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 LYN Official FIA F1 World Championship 2007 Thread, Another McLaren 1-2

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post May 17 2007, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(blah1134 @ May 17 2007, 09:17 PM)
knocking each other is hollywood, NOT RACING  rolleyes.gif
the 1st corner incident you saw last week is the effect of schumi's influence on massa laugh.gif after the awful malaysian gp massa have been "crying" like a lil kid asking for schumi's help. laugh.gif schumi and massa did have a discussion about it. you must have missed the news i guess. smile.gif

now massa & ferrari are whining about the points system aaaaagain...  yawn.gif
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racing incident can happen. Its avoidable but you cannot say there will be 100% no accidents in a race.

and which news said Massa went to Schumi for help? They have discussion only izzit? Doesn't mean that Massa went to Schumi...maybe Schumi went to talk to Massa? rolleyes.gif after all, Schumi is now an advisor or something for Ferrari isn't it?
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Klien blow engine on 1st lap out laugh.gif wat a short day
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QUOTE(ericjeff @ May 18 2007, 10:32 PM)
why the F1 are going to reduce power and so on years after years. it's not the tradition of F1 already. HP has been lower, noise is lower, rpm is lower, wat else to be lower?

tickets?

F1 will going to be not exciting as before i think if it keep lower down everything
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why you worry? These cars are just as quick anyways tongue.gif about 1 second slower than 2004 cars only...but that was compared to the F2004 rite? Which totally dominated the whole season and made things "uninteresting" rolleyes.gif

ah, I know...maybe its not interesting coz Michael isn't around anymore laugh.gif

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 19 2007, 04:51 PM)
No, the cars are definately MUCH more slower. And the V6 + the 10,000RPM limit will slow that to a point where even US CART and INDY series will be faster. C'mon man, use your brain. 19,000rpm vs 10,000 rpm. Which will give out more power on low end torque? And the 10,000 will be hitting the redline midway down the straight!
No way jose.

And about Max and Bernie, they really need to get out, fast. Get out before fans alienate this series.
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Wait a minute there brother. First off, you're saying as though these engines are already made, implemented and tested in current F1 cars. Well, I'm not sure about that because I only see words, but nowhere in my post I was referring to the speculated 2011 rule. I was actually referring to CURRENT (2007) cars compared to year 2004 cars. To prove my point...in Melbourne GP...the current F1 record is made by Michael with the F2004 and he did a 1.24.215. I think its the record during the race...not sure. Kimi this year got pole, fastest during race, and win in Melbourne but only with a fastest lap of 1:25.235 (on lap 41 of 58). Button apparently did a 1.25.229 for qualifying in 2006. So, that proves my point that "current F1 cars are only about 1 second slower than 2004 cars". smile.gif Precisely 1 second...and 200 of a second difference laugh.gif Sorry if my post confused you.

If you need more details on the 2011 "green engine" rule speculation...
QUOTE(Radical New Engine Rules Proposed For 2011)
If adopted, radical new engine regulations could be set to change the face of Formula 1 from 2011 according to a document outlining the FIA's proposals for the future of the sport which have been sent to all current F1 manufacturers, the latest issue of F1 Racing magazine (on sale from Tuesday) reveals.

As previously suggested by the FIA, the new rules, if adopted, would dramatically change the way the sport approaches engine technology and will rely heavily on renewable sources of energy to power F1.

The proposals outline potential regulations for 2011-2014 that have been designed with the FIA's president Max Mosley's stated long-term aims in mind - namely to reduce costs and make F1 more environmentally friendly and road relevant.

It was sent to the manufacturers by Mosley and former BMW CEO Burkhard Goschel, the chairman of the Formula One Manufacturers' Advisory Commission, and was drawn up by the governing body's technical consultants Tony Purnell and Peter Wright.

The proposals were sent to the manufacturers, and not the teams' management, directly as they mainly concern powertrain (engine) regulations.

And these proposals include a turbo-compounded 2.2-litre V6 engine formula, with the power units to run on bio-fuel rather than the current unleaded fuel.

The engines would produce around 770bhp (including a kinetic energy recovery system) with the maximum revs limited to 10,000rpm.

Engines would be required to last five grands prix, as opposed to the two currently, with the fuel savings thanks to the lower revs expected to be about 30 per cent.

Further mooted proposals include cars to be fitted with traction control, four-wheel drive and a 13-second-per-lap, driver controlled, power-boost function in a bid to aid overtaking.

The document also states that all development that cannot be classified as powertrain development - for example aerodynamics - should be "severely constrained".

In addition to all current F1 manufacturers, the document was sent to both Ford and Volkswagen-Audi, who may join the sport in the future.

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That's what I'm trying to say...even with the rules on engine limitation were "covered" by aerodynamics, suspension etc. It results in the same excitement as in previous seasons don't they? laugh.gif To be honest, if the rules stay...not much fun also. Just that this drastic move to limit F1 engine RPM by half is very...ya know. rolleyes.gif

1 second is considered slow you say? Means you dun like F1 already? Coz they ARE doing 1 second slower NOW laugh.gif I don't care what kind of speed they're posting up now really. As long as there is no domination in the sport and like you said "ta pau" the Championship mid season...
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Australia GP at stakes...
QUOTE(Night GP or no GP for Australia)
Organisers of the Australian Grand Prix have been told to stage a night race next year or forego a contract extension after the event in 2010.

The Adelaide newspaper Sunday Mail will on Sunday quote F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone as warning that only a floodlit race held after 9pm at Albert Park next March may be enough to satisfy the sport's officialdom.

"Unless they (organisers) can come up with something that's going to satisfy us I'm pretty sure we wouldn't be able to continue there," he said, not long after inking a deal with Singapore for the first ever night race in 2008.

The news is just the latest instalment in the flagging fortunes of the Melbourne race, which has suffered growing losses and declining crowd numbers and local sponsorship in recent years.

Ecclestone said GP boss Ron Walker knows about his demands for a night race. 

"Ron is not stupid and he knows exactly what is at stake," the 76-year-old Briton said, although an insider at the Australian Grand Prix Corporation warned that it is unlikely to happen.

"To have Formula One cars hooning around Albert Park at 9pm won't go down well with the locals and it's a family event, so afternoon is obviously the ideal time," the unnamed insider said.

A Victorian government spokesman, however, insisted: "We will be seeking to keep the event in Melbourne."

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yeah, agreed...really can't think of any possible way development on gearbox or aerodynamics can make up for the lack of power for 2011. That kinetic recovery system sounds interesting though rolleyes.gif
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what if...it rains as well? whistling.gif

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again? He crashed during practice? Wait a minute...I thought they were practicing in a different track?
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crash! boom! bang! whistling.gif
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found this pic regarding the CDG wing. Some of you might have seen a pic of the CDG wing in the newspaper sometime back when it was first proposed. Basically its a 2 wing design...the pic shows more details of how the downforce works smile.gif


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QUOTE(TOYO @ May 25 2007, 04:44 PM)
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another redbull special paintjob at monaco...
if i'm not mistaken,they runing starwars last season rite?
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wat da...are those faces of their fans? blink.gif


Montoya sympathises with Alonso - "I never felt good at McLaren"
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McLaren refugee Juan Pablo Montoya says he can understand if world champion Fernando Alonso is struggling to fit in at Ron Dennis' team.

The Colombian winner of seven Grand Prix, scored mostly for Williams, was considered one of very best drivers until a stint at McLaren sent him running for cover in NASCAR.

In the Spanish newspaper El Mundo, Montoya - who was paired at McLaren with Kimi Raikkonen until mid last year - compared his star-crossed McLaren tenure with Alonso's current struggle alongside rookie team-mate Lewis Hamilton.

"I can see that Alonso is very uncomfortable with Hamilton, especially with respect to Hamilton. 
It is just like what happened to me," he said.

The 31-year-old said he felt comfortable and competitive at Williams, "but I never felt good at McLaren.
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 25 2007, 11:24 PM)
"Comfortable and competitive at Williams"
So why did he leave in the first place?
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money? rolleyes.gif
same reason why Alonso left Renault for McLaren wasn't it?
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well, first of all...I wasn't putting any statement. My post had questionmarks tongue.gif
I just thought that Alonso is making more in McLaren coz I heard last time Alonso didn't like Kimi making more money than him...about 6 times I heard blink.gif god knows where that news came from already whistling.gif
btw, how you know Alonso is making less in McLaren?

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 26 2007, 01:18 AM)
In F1 Magazine there is a list of how much an F1 driver earns. He earned 4M less at McLaren than he did at Renault
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if compared to Kimi...how much difference is there? I mean about that making 6X more than Alonso thing sweat.gif
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Raikkonen smacked the wall in Q2? shocking.gif

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Hamilton is just...nuts. Luckily McLaren is reliable this season...he's so agressive with the car. I think much more than Alonso. I don't see Alonso's car bouncing that much at the swimming pool corner, but Hamilton's car was bouncing just about everywhere blink.gif
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laugh.gif complain to wrong person
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I wonder what happened to Massa...nowhere near the pace of the McLarens in Monaco after being untouchable in Spain
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saving up the engine for next race? rolleyes.gif

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