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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V) VI, Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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Ramjade
post Aug 5 2016, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Aug 5 2016, 12:31 PM)
Is it can buy anytime or need wait opening?
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Can buy anytime but subject to unit availability and whether worker at the bank want to try for you or not. tongue.gif laugh.gif rclxs0.gif Of course if you are priority customer, you can just leave the book there. whistling.gif whistling.gif Not recommended if you have don't have time to camp at the bank.
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post Aug 5 2016, 05:20 PM

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Just empty my ASG into ASW. Now all my ASG left ~ 100 unit each. rclxm9.gif Kering already. Until next time. biggrin.gif
ASW2020 RM6300
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post Aug 5 2016, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Aug 5 2016, 07:26 PM)
Congrats UHNWS.

So, are you on 200k-250k range?
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Belum sampai RM100k pun.
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post Aug 6 2016, 07:48 AM

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QUOTE(ihowin @ Aug 6 2016, 03:18 AM)
hi guys, need all your opinion. so recently, I wanted to open an ASM account but it was not available so they suggested me to open an ASG account and I did. After doing little bit of research, it seems that ASG has quite some few negativity but that was like around 5 years or 4 years ago. I open with a minimum of RM500 last time and wonder if I should top up another RM2500? Also how is ASG different from ASM?

(it would be a long term investment for me, I know there's a pin post about it on this forum but I still dont quite understand)

Much thanks if someone is able to give suggestion and explanation about it.
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Big mistake on your part. Why?
1) You lose 5%+ on the spot (ASG have service charge while ASM have none)
2) ASG follow KLCI so the returns be < 6.x% (ASM). I got returns of 1.x% before. That's why I decide to convert to fixed price ASX. (cut loss after holding ~3 years)
3) There are better funds available on FSM with only 2% SC compare to ASG 5% SC.
4) ASG NAV flacuates not like ASM. So you CAN LOSE money. ASM NAV is fixed at RM1/unit. How to lose money?

Forget about topping up ASG. Go try luck opening the other 3 fixed price funds. ASW2020, ASM, AS1M. There are places with higher chance to open listed on first page.

If I am not mistaken, the bank gets comission for ASG. You should have walk away. Bow that RM500 is stuck inside there for at least 3 years to break even (to get back your principal)

Hope this answer your question

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post Aug 6 2016, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(Asmasw2020 @ Aug 6 2016, 07:01 PM)
Bought 20k. Current value below cost price by around rm500.
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Just wait until next year. Wait until after dividend + ~4 months, sure you will get back your prinicpal.
Factor in the 5% SC as well.
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post Aug 6 2016, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 6 2016, 08:49 PM)
Take note tat Dividend is irrelevant for VP funds
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Dividend not important but NAV sure will rebound unless it's very bad.

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 6 2016, 08:56 PM)
Suddenly klci crash how? blink.gif
Habis lah...
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I believed KLCI already low already. How low further can it go? Compare to me, I bought when KLCI was all time high.

QUOTE(ihowin @ Aug 6 2016, 08:58 PM)
Ahh alright thanks man for the info!! Seems now I would need to try my luck to open the fixed price funds, is there any online website or anything to check for availability or something? As far as I know, usually this thing, it would be way beneficial if you know anyone from inside to help open an account.
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No online website. Only ASNB branches can see for you availability of units. You don't need someone inside to open. I am a perfect example. Nobody inside, no priority relationship to leave book at counter. But I am a student. So not counted as lots of free time. tongue.gif
Btw, I opened mine at banks.not ASNB branch.

QUOTE(ihowin @ Aug 6 2016, 09:01 PM)
Thanks!! Gonna get the funds ready and stanby outside their office before open hahahaha. Usually is hard to open fixed price account though. May I know where to check for next upcoming dividend or availability of the account?
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Check first page. The dates are listed there for dividend date.

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Wonder whether I can topup 5 figure for ASW2020 this coming dividend date. Got one FD maturing... hmm.gif hmm.gif

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QUOTE(Asmasw2020 @ Aug 6 2016, 09:22 PM)
Me2. Might sell off my asg n trf to asw.. 😥
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I recommend you hold for 2-3 years and see. Don't be too hasty.
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QUOTE(wonglokat @ Aug 6 2016, 09:53 PM)
Accompanied a friend to do her ASB and ASM topup at PNB office. Enquire with the staff and they're very keen on pushing the new ASx products and said non-bumi shares in ASM/ASW difficult to get.

Anyone fortunate enough in recent months to successfully open an account?
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What ASX products did they recommend?
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QUOTE(tonytyk @ Aug 6 2016, 10:16 PM)
Wow, cash rich UHNW, sure have priority lane
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Nah if got priority lane, sure leave book at counter already. I camp at bank and try luck. sad.gif
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post Aug 7 2016, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(tonytyk @ Aug 6 2016, 11:58 PM)
Will be very competitive top up then, as everyone seems to be aiming for that. Hope have sufficient units available for top up by all.
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You don't need to wait until then. Topup whenever you are free to visit the bank. You can also topup ASM and AS1M if ASW2020 doesn't have.
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post Aug 7 2016, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(wonglokat @ Aug 7 2016, 12:20 AM)
Thanks for the replies. Indeed, the variable price fund. Will try again the next time I go then (ASW September!).

Kinda disconcerting to see my friend getting as much ASM as she wants. But I'm offered the option of piggybacking on her ASB (:
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ASB is fixed price. Give better returns than ASW2020, ASM, AS1M.
If your friend can get ASM, next time you go just bring cash along to topup ASM too. Don't need to wait for ASW2020.
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QUOTE(tonytyk @ Aug 7 2016, 05:37 AM)
so can top up 100k to 200k per day previously  ?
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Yes. Our big boss ia one of them. ~Rm20k/transaction. Total 6 figure. But that was because
1) megasales
2) leave book at counter.

Even without megasales, one can easily get 5 figure IF one can leave book at the counter. For those don't have the privilege to leave book at the counter, be like auntie twinkle. Camp at the bank everyday. She managed 6 figure in 1 month.

For the condition now, RM100k/day might be hard. But 5 figure/day should be doable.

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QUOTE(tonytyk @ Aug 7 2016, 11:11 AM)
What about ASM? Didn't see any such allocation on page 1, so it is open for anyone without limitation ? I am sure they still have data on actual ownership of the units, right?
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ASM is everyone can topup. People withdraw for Hari Raya, CNY, Deepavali, semua boleh ambil. thumbup.gif Like airasia. Everyone can fly.
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post Aug 8 2016, 09:38 PM

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Hopefully tomorrow I can dump my remaining RM1500 into ASW2020. Then I will take a short break until 1/9 and then redump 5 figure of FD into ASW2020.
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post Aug 9 2016, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Aug 9 2016, 08:50 AM)
So much bullets for a student.

Comply with Anti Money Laundering Act?
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No worries. Got paper trail and money small amount only. Student ma. Mana ada RM50k+ FD one. sad.gif sad.gif

Managed to grab RM3300 for ASW2020. I suspect that's more available. Broke liao. cry.gif cry.gif

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QUOTE(wonglokat @ Aug 9 2016, 12:40 PM)
How long / many tries will the staff at the counter be willing to hunt for available units? I've seen some persistent aunties and uncles in my last visit. I don't think I'm much of a haggler / implore-r  blink.gif
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Last week they try 5x for me for AS1M. Multiple RM2k. After that the counter woman siad no more cause she have lots of customer and she haven't went for lunch.

QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 9 2016, 01:25 PM)
When u grab 3.3k for ASW2020?
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This morning. About 10am.
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QUOTE(tonytyk @ Aug 9 2016, 03:58 PM)
Hmm, not worth to top up the month before dividend date then
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Eg.
On 1/9 only got RM1k units available vs On 15/8 got RM20k of units. So you tell me worth to topup on 1/9 or 15/8? laugh.gif laugh.gif
Unless you are lucky can get RM20k of units on 1/9. tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Aug 9 2016, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 9 2016, 08:53 PM)
Does AmBank offer FP funds?
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Doesn't matter. I am sticking to Maybank and Affin Bank. Affin Bank and Ambank might be out of the way but at least Affin bank will tell me:
"Kamu nak berapa? Kita cuba dari yang besar dulu.
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post Aug 10 2016, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Aug 10 2016, 04:43 PM)
But for non bumis, ASB is only limited to a very small amount no?
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The sky is the limit for ASW2020, ASM, AS1M. Get 6.x% p.a and your NAV is ALWAYS RM1/unit, don't want?

Only catch :
1) money added after 2nd of the month will not get dividend for that month
2) camp at bank to get the units unless you have PB.

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