Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Bump Topic Topic Closed RSS Feed
11 Pages « < 4 5 6 7 8 > » Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 USD/MYR v4

views
     
Hansel
post Nov 22 2016, 05:25 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
9,353 posts

Joined: Aug 2010
QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 22 2016, 04:32 PM)
Ringgit's tumble seen causing Malaysia c.bank to hold key rate
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/r...k-hold-key-rate
*
QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 22 2016, 04:45 PM)
Ringgit accepted in Mekah and Madinah, Tabung Haji clarifies
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/r...-haji-clarifies

Despite crisis, not all is doom n gloom for MYR
*
So,.. the RM should strengthen tomorrow, right ?
Hansel
post Nov 22 2016, 08:15 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
9,353 posts

Joined: Aug 2010
QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 22 2016, 07:54 PM)
Nope
It shld stay at current level as everyone is awaiting for announcement from BNM
*
Right,.. OPR Ann't is tomorrow evening,... thumbsup.gif

So, RM shld strengthen on Thursday, right ?? smile.gif
Hansel
post Nov 23 2016, 08:53 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
9,353 posts

Joined: Aug 2010
QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 22 2016, 08:57 PM)
Tomorrow around 3pm can know bnm announcement blush.gif
*
Probably immediately after ann't, RM will spike up a bit,... then after that,...don't know,...
Hansel
post Nov 23 2016, 09:11 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
9,353 posts

Joined: Aug 2010
QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 23 2016, 08:58 AM)
Unlikely to strengthen unless BNM increase int rate
*
I hoped we are wrong ! Prb is I am of the same opinion.
Hansel
post Nov 23 2016, 02:24 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
9,353 posts

Joined: Aug 2010
Never mind,... after OPR announced at 3 pm,... MYR will revert to 4.4000 against USD biggrin.gif
Hansel
post Nov 23 2016, 03:23 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
9,353 posts

Joined: Aug 2010
QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 23 2016, 03:19 PM)
BNM maintained OPR @ 3%
*
smile.gif Tq Will,...
Hansel
post Nov 24 2016, 08:56 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
9,353 posts

Joined: Aug 2010
QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 24 2016, 07:59 AM)
Dollar Rises to Decade High on Fed Bets as Bonds Slip With Gold
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...s-bonds-retreat
*
Maybe, after Fed hike, things will be more stable.
Hansel
post Nov 24 2016, 06:21 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
9,353 posts

Joined: Aug 2010
QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 24 2016, 06:01 PM)
BRO, I CAUGHT IT FIRST ! NOT CNBC ! IT'S IN ONE OF THE THREADS IN THIS FORUM ![SIZE=7]

smile.gif
Hansel
post Nov 25 2016, 06:13 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
9,353 posts

Joined: Aug 2010
QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 24 2016, 10:56 PM)
What happen if BNM can prove how it intervene without using reserves?
*
QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 24 2016, 11:59 PM)
Still waiting for bnm answer on how they managed to intervene without using reserves blush.gif
*
I put fwd the hypothesis that BNM was was actually doing 'hostage-taking' and 'indirect pegging' instead of intervening. Somehow, the person who spoke to the press calls it intervening, whether he knows the true meaning of the word or not.

And they used the deputy to give statements to the press, so that the main man can override him later if necessary.

Let's hope BNM gives a clarification to our questions. If they don't, then it's even worse,...another ambiguity from this gov't,...
Hansel
post Nov 25 2016, 10:14 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
9,353 posts

Joined: Aug 2010
QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 25 2016, 08:13 AM)
I dun think BNM officials will clarify
Thus, the suspense continues...
*
Then the theory of ambiguity continues, and the lie-upon-lie predicament shows its ugly head again.
Hansel
post Nov 25 2016, 06:42 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
9,353 posts

Joined: Aug 2010
QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 25 2016, 06:29 PM)
i think this is what's going on:

xe.com is OFFSHORE rate, with NDF's which BNM is trying to "kill" - hence u still the erratic movements.
http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=USD&to=MYR

bloomberg follows ONSHORE rates:
https://www.bloomberg.com/markets/currencies/asia-pacific

BNM rates are ONSHORE, middle rates as of noon and 5pm:
http://www.bnm.gov.my/?tpl=exchangerates
a good way is to look at the money changer rates whenever u pass by one.
*
What abt this one below from Yahoo Finance ? It tells the movement too.

http://finance.yahoo.com/chart/MYR%3DX#eyJ...jp0cnVlfQ%3D%3D

Is this onshore or NDF rate ?
Hansel
post Nov 25 2016, 07:26 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
9,353 posts

Joined: Aug 2010
QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 25 2016, 06:42 PM)
What abt this one below from Yahoo Finance ? It tells the movement too.

http://finance.yahoo.com/chart/MYR%3DX#eyJ...jp0cnVlfQ%3D%3D

Is this onshore or NDF rate ?
*
I saw in the Bloomberg Exchanger, USDMYR = 4.4583.

In the Yahoo Graph, USDMYR = 4.4533.

The spread is so small. And the Offshore rate is lower than the Onshore rate ? rclxub.gif

1) Why is the spread so small ?
2) How can the Offshore be lower than the Onshore ?
Hansel
post Nov 25 2016, 07:29 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
9,353 posts

Joined: Aug 2010
QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 25 2016, 06:50 PM)
offshore, same as xe.com.
*
I saw in the Bloomberg Exchanger, USDMYR = 4.4583.

In the Yahoo Graph, USDMYR = 4.4533.

The spread is so small. And the Offshore rate is lower than the Onshore rate ? rclxub.gif

1) Why is the spread so small ?
2) How can the Offshore be lower than the Onshore ?

Hansel
post Nov 29 2016, 01:55 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
9,353 posts

Joined: Aug 2010
QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 29 2016, 01:53 PM)
what I mean is to keep MYR at 4.45/4.46 range..

did u see the BNM website rate.. very stable at 4.46.. even money changer rate also the same.. where got logic can hold like that..

bnm is interfering (donno how they do that without touching foreign reserved)  confused.gif
*
............ Money coming from somewhere to defend the MYR,.. maybe from somebody's pocket,...

Will it turn out that no country in the world will exchange the RM for their currency ???
Hansel
post Nov 29 2016, 06:49 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
9,353 posts

Joined: Aug 2010
QUOTE(limeuu @ Nov 29 2016, 06:31 PM)
this is long term hedging NOT currency trading...ie hedging for future use....specifically for children's education...

at that time, there is no local FC accounts, but it is still relatively easy to open accounts overseas...i opened accounts in the usual suspect countries oz, nz when visiting, and have a uk account from the time i was working there....and manage them online remotely...

the cheapest way to transfer is by FC bank drafts....just change at the banks and then post them to the banks overseas to bank in...

if you look at currency charts, there were long periods when aud was below 2, and nzd 1.6....and pounds below 5....whenever i felt it's worth it, and have spare money, just convert, buy a draft and send it over....

in later years, i use dci to convert.....

as late as last 2 years, i had need for a substantial sum of aud, and dci most of it, at still good (compared to now) rates of below 3....

of course i over hedged, so after use for education, etc i still have deposits in these countries, which now becomes valuable...lol

in addition, i have bonds in usd, bought when the usd was about 3.0 to 3.2....
*
thumbsup.gif

As for myself,.. I started around 2004, with Oz and Sgp. Yes, currency exchange was really favourable then,.. made a lot from the exchange rate if we are to convert back to RM today. Back then, the interest rates for Oz and NZ were really fantastic, I recalled,... can get up to 10%+ in NZ...

NO more today ! Today, if wishes to earn in the AUD, must go after dividend shares and REITs.

The SGD has lower interest rates, but the REIT mkt was building up then, and of course, not to mention,... the exchange rate has been strongly in our favour too today. My SGD investments in Sgp are still continuing today.

I have since expanded to North America too.

The foreign currencies outside are self-sustaining, ie they 'regenerate themselves' !

For myself, I don't really think too much abt the gains I will make if I am to exchange the funds back to the MYR. I have no interest to exchange the funds back to the MYR. What I needed to do is to be able to make enough in my investment overseas to beat the overseas inflation, and to buy houses and motor vehicles there, hence, to be able to live there.

No point changing back the money to MYR.
Hansel
post Nov 29 2016, 07:39 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
9,353 posts

Joined: Aug 2010
QUOTE(langstrasse @ Nov 29 2016, 07:05 PM)
A curious newbie here, how do you manage the taxation part of this diversification strategy, i.e. are you required to pay any taxes in the foreign countries where you're vested ?

Also, could you please elaborate on the "self-sustaining" part about foreign currencies ?
*
This is a very good question, langtrasse,....

As an international private investor, on top of knowing the instruments well, the investor must also understand and be able to abide by the taxation rules of the country that he/she invests in. Otherwise, the investors may run into trouble with the tax authorities of that country, or at the other end of the line, pays more tax than is necessary, hence reducing his gains.

Yes, I do know about taxation rules, eg double taxation treaties, 183-days, etc,...

Self-sustaining means I do not need to convert my RMs into the currency of a country anymore in order to acquire the instruments there, for the income that I make from the instruments that I am holding there is sufficient to continue my investment cycles. Of curse, if I wish to port more of my money out, I can, provided the gov't does not stop money transfers.

Hoped the above is helpful.
Hansel
post Nov 30 2016, 12:41 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
9,353 posts

Joined: Aug 2010
QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 29 2016, 08:27 PM)
Well you're on the right track..
Since u already start way earlier, u have some advantage..
Well done rclxms.gif
*
Well, bro,... I continue to do my best here to help forummers do the right thing and the more defensive thing,... not keeping everything to myself,...
Dong all these without hoping for anything in return,... we all don't know each other personally,....
Hansel
post Nov 30 2016, 12:51 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
9,353 posts

Joined: Aug 2010
QUOTE(aspartame @ Nov 30 2016, 11:29 AM)
So, with 70% still in RM and 30% overseas, I am curious whether you hope RM strengthen or weaken? biggrin.gif  Do you hope for RM to strengthen to convert more but your existing foreign portfolio paper gains shrink in RM terms OR you prefer RM to weaken further and never look back so that your 30% foreign investment will have substantial paper gain and possibly permanent forex gain if RM never appreciate again? tongue.gif
*
I don't know what is the % I have overseas, I never counted,... and the figures are very dynamic, money comes in here, then goes out there, etc,... For myself, I am now hoping for the RM to strengthen, so that it will give me a chance to exit. I continue to earn the RM, and since I have no more instalments to pay in the country, I will convert whatever that I can into foreign currencies in order to plough them into investments, and buying hard properties.

I am not thinking of bringing back my foreign currencies, such funds are to be parked in the respective countries for me to use. What I have to chase in my investments is : To earn FASTER than the inflation rate of the country that I invest into.

By the way, just like limeuu, I have also 'parked' my family overseas, and my children, though young... are already studying in one of the foreign countries in which I have investments in.

I won't be making foreign currencies yet with 'those investments'. I'll have to continue making/earning foreign currencies using their instruments. I take this as an event in life, the ablity to continue life in a foreign country WITH the family ! Investment income supporting my family is, I believe, put to very good use here.
Hansel
post Nov 30 2016, 12:53 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
9,353 posts

Joined: Aug 2010
QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 30 2016, 12:47 PM)
thumbsup.gif  thumbsup.gif  thumbsup.gif

sharing is caring  biggrin.gif
*
Okay, bro,.... smile.gif
Hansel
post Nov 30 2016, 02:52 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
9,353 posts

Joined: Aug 2010
QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 30 2016, 01:05 PM)
i would think those with significant amounts abroad have been or are doing it with a conscious plan - the money is mainly planned for outside use.

only greedy politicians/cronies will be doing it big time to profit in RM.

there are small fx punters, of course.
*
Hi bro,... don't abt others,... but seeing the way they do thing in Msia, and after having experienced many years of being in a foreign culture, I gather that living in certain other countries have less cons compared to living in Msia today. All countries have cons, and all countries have pros.

We just need to choose which have more pros and less cons.

Those politicians can't live overseas,.. because they're nobody there. We'll step all over them if they try to be arrogant in a foreign land,... everybody must follow rules there lar, even in Singapore. If I am to follow the financial rules of investng and funds transfers, I would expect the other 'dato'' to follow too lar,.. if he doesn't and someone gets to know abt it,... then we need to urge the MAS to take the appropriate actions.

11 Pages « < 4 5 6 7 8 > » Top
Topic ClosedOptions
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0929sec    0.41    7 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 4th December 2025 - 07:04 PM