessin that u have no more loans 2 pay on that car.. so, 2 options.. either sell it off n use that money 2 make downpayment 4 new car or keep the iswara n repair it back again.. 1st plan, upside is, no headache as its a new car, but downside is have 2 start paying new loan.. 2nd option is, downside, u have 2 spent a lot 2 restore the car, but upside is no need 2 start a new loan..

so, ur choice..

hey bro halfcut basically means getting parts from those kedai potong where certain cars were involve in accidents and no longer roadworthy, therefore they are salvaged for useful parts ie engine...but getting a halfcut requires many considerations especially to people like us who noe very little bout cars....unless u have a reliable mechanic that knows a thing or two and has reliable supplier...otherwise, a few k may be gone buying an engine that has been "trashed" during its prime time...if u understand what i mean.. therefore, if ur iswara engine could still move u around without much difficulties in morning cranking or frequent breakdowns, in my opinion, stick to it

apart from that, ur car shakes upon cruising at 100++ km/p could be caused by many reasons..
first of all, has ur vehicle undergo any wheel balancing or alignment recently? if not, get it done...
2ndly, are ur tires still in good condition? if they are bloated or has uneven surface, chances are, it will shake....if so get it change.....
3rdly, did u have the suspension+absorber checked?..most probably they have worn out after all these years of travelling...changing faulty ones could save u alot in rubber in the future

lastly, if u wan to squeeze more juice out of ur aged engine...you might consider a overhauling of the engine (bear in mind, this is very expensive)..and the result, FC improve and u would get back some uuhhhmmm from it ...additionally, you could change ur exhaust system to a better one?...well this is oso costly....but thats the relationship between power & cost.....more power more costly....

frankly speaking, since u have decided to keep ur trusted pal, and has one house loan on your shoulder....i would recommend u to do what is more important first...ie what is necessary to bring ur car's condition to a safe level...others that doesnt contribute to tat can wait....

cheers

Thanks for the usefull info. All this years i never concern about cars as long as it can bring me where i want. I guest i will have to learn now. Thanks again.

glad to be able to help bro....still learning as well for myself...hope to share my little knowlegde if they are useful

cheers

Actually my car never really breakdown before, its just the small small thing that bothers me. Like riseup, vacum, meter cable, air-con compressor and recently it need more time to warm up and problem in maintaning the rpm when turning on the air-con. Any clue on that?

so i assume that u wanna stick 2 ur old iswara then TS??

off topic : juz a bit of advice NewVi, u might wanna make that sig of urs smaller.. they have strict rules in here bout sigs.. i juz got warned 10% few weeks back 4 an oversized sig..

OOT oso...really ar...thx ar....will chg fast

bro tong1774 : maybe sum tuning will solve that prob of urs bro

You've mistaken my point. I'm saying the Iswara will sell for very low, I gave an example of my own trade-in becos it was very low too. If your family's in the car trade, then you should know a 10-year old Iswara can't really fetch 10k, right? A 6-year old was already quoted for 10k, so how can a 10-year old be quoted for the same price?

This post has been edited by Dannyl: Jan 22 2007, 08:15 PM

Saw two 10 years Iswara in Motor Trader and 1 selling for 9.5K and another for 8.5K. So imagine the price when the dealer buy from u

Keep the car, as long as no major prob its good if u wan to drive down to KL city center, no need to worry about the bumper corners kena kiss

oh, sorry.. i misunderstood ur point..

yup, ure rite.. thats y i said its damn lucky if the TS can get bout 10k 4 his old iswara.. ideally, he only can get bout 6-7k if he were 2 sell 2 dealers..

market damn bad these days.. very hard 4 car traders 2 carik makan also

This post has been edited by CooShyRee: Jan 22 2007, 10:12 PM

U gotta compare the old car with a new iswara pricing of around 25k only - the old 97 iswara wont be worth much to sell.. might as well keep it

But if he sells the car(which I assume is fully paid, 10 years, should have), the money he gets can be used to pay quite a downpayment.

my 2003 iswara trade in last year june only RM18k ...

jual saja habis cerita

i wouldn't be wrong if i say you spend about 3-5k a year just to maintain that old junk

i'd rather spent that money on installments for a new car

besides, a new car gives you a peace of mind - safety as a priority and less time to think about maintenance

keeping your old junk for another few yrs won't make much difference. the price is now near terminal - that is nearing it's lowest price point. if u get anywhere around 7 - 9k for the car (before repairs and stuff), just sell it and get a new car.

just bear in mind, take account of your house loan monthly repayment before deciding your budget

(rule of thumb: 1/3 salary for the house, 1/4 for the car, the rest for the growing family)

With my salary i manage to pay both at the same time, but u will never know. Things happen. And with the car loan i have to save on other stuff like DVDs, food and other good things in life.

keep mate! keep!

maintance will not cost u as much as buying a new car. besides loan, u got new insurance, services.. bla bla bla, its gonna cost u a bomb. better keep n use old car unless u got extra $$ to spend.

eh brader, 18k quite ok wat..
wats your milage?

mine april 2004, 92k milage as of now, only 11k leh

so i din trade in, just park it in the house and use the car for those dirty works lor..

I am staying in a condo, so more car means more parking fees. And last time i park outside of my condo and get like 1 saman every 2 days. Never pay them though... I believe i got like 200 of them. Malaysia book of record

60k++...but initially think quite low...but no choice because i dunno the procedure if i sell myself...so just trade in ...



from whose 1? PDRM?



This post has been edited by Ken: Jan 23 2007, 08:35 AM

18k is quite high in-fact....
considering a new iswara is in the region of 30k

Cant tell u in case there are spy here