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AVFAN
post Jul 7 2016, 02:48 PM

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I hope there will be another wave of USD/MYR 4.4x.


i think 4.4 has a higher chance of happening than 3.8 in the next 18 months.

.. brexit longer term effects
.. persistent weak oil price amid continued oversupply
.. weak china, usa economies
.. currency wars continue
.. usd remains the top currency
.. lackluster local gdp with no major engines but stuck in energy-resources-money sucking @#$% politics
.. lots of debt, more required to keep status quo of "the way things are"
.. many happy with low rm, not complaining

but... most likely it will hang around 4.1x by year end and 4.2x by end 2017.

just my views.

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post Jul 7 2016, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(ninjawin @ Jul 7 2016, 02:49 PM)
Nope. I dont think Banks can afford to cut anymore rates. Look at the FD promos..

Rephrase: Banks in Malaysia only
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can you explain a bit why fd promos determine bank int rates?

if gdp is too low, bnm need to loosen to stimulate the economy, cut opr, can the banks keep high rates fd? what about lending rates then?
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post Jul 8 2016, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(ninjawin @ Jul 8 2016, 01:10 AM)
Bank FD promos doing as high as above 4.4% while the rates are getting more attractive. This means that banks are having issues getting cash(liquidity) depositors. Meanwhile bank are giving out majority home loan at 4.45% ??  These are not the effective rates of course but it seems that banks are operating perhaps in very very thin margin or no margin. This is why home loan have very high rejection rates.

Yes.. bank can reduce interest rates to stir economy. The last time. BNM only dared to reduce the SRR instead of OPR. Cutting down interest rates will have huge effect of bank's profitability. A few banks are already retreching. This is why a few banks already increased their BR/BLR on their own. Not to mention NPL is increasing in Malaysia at around 2%.

1mdb default is also another issue. Since this company's debt is guaranteed by gov , borrowing cost by our gov may go up due to credit ratings.

Just my opinion.
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does that mean bnm can cut whatever it wants but the banks can simply ignore it?
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post Jul 8 2016, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(ninjawin @ Jul 8 2016, 11:36 AM)
i don't think so.. a lot of loans still tied wif old BLR.. It will be interesting to see BNM reducing interest rates...it's like using steroid. Short term benefits and long effects.
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well, i am not so sure you are right.

if bnm cut rates, there are consequences on bonds, fx, swap rates, reserves, etc.

it is not possible normal banks can continue to do their own thing while major changes happen as a result of central bank action.


i'm not a banker and not a serious borrower, so i don't really know.

we need a knowledgeable banker here to answer this. anyone?

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post Jul 8 2016, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 8 2016, 12:19 PM)
Cost of funding for banks will lower across when OPR being cut.

Banks can issue bond at lower rate to get funding, instead of getting through FD promo.

So FD rate or FD promo rate will also go down when OPR is lowered.
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tq for response.

can u confirm banks NEED to follow bnm if rate cut?

ninja seem to think otherwise - banks can ignore bnm, keep same own lending/fd rates.

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post Jul 8 2016, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jul 8 2016, 01:33 PM)
If BNM cut OPR n Bank maintain current FD promo, v can expect Banks PBT to drop
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banks can go bankrupt for all sorts of reasons. but that is not the question.

the question is whether banks need to follow bnm rate cuts or hikes by banking rules.

or they can stick to their own lending and deposit rates?

answer seems very hard to find! biggrin.gif

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post Jul 8 2016, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 8 2016, 02:27 PM)
There is no fixed rule that banks need to follow BNM rates, as long as not exceeding the ceiling rate, last time, yes, there is fixed BLR.

But when cost of funding is lowered across, if a bank is still stick to higher lending rate and higher deposit rate, then you will see depositors flock to the bank, while borrowers shy away from the particular bank, which in the end of the day, bank lose out in term of revenue, and higher cost of funding, which make the bank non-profitable.

Unless there is only one banks which is monopoly the market, then may be the bank can stick to own lending and deposit rate at their wish and ignore the

It is just like ordinary business competition out there,, if you do not follow the "market price, you may loose out business.
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Ok.

That means banks will follow market forces.

Which in turn means banks will invariably lower rates if bnm cut rates.

And raise rates when bnm hike rates.

Internal control, layoffs, profits, survival, their own biz.

Except when gomen bail out a bankrupt one.

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post Jul 9 2016, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(ninjawin @ Jul 9 2016, 09:00 AM)
there are things that Banks can do however it will still be effected by major changes in OPR. Some banks have adjusted interest rates on their own a few times this year http://www.baserate.co/public-bank-hong-le...interest-rates/
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ok, all clear now.
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post Jul 13 2016, 06:30 PM

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this part... your boss now has the official ammo to give you <3% annual increment. laugh.gif


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Lower oil costs and subdued global price pressures enabled the central bank to cut its inflation forecast for this year to 2 percent to 3 percent from 2.5 percent to 3.5 percent, it said. Consumer prices rose 2 percent in May from a year ago.


Malaysia Unexpectedly Cuts Rate to Shield Growth as Risks Mount
Inflation forecast lowered to 2 percent to 3 percent
Economy set to grow at slowest pace in seven years in 2016
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...-as-risks-mount

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post Jul 18 2016, 10:50 AM

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interesting read:


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Malaysia’s $30 Billion Pension Fund Goes Long as Rate-Cut Hedge

Malaysia’s interest-rate cut is a “double-edged sword” as the fund’s existing portfolio is “in the money,” while new investments will probably be in instruments with lower returns, the CEO said. KWAP will be buying longer-dated bonds because “we see room for a further interest rate cut,” he said.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...-rate-cut-hedge



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post Jul 18 2016, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jul 18 2016, 10:53 AM)
Can consider to 'short' as and when opportunity arises
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3.90, can buy usd.

the situation is still the same - global economic slowdown, weak oil prices.

add local low growth, int rate cut, incr debt, lost billions...

yes, some foreign hot money into bonds and stocks... they can leave quickly too.

so, u decide rm will appr or depr from 3.9x! tongue.gif

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post Jul 19 2016, 06:24 PM

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and which pariah bank, which bomoh analyst said 3.80 coming? tongue.gif

4.1 more likely...
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post Jul 20 2016, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jul 20 2016, 11:11 AM)
U trust them?
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no, i pay more attention to foreign reports.
just having fund how they pluck X or Y from the air when everything else point otherwise.
cari makan, someone said... OK. biggrin.gif


QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jul 20 2016, 11:11 AM)
Touch 4.036x
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4.1x will come... maybe next month.
immediate drivers will be oil price, boj action on july 29, direction of hot money flow.

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post Jul 20 2016, 05:22 PM

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this development will not help investor confidence, will not help the rm:


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U.S. Seeks to Seize $1 Billion Assets Tied to 1MDB, NYT Says
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...mdb-wsj-reports

U.S. Targets $1 Billion in Assets in Malaysian Embezzlement Case
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/21/world/as...ets-seized.html

U.S. Set to Seize $1 Billion in Assets Tied to Malaysian Fund 1MDB
http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-readies-pu...1mdb-1468987220


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post Jul 20 2016, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jul 20 2016, 06:12 PM)
Sold some @ 4.04 to lock-in profits
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i hope u still have some more!
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post Jul 20 2016, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jul 20 2016, 06:17 PM)
Sold 30% n keep remaining 70% for rides
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watch crude tonight, 10.30pm.

if eia reports small draw or stock buildup, crude price will dive - rm will weaken further.
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post Jul 20 2016, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jul 20 2016, 11:03 PM)
still at 4.03 MYR hmm.gif

btw related news

Oil turns positive as US crude inventories fall by 2.3M barrels: EIA
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/19/crude-oil-f...piles-fall.html
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first part ok. second part is not:

U.S. commercial crude stockpiles fell by 2.3 million barrels to a total of 519.5 million barrels, the Energy Information Administration reported.

Meanwhile, gasoline stocks rose by 911,000 barrels, compared with the Reuters poll forecast for no change. Distillate stockpiles, which include diesel and heating oil, fell by 214,000 barrels, versus expectations for a 600,000-barrel increase, the EIA data showed.

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post Jul 21 2016, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jul 21 2016, 06:35 AM)
Gonna head north or south?
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n or s is confusing.

some people say north when they mean rm getting a bigger no., depreciating.

i don't see it going higher than 4.05 so soon.
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post Jul 21 2016, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(ninjawin @ Jul 21 2016, 10:42 AM)
Touched 4.048 on 15m chart today. Dont buy/sell on what u believe in. Buy/sell on what the chart tells you
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mind to share what is the chart telling u now?
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post Jul 21 2016, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(ninjawin @ Jul 21 2016, 11:01 AM)
actually already touched 4.05 just now.. i think if it opens at 4.068 , the chances of going up is higher. there may also be slight retracement as got some resistance there
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thanks for sharing.

but based on that, should one buy or sell usd now?


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