Same for me, Serena is just too big for me as I only need 7 seats function occasionally so not that practical for me to drive out daily with the big butt..

I would guess this car should have better handling as compare to Avanza as lower floor to ground clearance, think around 170cm as compare to Avanza which is much higher.. beside rear wheel drive when driving in high speed, feel very unsafe as compare to front wheel drive I think even though rear wheel drive does have a bigger turning ratio.

They will only allow for test drive by 26 August onward. so hopefully can have a feel of how is the driving experience by then as if not good, still can cancel order

Sorry, the turning radius should be smaller for RWD than FWD.. anyway, really enjoying the turning fun with Avanza and hopefully the Sienta will not have too much of different as can see its turning radius is actually slightly bigger 5.7m versus avanza 4.7m.. 1m, is it significant differences?

Potong car will never in my list Anyway, think most of the Malaysian will at least own once the Potong car and also most of us will just feel that the car is not that good.. personally, I do own a Wira as my first car for 8 years but when thought back, Wira is not bad perhaps because of the Mitsub stuff inside but the car was not really being maintain well by Potong service center due to their poorly train technician.. well compare again with Toyota, they are slightly better as compare to Potong..

I never own other Potong car other than the old Mitsub Wira so cant really comment much on Esoklah but did found some issue face by some other owner beside saw a Persorry broke down in Taiwan when on the way to airport so dont really have good comment about Potong car as mostly just bad user experience..

Anyway, buying a car always depending on luck. My cousin who use to own a toyota altis was having lots of issues which Toyota cant really solve the problem till he gave out and sell the car for a Honda.. Somehow from my ex-colleague who also having bad luck having a Honda which giving her all the headache and inconvenient .. so difficult to comment much as guess those quality sometime just cant really be predict much but mostly just based on probability which you will ended with a poor quality car more on perhaps Potong than maybe other japanese car.. To me sometime, Potong car quality is even better than Korean car.. having bad experience with my Kia Sportage, Hyundai Atos and Accent previously so no more Kimchi..

After having 1 Potong, 3 Kimchi, 2 P2 and 1 Toyota, one which lasting and satisfy is Toyota and this is why now I am still stick to Toyota for my family car and another P2 as my 2nd car

Just to share my experience and no offense

I am only getting 2.65% from MBB with 60K and 5yrs repayment. You loan for 80K rite?

I am not based on my 30 yrs of experience.. in actual fact as what I had mention, "From my experience" Kimchi car is not as reliable as the Potong car as I think the car base design, engine, gearbox are not in proper design.. but perhaps they had change and many people who like the Kimchi design would probably wont expect to use the car for more than 3-5yrs perhaps.. My Atos gearbox die 1 month after the warranty period is over, Sportage which is less than 3 years old car water masak half way without any reason why.. The Accent, wind screen crack by itself, gearbox die within the warranty period.. at the moment I sell my car, all wiring go crazy and meter not running, no head lamp, signal but just give the car to the 2nd hand car dealer.. Potong Wira better as gearbox not fully dead but 2nd gear got problem when switching, cooling coil change 3 times within 8 yrs period, anyway change because of engine oil started to leak even multiple time of repair..

P2, VV got no issue at all except when close to 9yrs, aircond not cool. Avanza has change alternator(due to water splash on it) and heard can repair outside but just change it in Toyota SC, condenser once as hit by little tiny stone..other than this.. no issue.. in fact still good and running but just thinking of upgrade.. beside thinking whether or not to postpone getting the Sienta until year end for some better deal..

Well.. a car with full of accessories and unused features to me is useless.. a car which give me a peace of mind without giving me problem or inconvenient is one that I want..

Car is to give me the convenient and safety for my family when traveling and other than this, just optional or secondary..

No offense.. just as long as a car suit your needs, you will happy to buy it..

If you are not interested on Sienta, not sure why you want to post any bad comment about this car here? Dont like it, just ignored it and walk away loh..

Perhaps if you want to talk about other car than Sienta in this post, maybe you should just talk about it on other post..

Good to have the forumer to talk about the relevant topic in the right post ..

Just my two cents, no offence

Toyota do have a 1.8kCC Sienta version specifically for Taiwan market which they expect to replace Toyota Wish in Taiwan.. most of the Taiwan cabs are all Wish.. so since Wish stop production so they expect it will be replace by Sienta 1.8 by then

Today will have a FB live launch but still not sure when can I test drive the car.. cause Toyota FB mention need to wait till 26 Aug for test drive.. seen like the car delivery is rather slow..

Right it is my own money and for sure you can afford to buy a luxury car with maybe 10 airbag if you can afford.. I am average people who can afford to have those features so will just live within my means

Thanks and guess do not see if there is a point to argue on this.. most important you spend those money and you are happy will do

Thanks

Toyota Borneo is bringing in the Indonesia make Sienta and expect to launch next month

No, just interested to find out more about this car, so I did join the Sienta Taiwan, Singapore and HK ground..

In fact some differences for the Sienta launch in different country.. i.e Taiwan version is something like Japanese version with 1.8 engine as they want to tackle for the Wish replacement market and lots of bodykits in HK and Taiwan.. doubt that those accessories and kits can be use in the Indonesia version..

The Indonesia Sienta will only be sold to Asean countries, i.e Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore(by Borneo Motor) and of coz Indonesia

Went test drive in Puchong dealer, not bad and not bumpy like my avanza the MID is interesting which also able to show the current speed that also show in the analog display next to it..
Anyway, handling is also good but feel break is tight and acceleration pedal also not the same as avanza as push a bit then seen like accelerate a lot..the AVN when in reverse will show line but bit funny when seeing the line like bending when car is sort of tilted.. maybe this is the same for all Toyota car with ANV+reverse camera

Not sure but those doors are pull by a steel string which is similar to those used in bucycle break and it will be expose at the track when the doors are in close position. It will lock automatically when reach the sensor point but not sure how reliable is it..

Yes the one inside the IOI business center opposite the IOI mall.. the SA told me they only got 20 units to sell for this year.. as Indo factory can't cook with the demand in Indonesia so limited units will be available for other Asean countries..

The got a gray color unit available for test drive and and so far different handling as compare to my avanza but much stable and not bumpy.. you can feel the car is heavy.. the MID is good..

Sofa is so so but soft lah.. not sure whether the fabric will last but acceptable loh.. and you will found that at the driver seat side the carpet is very soft... feel like inside is empty.. the SA confirm that the mid row seat need to be back to its ori position before you are able to fold it completely and if half fold must put into seat upright position before able to fold it..there is a string to pull from the 3rd row also so the 3rd row seat people no need the mid row people help as to fold the seat

backside of the seat is very soft and empty just like my avanza.. but perhaps to make it lighter.. and the rear door cover is very soft also.. material use not even have any chipboard it it..but not a big problem.. just not too sure whether will those material last for 10 years??

May I know the trade in promote for Avanza car owner? Is it a standard promotion?

I got an offer of 1K discount, full tank petrol, standard toyota umbrella, keychain, 1st aid kit, battery charging cable. The SA also give me RM100 as I need to buy a smarttag and pass him the receipt.. but think will just ask him to give me RM100 will do..

He told me by 1 Sep, he will know when can I get the car, I booked the car since end July so mostly will get it by early or mid Sep.

In regards to the AVN, additional 2K sound not worth it.. but will not change the AVX until later time cause afraid those accessories shop people might not familiar with the new car and might spoiled something..so better wait till later before doing any change. Will first remove the hand break interlock first before adding other stuff.. if able to retain the same player for awhile before upgrade to have amp, woofer, and roof mounted display.

Anyone tested whether the AVX or AVN able to display Chinese wording?? most of my MP3 and movie are all with Chinese wording..

How about the support of Chinese wording in the AVX or AVN player?

Thanks and so it is still subject to their topmark review but based price are set.. actually not much advantage as what they consider this as an offer.

As what I know, Wish will be discontinue and currently Toyota will replace Wish with Sienta. In Taiwan, they do have a special Sienta edition with 1.8 engine as a replacement model for the market there as they are lots of Wish taxi there..