have to agree with gold.

For me if the new body is out, then its time to aim for those 2nd hand body from those users who wants to do the upgrade

that's what i'll do if i have the cash

20D/30D/350D/400D all same sensor size. I wouldn't agree if you say that using either with this 24-105mm lense would produce varying results...
As for producing better quality pictures out of the cam, yes this lens performs much better than the other non-L lenses. Thats why you pay so much for it. Also, the build quality is much better and its weather sealed so it feels much more solid in your hands. L lenses are less prone to fungus and mould as well but you can read all these from the Canon Malaysia website.....

I don;t think yours is considered a BIG jump. Since you've been using a APS-C cam for a while, its only natural to progress to a full frame. Nowadays, you find people who jump from a PnS to a 40D even. If you have the cash, the 5D is definetly a good investment as the skill of your photography improves, you do have to equip yourself with the better bodies($ no object). I'd wait for news of the EOS 5D replacement too....

yeah. well was thinking if i were to spend like RM 4k for a 40D body, i might as well hold back a little longer and go Full-frame.

But some they dun like FF..

If you wan to go really wide, mostly landscape if your focus, then FF is good. Crop sensor is very good for tele, especially when you are into birding!

up. 300mm become more than 400mm. some advantage there.

the thing is i plan to go wide-angle.

Why do ppl think that to go wide, you need a FF? you have EFS10-22 to fullfil crop sensor's wide angle demand

Like me.. From Sony W1 to 40D

Hopefully this unit would last long..

eh fren, I did not say I'm going to FF because I want to go wide.

sorry if my post mislead you.

my post meant that I intend to go MUCH wider later on with FF body.

anyway EF-S 10-22mm (either that or the Sigma 10-20) will reach my hands long before I even get a 5D or whatever replacement.

unfortunately can't mount EF-S lens on 5D.

so after get 5D, have to change to others like Sigma 12-24 - which is stilled wider than cropped sensor on 10-22.

This post has been edited by goldfries: Dec 3 2007, 10:15 AM

why not you get the sigma 12-24 1st? then when you switch to FF its still usable? you can save the cash by doing so

5D aint cheap man.

come to think of it yeah.

but 12-24 on cropped sensor is less wide than 10-22 mah. ok well, slightly less la but save $$$. damn, gotta think again.

He ain;t planning to get the 5D now anyways. He's targeting the mention of a replacement model for the 5D then only go for the cam with the hopes that the price would drop considerably by then....

think hard man

well, i went and look around for the angle of view of the 12-24mm F4.5-5.6 EX Aspherical DG / DG HSM:

Horizontal angle of view: 86°48' ~ 50°37'
Vertical Angle of view: 64°21' ~ 34°55'
Diagonal Angle of view: 97°17' ~ 59°11'

Here's the angle of view for EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM:

Horizontal angle of view: 97°14' ~ 54°34'
Vertical Angle of view: 74°06' ~ 37°52'
Diagonal Angle of view: 107°28' ~ 63°34

Go figure. I'd go for the 12-24, really not much difference for me

Another choice is the EF 14mm f/2.8L USM, but its super expensive... 8k i think o_O" it gives a Angle of view of 78°03' on the cropped sensor. On a full frame its 103°56'.

for image quality.. FF the better!

Are you sure? Dun forget some of the Mark series camera are 1.3x crop sensor also!

what zzloo said was right, FF definitely does give better image quality. But its not meant for everyone, you need cash ma hehe

Erh, is there anywhere i could study on those full frame Horizontal angle of view, Vertical Angle of view,Diagonal Angle of view? a website perhaps? sorry if this is OT. cause i would really want to know about it.

^http://www.sweeting.org/mark/lenses/canon.php

Oh. But i dont get what does Full Frame have to do with it? Sorry again.

thx for sharing.
pretty use full for me : D