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prophetjul
post Dec 6 2016, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 6 2016, 07:51 AM)
The exporter share price rise more than 30% over the last 2~3 year time frame

Ok, I get the logic message is
people invested in local exporter in RM that gain 30% in RM cannot cover inflation,
while the 15% gain in RM by converting to SGD can cover.  biggrin.gif

Whatever RM is bad, invested in gold in RM also cannot cover inflation.
Everything must convert.... bruce.gif  biggrin.gif

The 15% gain, the net gain is 9%, as there is a yield spread of 3.5% pa. of RM
Same with exporter share price, gain, net gain achieved is 23% due to opportunity yield.
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Well........gold was MYR1150 in 2002

It's MYR5400 now.........................
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post Dec 6 2016, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Dec 6 2016, 03:29 PM)
I just read through and browsed across,... okay,...

Anybody wants to learn Aussie dividend shares ????  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

AUD is set to move soon,...
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Yeah........but Aus interest rates are so so low........ sad.gif
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post Dec 6 2016, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 6 2016, 04:41 PM)
can eat 22% less then. laugh.gif
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i am outta 22%........... hmm.gif
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post Dec 6 2016, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Dec 6 2016, 05:43 PM)
Since bank interest rates are low, the elderly folks, and the yield investors would be flocking to yield counters, right ?

Secondly, I suspect interest rates are going to rise soon,...  and with A-REIT prices still at a low since 2 months ago, it would be good to flow along with the A-REITs and yield counters as they improve,..

..opinions,..bros,...
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i thought when interest rates rise, REITs tend to tank?
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post Dec 7 2016, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Dec 6 2016, 06:20 PM)
Yes, bro,... BUT,.. it also depends on the quality of the REIT. Err,.. I will look at the following metrics of the REIT. I am applying across the principles from the SGX,.. First, assuming the rate rise starts to take place from early next year, then,...

1) The Interest Coverage Ratio of the REIT, the higher the figure, the better, in terms of x times of the interest to be paid out.

2) The Weighted Average Debt Ratio (WADR) of the REIT.

3) The Weighted Average Debt-to-Expiry (WADE), the longer from now, the better it will be.

If the above three metrics are acceptable, then the REIT would be able to withstand an interest rate rise environment.

I saw many of the Aussie REITs and yield counters have at least two of the above metrics being acceptable. The ones who don't have been bought over by the ones that do.

What have you heard ?
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i have not waded in Aus REITS yet. A mile too far.

Howevre, i have started to look into mortgage REITs in US.
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post Dec 7 2016, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Dec 7 2016, 09:00 AM)
QUOTE(prophetjul @ Dec 7 2016, 08:51 AM)

i have not waded in Aus REITS yet. A mile too far.
http://www.fraserslogisticstrust.com/

Pure-Play Australian Logistics and Industrial REIT listed in Singapore.
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Thanks
Would prefer to go into AUD based securities just to hedge a bit in the AUD since my children are over there. smile.gif

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post Dec 7 2016, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Dec 7 2016, 09:22 AM)


Yes, investing via the recently-listed Frasers L&I Trust is a proxy,... however, if we are into, say the dividends of the AUD, we will be subjected to the company's exchange rate demand, ie,... Frasers will 'makan' pips from us. Because the basic denomination of the underlying mechanism is in the AUD. Frasers will 'hammer' us when they convert back into the SGD for us to collect the divvy,...

Err,... can we avoid this pips loss ?

Added : Especially since the SGD is such a strong currency, IF the SGD should appreciate against the AUD, then we will 'lose more',... this is the PROBLEM of investing in SG REITs. The SGD is strong, reducing the amount collected from overseas assets.

We must do our best to mitigate this forex risk when investing into SG REITs and SG yield stocks,...
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Why not then invest directly into Aus REITS?

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post Dec 7 2016, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Dec 7 2016, 09:48 AM)
YES, learn the procedures of the ATO and the ASIC and follow them carefully, open brokerage and savings accounts inside Aus, learn the the counters of the ASX, etc,...
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Unfortunately time does not allow me to venture into Aus securities yet.

Msia, Sg , U.S.....enough for now! smile.gif
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post Dec 7 2016, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Dec 7 2016, 10:02 AM)
If you have a residential address in any part of Aus, then you can start,.. the mkt is improving after years of being in the doldrums,...  smile.gif AUD is getting stronger,...the world is changing after DT came onboard,...
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Maybe Aus will become the next Tiger in the Asean region! smile.gif
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post Dec 7 2016, 04:01 PM

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AS a matter of interest, how much of your net worth is denominated in foreign currencies?

i am only up to 25%

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