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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V) VI, Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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post Oct 2 2016, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(OPT @ Oct 2 2016, 08:37 PM)
Keyword = slowdown = less time =not spending too much time 🙃
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OK, when I buy so long as not same time as u, will be ok. Big timer ! devil.gif
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post Oct 3 2016, 12:13 PM

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Will be interesting tomorrow to buy the AS1M. Busy day also as have to run to few banks.

AVFAN, for the expired CIMB Klibor, was it deposited to the CASA or we have to go to CIMB to dispose of the dough ? Mine still not deposited yet, maybe because of the holiday. Prefer it in the CASA so that I can just IBFT it out over few days. biggrin.gif

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post Oct 3 2016, 12:26 PM

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When surfing Fund Supermart, saw the definition of HNWI. Maybe this is M'sia definition of HNWI ?

PRE-QUALIFICATION DECLARATION
In accordance with the Guidelines on Unlisted Capital Market Products under the Lodge and Launch Framework ("LOLA"), only a "sophisticated investor" may invest in a wholesale fund. A "sophisticated investor", as defined in Capital Markets and Services Act 2007, refers to at least one of the following:

High net worth individual
An individual, whose total net personal assets, or total net joint assets with his or her spouse, exceed RM3 million or its equivalent in foreign currencies, excluding the value of the individual's primary residence; or
An individual, who has a gross annual income exceeding RM300,000 or its equivalent in foreign currencies per annum in the preceding 12 months; or
An individual, who, jointly with his or her spouse, has a gross annual income exceeding RM400,000 or its equivalent in foreign currencies per annum in the preceding twelve months.



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post Oct 3 2016, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 3 2016, 03:38 PM)
seems like these is the definition HNWI for Malaysia.

very detail which include annual income level. normally just assets only  innocent.gif

TS should post this info on first page  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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You have not seen this in the FundSupermart.com before ?

The RM3 mil is still better than those USD definition of 1 mil USD which can be RM4.1 mil. devil.gif

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post Oct 3 2016, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 3 2016, 04:02 PM)
well I'm not buying wholesale fund, so I have not cross the info before  dry.gif

those buying wholesale fund sure will know the definitions  smile.gif
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When I was checking for funds, it showed up and have to click "Understood" before the site showed me the fund info.

QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Oct 3 2016, 04:06 PM)
Hhnnngg property at 07.... Haha
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cry.gif Those years, did not buy any as I was out of the country. cry.gif
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post Oct 3 2016, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 3 2016, 06:44 PM)
2014

3,739 unitholders,
5,859,361,145 units

http://www.asnb.com.my/pdf/PRODUK/ASW/ASW2020_12112014.pdf
2013

3,515 unitsholders,  
5,433,734,038 units

http://www.asnb.com.my/pdf/PRODUK/ASW/ASW2020_131022d.pdf
only can find this 2 years only  sweat.gif
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TQ !

Interesting data. I know where I belong once my target accumulation is reached. biggrin.gif

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post Oct 3 2016, 09:27 PM

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Earlier I said the online application for AS1M subscription in CIMB was not approved. Today the status was changed to Approved. So now all 3 application for FP approved. But with the "bad" experience of buying ASM, will just use it for play play only. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 3 2016, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Oct 3 2016, 09:31 PM)
I bet in next year ASM, AS1M & ASW annual reports, the >500,001 unit holder top HNWI will each increase by at least 1. You know who is that guy lah! Ha.
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Still behind you know who lah. devil.gif Who is also trying to find out how many people is in the same league as him. devil.gif
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post Oct 4 2016, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Oct 3 2016, 08:16 PM)
Many thanks. I have also tried to get the data online. Why is ASNB not showing the past annual reports now?

The updated data is here.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry81953641

Some surprises.
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Just saw the data. So your kawan has increased over the years ? brows.gif
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post Oct 4 2016, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Oct 4 2016, 08:41 AM)
The recent chit chat on HNWI, VHNWI and UHNWI prompted the top group comparison in ASM & AS1M.

Good wishful target to pursuit!
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While I was looking at the charts, u have posted the above ! icon_rolleyes.gif

I don't think my data will show up next year. Current thinking is not to park so much this year. Once my target reached, will stop buying the FP. My allocation is still FD much higher than this FP fund.

Anyway today hopefully can get higher amt of AS1M ! rclxm9.gif
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post Oct 4 2016, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Oct 4 2016, 08:50 AM)
Mind sharing why FD over this FP?

Inside secret? Ha.
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I still treat this FP as UT. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 4 2016, 06:49 PM

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Today got 64k top up on AS1M. Probably still lower than the 5 figures mentioned by others. Still lower than my target figure. Still keeping some dough in Affin. Unable to get any ASM and ASW today.


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post Oct 4 2016, 07:01 PM

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I said this morning that ASNB FP is UT. After that I know there will be comments on this.

Anyway each of us have different perspective on our funds.

I make allocations for FD, UT, shares (local/US) etc. So as u can see, I am still buying the FP units. Now my allocation for it is about the same as what I have for Public Mutual (got into Gold level). It still has risk same as even FD (if we put too much in one bank).

Just like I would not cancel all FD and put in FP funds. So not all eggs in one basket and have allocations for it.

That is all I want to say. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 4 2016, 07:02 PM)
see what I tell u previously..

50k per shot is doable on ex-dividend date..

but still lower than previously recorded. 80k per shot  flex.gif  rclxm9.gif
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Who is the record holder ? You ? hmm.gif

After the 50k, I asked the teller to try 30k, cannot get, lower until 10k then got it. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 4 2016, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(twinkle5129 @ Oct 4 2016, 07:05 PM)
For Affin Bank, no need all the above T & C. Somehow, majority will end up opening basic saving accounts as it's easier and safer with CASA transaction.
rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  Keep visiting until you reach your target.
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Tomorrow still going to Affin. Then MBB to terminate my GIA-i. May go to CIMB to try. Funds losing interest, idling ! cry.gif cry.gif
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post Oct 4 2016, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 4 2016, 07:07 PM)
not me. but u know who lor.

hint: previously very active. but now not so active. only recently started back "small" after seeing u here devil.gif
well I guess there's a lot of "demand" that's why, needed to reduced till 10k  cry.gif
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I have high regards for the person. Yes, I know who u are referring to. I don't think I will get near to the amt that he is holding in the FP funds.

The Affin teller was telling me that I was lucky to strike the 50k in one try. She even tell her colleagues about it.

However unable to get any units for ASM and ASW. Heard that difficult to get ASM. biggrin.gif

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post Oct 4 2016, 07:14 PM

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Oh one more thing. Need to try <50k in one shot.

Affin told me 50k or more need to fill up form to BNM !! Took additional 10 to 15 minutes for Affin girl to do it for the 50k shot. Additional paperwork and some online things to fill up. I have to sign the form as well !! doh.gif She apologized on this.

Not sure if other banks have this issue. hmm.gif

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post Oct 4 2016, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Oct 4 2016, 07:11 PM)
8 more trips like this they will add "1" to their above 500,001 unit holders!

Senang lah for you!

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I think those that said 5 figures, some of them got more than me ! I am just the one that remove the myth on the 5 figures. wink.gif Theirs is HIGH 5 figures ! thumbup.gif
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post Oct 4 2016, 08:24 PM

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Was in AmBank to withdraw FD. Was thinking of doing it there. However, their staff has just attended training on ASNB transaction, not even sure of the VP and FP funds. Instead tried to sell me other bond funds.

Their system NOT ready yet for ASNB transaction. smile.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 4 2016, 08:26 PM)
Did they mention when they can do asnb transaction??

Any timeline given??
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Did not ask. Trying to get out from the BM and officers asking me NOT to terminate my FD. Too many people looking at me. devil.gif

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