QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Apr 8 2007, 11:03 PM)
Well u can continue to test your luck Added on April 8, 2007, 11:09 pmLOL linkin dont need to step as low as these guys
u know u're better than that
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LYN Official FIA F1 World Championship 2007 Thread, Another McLaren 1-2
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Apr 8 2007, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Apr 8 2007, 11:03 PM) Well u can continue to test your luck Added on April 8, 2007, 11:09 pmLOL linkin dont need to step as low as these guys u know u're better than that This post has been edited by verx: Apr 8 2007, 11:09 PM |
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Apr 8 2007, 11:17 PM
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Well i have a name for Alonso myself: Fingerboy
Watch out for the Fingerboy and Hamsta combination coming ur way!! They are gonna bring McLaren back to where they belong: at the top!!! |
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Apr 9 2007, 01:52 AM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Apr 8 2007, 11:55 PM) More like the FIA helped them to be dominant. And to label them legendary is abit premature. The Schumi era is still too recent and before that Ferrari were nowhere to be seen anyway. Maybe if u meant the Ferrari brand is legendary then i would agree with u. |
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Apr 9 2007, 12:52 PM
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Apr 9 2007, 01:23 PM
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Apr 9 2007, 02:24 PM
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Apr 9 2007, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Apr 9 2007, 02:31 PM) yea, renault make out d champ...n he showed gratefulness by moving... It's perfectly fine to move to another team provided u do it profesionally. Without Alonso Renault wouldn't have won those championships. And he didn't go behind Flavio's back and signed a pre contract 2 years before his contract with Renault ended. He told Flavio he wanted a new challenge and McLaren obviously wanted a new driver knowing that Kimi would leave.but i know if i mentioned this, u would same this d case for msc too... |
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Apr 11 2007, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE(edison92133 @ Apr 11 2007, 08:00 PM) problems in mclaren LOL Are those writers Ferrari fans or something http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...411093545.shtml A fuss about nothing? Germany wants own anthem for McLaren wins http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...411104838.shtml A battle ahead within McLaren Praise for Fernando Alonso 1st of all the British anthem has always been used when McLaren wins. Their centre is in Woking, ENGLAND And seriously they got to try better if they think McLaren will fall for all that nonsense. Kimi and Massa are more likely to be at each other's throats than Alonso and Hamilton |
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Apr 12 2007, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(Hornet @ Apr 11 2007, 10:08 PM) Actually, a ferrari fan couldn't care less what anthem they wants to play for McLaren. I obviously said that in jest...(see my rolleyes smiley there Merc holds 40%. The majority of the rest belongs to Ron and co. Fair enough if they wants to plan London's song. What does ferrari have to do with Bild anyway. not that anyone takes them seriously (or so I heard among the tifosi) I'm not trying to stir up anything. I know a rubbish report when i see one |
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Apr 17 2007, 05:30 PM
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May 10 2007, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(evoHahn @ May 10 2007, 02:14 PM) well i beg to differ, the main culprit is the rear wing and additional winglets just like in the article quoted by virgil. You see, a F1 car left a turbulence or dirty air at the rear of the car. As a result, the following cars' aerodynamic setup is compromised. F1 cars have always left turbulent air at their wake. The problem now is that F1 cars rely too much on aerodynamic grip that when there is no air going through the wings to generate downforce the car literally flies off the track. Removing winglets won't change much imo. |
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May 10 2007, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(blah1134 @ May 10 2007, 05:51 PM) this is all because of FIA's own doing ... of finding ways to slow F1 cars ... now they face such problem. You read my mind! let them have slicks again ... let them build cars that almost touch the ground again .... let them reach 400kmph on the straights ... aHaHhAhAha. F1 is too safe nowadays IMHO. But I wouldn't want the cars too low for safety reasons. Slicks is the main thing i want back. More mechanical grip should compensate the lack of aerodynamic efficiency. At least with TC gone there would be more overtaking manouvres...from mistakes instead of course |
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May 15 2007, 02:07 PM
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Massa is more a driver than a racer. Put him on a clear piece of track and he'll fly. But if he is required to race it out with the others he tends to lose his focus.
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May 15 2007, 04:46 PM
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1st of all nobody is blaming anybody. 2nd of all Alonso was clearly in front by half a car's length but Massa had the inside line. Alonso could have given more space and Massa had enough space actually to avoid contact but it would have jeopardised his race. They made contact and it's just a racing incident. Nothing more to it. Let's look forward to Monaco instead.
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May 16 2007, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(adrian0229 @ May 16 2007, 11:20 AM) actly y renault so slow ya?izit bcoz of the setting?engine?car chassis? or tyre (chg from michelin to bridgestone)? Definitely not the engine...It's more of a combination of different factors...the aerodynamics, change of tyres, motivation factors due to the loss of Alonso..I don't think u can actually pin it on one exact reason as to why they are struggling. |
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May 17 2007, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(Hornet @ May 17 2007, 12:23 AM) The direction Alonso was going is too deep into turn 1. Massa is in between Alonso car and the curb, where has he left to go? As for Alonso, he could have take the inside of turn 2 right? Why have to go so deep into turn 1 knowing that there is a car there, for god sake. Alonso direction was not parallel to the racing line. Massa had the racing line and has every right to keep it. Why are we still arguing about this? Alonso felt clearly that he had given enough space. Massa HAD enough space. But he chose not to let go of his position. End of story. Here are pics that proves that there was enough spaceAlonso touches and swerve left probably in his attempt to avoid contact, but it was a little too late. If Alonso car was push that far off track by the contact alone, Massa's suspension would have been broken to bits. What Alonso did there, perhaps save both cars. I would say good reaction there. It's just a pure racing incident that even Alonso himself refuse to be dragged into blaming Massa. He said that in the post race conference. He repeatedly said that he only says that there was a high chance both car will damage, and that the press keeps wanting to drag him into blaming Massa which he will not. Even Haug said it was a racing incident. ![]() ![]() It's not like Alonso squeezed him onto the grass. Massa could have used the curb and both of them could have gotten through without touching each other. But of course that meant Massa letting Alonso pass him which he wasn't about to do. |
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May 17 2007, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(Hornet @ May 17 2007, 12:49 PM) Turn 2 turn 2 and turn 2 So now u're assuming? F1 cars go on curbs all the time...it's not like they lose total grip and fly off the track. If that was the case we would have seen far more accidents.Turn 2 is a left hander, if you see the tires marks, massa is going in parallel with the racing line. Going on the curbs means that massa will loose his grip and risk spinning 2. into mr alfonso car anyway. QUOTE 1. Why did Alonso feel the need to go further into turn one when they are both approaching turn 2? He thought he was half a car length ahead which is why he didn't wait till turn 2. It's difficult to know where Massa was exactly and he thought Massa would give in which he didn't.QUOTE 2. Had Alonso kept his line and take the inside of turn 2, don't you think Alonso actually stand a chance to stay ahead of Massa? (He was ahead of massa at that point, taking the inside of turn 2 gives him further advantage, and may allow him to take the line into turn 3) QUOTE 3. Had Alonso been in Massa place, do you think Alonso would slow down and let Massa go? No. I don't expect him to slow down. But i wouldn't expect him to knock Massa either.QUOTE 4. As Hamilton pointed out, Alonso almost collided with him when he was rushing to joint back in track, do you think that move was done with safety in mind for Alonso's part? Alonso was at fault here. He obviously didn't want to lose too many places. But the initial incident wasn't his fault in the 1st palce which is what we are talking about here.QUOTE 5. Do you think then, that both Massa and Alonso are driving unnecessarily dangerously or they are merely just racing? I think they were racing. But you have to admit Massa could have done better. Alonso was right when he said that the incident could have easily caused both of them to be bundled out.QUOTE I agree. And not once did i say Massa was at fault. But alot of u have been quick to accuse Alonso and i just wanted to clear that up. |
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QUOTE(young_soul @ May 27 2007, 10:13 PM) Hamilton is just...nuts. Luckily McLaren is reliable this season...he's so agressive with the car. I think much more than Alonso. I don't see Alonso's car bouncing that much at the swimming pool corner, but Hamilton's car was bouncing just about everywhere He's still young and he obviously likes to push the car right on the edge. Alonso showed his experience today...pushing just when he needed too. Hamilton can learn a few things from Alonso and when he does, he will be a champion one day |
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