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Ramjade
post Sep 18 2016, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(kart @ Sep 18 2016, 01:32 PM)
Thanks for the suggestion. smile.gif

But, at Maybank Menara PNB, all withdrawal forms are without carbon copy. sad.gif

I am not really a person that can really sweet talk the officers at Agent Banks, to try multiple times for ASNB top-up. For sure, I know the common courtesy, such as 'terima kasih banyak-banyak". As usual, they will put up an Oscar show, saying no units.

The officers at ASNB HQ will help me to try multiple times for ASNB top-up, without me saying anything. That is why I choose to take the hassle to go to ASNB HQ. The chances there are better for me, at least.  smile.gif
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I think rm50k cash a day at ASNB is good enough. Just try rm50k/day then come back the next day.
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post Sep 18 2016, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(you90 @ Sep 18 2016, 02:22 PM)
Hey guys,

wanna ask the ASNB will declare the dividens for all category (AS1M, ASB, ASM, ASW etc ) on the 1st of October right?

For Non Bumi, other than AS1M (no surcharge) and ASW(5% surcharged, so not thinking to invest)  , what other category with no surcharge can a non bumi invest in?

I know it is always good to diversify your investment, hence I do not wish to just putting all money in AS1M only.

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Not true. Refer first page to see dividend date.
Again not true. ASW2020, ASM, AS1M does not have any service charge.
For non bumi fixed price are the 3. For variable price, it's asg, asn3
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QUOTE(heavensea @ Sep 18 2016, 02:40 PM)
Fp bettet than fd as I know..
I am not bumi, and not familiar with this kind of fp. Where can I buy fp? At bank?
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Yes. At the bank. Best is bank is affin, maybank, rhb, cimb. Besides bank can buy from post office, asnb branch. Before buying, need to open account first. Opening account is the hard one. Refer to first page on places to open account.

Opening account + topping up units is subjected to units availability.
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post Sep 18 2016, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(qqmcdull @ Sep 18 2016, 01:27 PM)
hi all sifus...
open new account at bank need to pay extra 5% charge?
around klang where the branch located?
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If you are in klang, affin bank bukit tinggi and maybank bukit tinggi are good place to topup. I recommend affin bank bukit tinggi for topping up. For opening, maybank klang town, rhb old klang town
Opening is FOC. You don't need to pay anything for fixed price fund.

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QUOTE(you90 @ Sep 18 2016, 04:12 PM)
Thanks. Noted the dividen declared date for AS1M is on 30 Sept!

I shall aim for opening new account for ASW 2020 and ASM too. Do you know any place near University Malaya, KL where I can open a new account for ASW 2020 and/or ASM?
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Check first page. Sone say kl sentral maybank is good.
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post Sep 18 2016, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Sep 18 2016, 09:17 PM)
Hi guys, I gonna open an account at Maybank at tomorrow. It is bundle with high interest rate of FD promotion (3 months) only.

May I know is it any possibility that I could make losses by parking my money into Amanah Saham Wawasan? The manager told me the price is low now, (ekonomi merosot) he advise me to buy it now.
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I think you going to kena tipu. FD with amanah saham? Most likely ASG/ASN3. Not ASW2020. Price is low now not true for amanah saham wawasan as ASW2020 is fixed price fund. Buy and sell at RM1/unit. ASG/ASN3 on the other hand... That one can rugi + 5% Sc. ASW2020 does not have 5% SC. If you do have manage to get the FD, ask for ASM, AS1M, ASW2020 or no deal. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(heavensea @ Sep 18 2016, 09:56 PM)
tmr or the day after tmr I will share with you ok? Because I am not sure yet, gonna wait the maybank ppl explain to me.

As I know, it's something like below:

20k amanah saham
20k FD (3 months, very high percentage p.a.)

I guess there are few banks having such promotion lately.
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Just make sure it's either ASM, ASW or AS1M. Anything out of the 3 straight reject. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(heavensea @ Sep 18 2016, 10:00 PM)
thanks bro, I think those are UT... (zzz, no mood)

FD Details

Duration: 3 months
Type: Fixed Deposit
Returns: 8.58% p.a. (fresh funds) / 7.58% (existing funds)
Min placement: RM20,000


ASNB Investment

Min Duration: 12 months
Type: Unit Trust
Min placement: RM20,000
Fund Choices (5): ASN2, ASN3, ASG – Pendidikan / Kesihatan / Persaraan
Novagni (a local UT rating provider) Ratings: 1-3*
Note: Established intl ratings by Lipper & Morningstar were not available.

should I just reject those UT? I don't like UT.. at all  puke.gif
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Avoid. The fund have SC which will eat into your profit. You will get <4%.
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QUOTE(heavensea @ Sep 18 2016, 10:06 PM)
lol so fishy, quite same name to "lure" newbie like me...  sweat.gif
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Banks also need to cari makan. Times are bad. sad.gif

QUOTE(heavensea @ Sep 18 2016, 10:07 PM)
Hi ramjade, you again biggrin.gif

any method I can learn to open account for fixed price fund, I am low risk taker. I don't want invest in UT, not my type.. (not to mention those charges...)
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See first page. Places to try and open. Need to speak nicely and be persistent. Tell them, I tahu memang dah penuh tapi I tahu kalau ada orang jual, I boleh buka. Please try for me. If still don't have, and if you have time, just sit there. Just tell them tak apa I ada banyak waktu. I nak tunggu di sini sampai boleh buka.

QUOTE(heavensea @ Sep 18 2016, 10:10 PM)
that's good, thanks for intro smile.gif

but now I don't have any FP (fixed price) fund account at all, can I open at affin and top up over there?
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Can. Unker bbgoat did it at affin bank. Bundled it with FD. Ask them beforehand first can or not. If cannot then either you place FD with FP, then try opening FP. Or, open FP, dump all money intended for FD into FP.
Just make sure to try open all 3. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(neuro4869 @ Sep 18 2016, 09:52 PM)
I have some noob questions here, pardon me for being a clueless student

If let's say I put RM10K in ASB for the duration of 4 years
1. How much should i expect to benefits over the course of 4 years?
2. If there's a circumstance that need funds immediately, eg in the second year, am I allowed to to withdraw ASB immediately including what I gained over the two years?
3. Which bank do you recommend for opening ASB? Eg; So i can best manage my asb online
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1. About 30%
2. Just make sure to keep min 100 unit inside.
3. If ASB, any account should be fine as it's always available. Can open at any agent. After that, just add ASB to your current online bank account. Only topup is available online. You cannot withdraw online. Each topup cost RM1.06.
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 18 2016, 11:07 PM)
banks really love to "trap" noobie.. that's why always research first before commit to the investments products offered..

one common problems is most people think all ASNB funds is all fixed @ rm1/unit.

ASNB = Safe investment / No losses
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The power of the brand. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Sep 19 2016, 10:03 AM)
I would prefer online top up instead of going to bank to try. Anyone successful in online top up with hight amount say 10k or above ? Sorry as I have not been monitoring this thread for a long time. Any particular agent banks which has better platform for the online top up ?
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Cimb can topup all 3. Maybank only AS1M. Rhb don't know. Just keep in mind that each transaction regardless of amount whether successful/not successful will be charged RM1.06. So if you try 10x = RM10.60 already. biggrin.gif

Not recommended to try RM10k one shot for online as online is harder to get than over the counter. Best try like RM5k multiple times. If you want high amount, best go counter. Higher chance to get.

Another alternative is use your priority banking privilege. biggrin.gif rclxms.gif Leave your book there. Come back at 3pm and give them the money.

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Sep 19 2016, 11:30 AM)
I sure missed out, mind telling me one last time, nexona88 >what are the important dates?
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That thread is not the right place to discuss about amanah saham. Check first page for suggested date. Don't kena tipu by bank if they tell you to buy ASG/ASN3.

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QUOTE(neuro4869 @ Sep 19 2016, 01:27 PM)
It's correct that the gains like bonus will be credited into our asb by every year right? Not each month? Correct?
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Yes is credited once a year but is counted monthly.

QUOTE(neuro4869 @ Sep 19 2016, 01:55 PM)
What if i only started let's say put rm10k in ASB this year November. Am I gonna get the dividend for for the November- December month when i update the passbook  next year?
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As long as you put on 31/10 or 1/11, you will get the November dividend next year. If you put it inside on 2/11, then you won't get dividend for the month of November. But you will get for December.
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QUOTE(qqmcdull @ Sep 18 2016, 09:10 PM)
They told my friend that have 5% charge.
I managed to open two account at hometown.
Klang I'm not familiar with it. Thanks for your reply !
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You want to open in Klang? Actually anywhere also can open. As long as got units and the staff willing to try.

QUOTE(heavensea @ Sep 19 2016, 07:26 PM)
thanks for advise, what do you means by 4 Oct? I've to try my luck everywhere (bank and ASNB?)
I am non bumiputra, thus I must try at those places? (as mentioned in page 1?)

Can I try at bank that non listed as above information?
Thanks to those who provided below places thumbsup.gif
Maybank:
KLIA2, Bdr Bkt Tinggi 1, Klang Town, D'sara Uptown, KL Sentral, Cyberjaya, Cheng & Graha Peladang (Melaka),
Rampai Biz Park, Karak, KLCC, Desa Jaya (Kepong), Taman Pelangi (JB), Kompleks Bandar (OUG), Mid Valley Mall, Kuchai Lama

ASNB:
KL HQ, Melaka, Bayan Lepas, Kuching, Seberang Jaya

PosMalaysia:
HQ KL, Shah Alam, Triang, Klang Utara (near Mydin)

CIMB:
Bangi, Jalan Parry Miri, Taman Putra Ampang, D'sara Uptown

RHB:
Padungan, KLCC, Simpang 3 Kuching, Jalan Stesen Klang, Bandar Utama

Affin Bank:
Cyberjaya
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4th of Oct is date when AS1M will resume transaction. On this day, is post dividend date which means there might/will be people who withdraw out from their dividend. When people withdraw, that's when unit is free up. That's when people looking to topup, open account can topup/open. The 4/10 only applies to AS1M. I recommend you to go to bank and try everyday.

What happen when you go to bank & ASNB? Did they really try to open for you or straight said no units?

I am also a non-bumi. Those places are places where we recommend one to try luck of opening as the staff at the place will help you to open (because we managed to open there ourselves).


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QUOTE(heavensea @ Sep 19 2016, 08:18 PM)
Actually I can try anywhere besides those banks? (I'm out station at kuala terrenganu right now, can I try at banks over here?) I will travel to kl every month, I was planning my schedule to go banks as I thought only those banks willing to open account for me..

Maybank manager over here told me this banyak susah dapat, sudah full quota and etc. Then asked me whether interested with UT (so called asg...) I don't want to invest into UT at all. I'll save those money in efd/gia until I can invest into fp fund.

How long I can get my gia if I urgently need it to top up amanah saham? (Assume I am lucky enough to open the account and quota available for me to top up)

May I know how much they charge for open and top up the units ya?
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Those banks are agents. The recommended banks are Maybank/Affin/Rhb/Cimb. If you don't want to go to banks, try post office or ASNB branch.

That's their standard script everywhere. You will need to push. Tell them I tahu susah. Tapi I tahu kalau ada orang jual, I boleh buka. Tolong cuba utk saya.

You cannot contra from eGIA-i directly. Happen to me before. The only way to contra from eGIA -i is eGIA-i > SA > bank worker. So. Recommend you take pic of your total in eGIA-i to show casher. Once dapat unit, try to get computer/phone access to uplift the required amount from eGIA-i > SA.

Opening account is FOC. No Service charge/tax. To open account, require only RM100/account. So if you want to open all 3 ASW2020, ASM, As1M, you need to get reaady RM300.

Hope that helps.


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QUOTE(you90 @ Sep 19 2016, 08:45 PM)
Can I know which ASB the Maybank manager mentioned full? Is it ASW2020? AS1M? ASM?
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In theory, that's the script which all bank worker at all agent bank will tell you regardless which one you want to apply. In reality, it's not full if got people withdraw.

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Sep 19 2016, 09:11 PM)
thanks berow, I will try open all account (so can top up if any funds got quota)

An aunty already "naik kereta" of CIMB ASG... sigh feel bad didn't advised her earlier because I've no idea what's that amanah saham about.. I also feel weird why so easy those bankers push those amanah to her (as I know fp fund is hard to purchase)

I read some post above that mentioned about "5 % charges", are they bought UT kind of ASG?
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The power of the fixed price reputation. People automatically associate amanah saham = fixed price fund without thinking twice. Regrettably, I am one of them too. Bought it at its peak and regretted it. Didn't know anything that time. Luckily hold for 3 years and got nett return of board rates FD.

5% service charge is for those ASG/ASN3 (variable price fund). Fixed price fund (asb, asb2, asw2020, asm, as1m) have no service charge.

Advise is hold only lo. No choice. Unless want to rugi. First year sure rugi (applies for all UT bought from agents unless the fund can perform >5%). By 3rd year, sure untung a little bit. Dividend only works if the fund NAV can increase. No point giving dividend if the fund NAV never goes back up.

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Sep 20 2016, 10:21 AM)
Any one has experience for online transaction ? Easy, difficult ? From what I read, OTC is easier to get big amt, but how about 5k or so ?
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Harder and troublesome compare to OTC (from previous posts). But still no harm trying RM5k. If the RM5k is not refunded within 3 days to your account, means you got it. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(heavensea @ Sep 20 2016, 11:52 AM)
Hi guys, I've opened AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL account (I'm non bumi). How can I top up via online instead of keep going bank ask?
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AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL= ASN = variable price? But it's for bumi only. confused.gif

What bank are you using? If maybank can only topup AS1M for non bumi.

QUOTE(heavensea @ Sep 20 2016, 12:10 PM)
what does it means by OTC?
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Over the counter.

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