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 All new Toyota Sienta, Surprising package

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Jason
post Aug 18 2016, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(calk @ Aug 17 2016, 11:01 AM)
Well.. a car with full of accessories and unused features to me is useless.. a car which give me a peace of mind without giving me problem or inconvenient is one that I want..

Car is to give me the convenient and safety for my family when traveling and other than this, just optional or secondary..

No offense.. just as long as a car suit your needs, you will happy to buy it..

If you are not interested on Sienta, not sure why you want to post any bad comment about this car here? Dont like it, just ignored it and walk away loh..
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So you're the type of buyer UMW is looking for. 6 airbags? Don't need it cause it's an unused feature. Useless. Most people go through their entire ownership without ever using it. Hell in most minor fender benders it doesn't even deploy! So useless!

I've only heard of such buyer. First time meeting one, albeit electronically.

And before your rebuttal, you're entitled to your opinion cause it's your money. I just find it amusing.
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post Aug 18 2016, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Aug 18 2016, 11:15 AM)
So you're the type of buyer UMW is looking for. 6 airbags? Don't need it cause it's an unused feature. Useless. Most people go through their entire ownership without ever using it. Hell in most minor fender benders it doesn't even deploy! So useless!

I've only heard of such buyer. First time meeting one, albeit electronically.

And before your rebuttal, you're entitled to your opinion cause it's your money. I just find it amusing.
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Right it is my own money and for sure you can afford to buy a luxury car with maybe 10 airbag if you can afford.. I am average people who can afford to have those features so will just live within my means

Thanks and guess do not see if there is a point to argue on this.. most important you spend those money and you are happy will do

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post Aug 18 2016, 11:34 AM

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post Aug 18 2016, 11:50 AM

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This matches Alza in almost all dimensions other than length....it's apparently shorter than Alza by 35mm!

Alza: 4270mm
SIenta: 4235mm
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post Aug 18 2016, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(yattnana @ Aug 18 2016, 11:50 AM)
This matches Alza in almost all dimensions other than length....it's apparently shorter than Alza by 35mm!

Alza: 4270mm
SIenta: 4235mm
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funny though since it seems more spacious especially in the third row compared to Alza
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post Aug 18 2016, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Aug 18 2016, 03:18 AM)
Why? I've never owned a car with more than a 1.4 (except my first car, which was a 1.9, but that engine was lethargic). Unless you want to go speeding, 1.5 will be fine. Our Kangoo had a 1.4, no turbo, 75 hp. It was fine, even with 7 passengers and some luggage. Could it be faster? Sure. But for normal traffic? It's a people mover, not a racing car. The Sienta has 107 hp. It'll be fine. My current 1.4 has 140 hp, now I need to be gentle with the accelerator to not look like an idiot all the time laugh.gif
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He's not saying the engine power not enough. What he is saying is the car is too expensive considering the engine size.

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post Aug 18 2016, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(kluseng @ Aug 18 2016, 02:28 PM)
He's not saying the engine power not enough. What he is saying is the car is too expensive considering the engine size.
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Yes, but he has to consider the purpose and what you get for it.

The Alza has a useless third row, the Touran an even more useless third row. The Grand Livina is a "third world" car, for less demanding customers, a station wagon with seats in the boot. The Avanza is simply a "third world" car that doesn't even ride well. The only alternative I see is the Exora, but unless you really need the space, city dwellers are probably better off with the Sienta due to it's Tardis-iness.

The Sienta is designed for more demanding customers, and extremely practical. It is ideal for elderly passengers, and no other car near it's price tag has sliding doors.

The engine is acceptable for the purpose.

The only thing lacking is airbags. It should have 6 or 7, in other countries it does, and other brands like Proton can offer it for half the price tag. Airbags aren't expensive, my car has 8 instead of the standard 6 and it was like RM 800 for that. 3 airbags is pathetic in 2016... my previous car was a 2002 C segment aeroback... almost entry level specs, 75 hp, manual. Not an expensive car. It had 6 airbags. Now that is overseas, but come one... 14 years later, for a more expensive car, 3 just isn't enough. Especially considering that it is a family car.
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Aug 18 2016, 04:48 PM)
Yes, but he has to consider the purpose and what you get for it.

The Alza has a useless third row, the Touran an even more useless third row. The Grand Livina is a "third world" car, for less demanding customers, a station wagon with seats in the boot. The Avanza is simply a "third world" car that doesn't even ride well. The only alternative I see is the Exora, but unless you really need the space, city dwellers are probably better off with the Sienta due to it's Tardis-iness.

The Sienta is designed for more demanding customers, and extremely practical. It is ideal for elderly passengers, and no other car near it's price tag has sliding doors.

The engine is acceptable for the purpose.

The only thing lacking is airbags. It should have 6 or 7, in other countries it does, and other brands like Proton can offer it for half the price tag. Airbags aren't expensive, my car has 8 instead of the standard 6 and it was like RM 800 for that. 3 airbags is pathetic in 2016... my previous car was a 2002 C segment aeroback... almost entry level specs, 75 hp, manual. Not an expensive car. It had 6 airbags. Now that is overseas, but come one... 14 years later, for a more expensive car, 3 just isn't enough. Especially considering that it is a family car.
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that is problem with UMW, when they can make more money, why not ?
when buyer over support, this will happen ....
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post Aug 19 2016, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(jagadis @ Aug 17 2016, 03:08 PM)
this thing is hot in singapore. Looks like car made by bandai or BBurago
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Is the Sg sienta have the same specs as Indo?
Same dashboard layout?
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post Aug 19 2016, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(farghmee @ Aug 19 2016, 08:09 AM)
Is the Sg sienta have the same specs as Indo?
Same dashboard layout?
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Nope, SG Sienta is JDM. and gear shifters are on the dashboard instead of the floorboard.
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QUOTE(boyz @ Aug 19 2016, 09:02 AM)
Nope, SG Sienta is JDM. and gear shifters are on the dashboard instead of the floorboard.
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I guess toyota/daihatsu of indon wants to fully utilize floor mounted gear?

Jdm sienta looks nicer with dash mounted gear n footbrake, giving the perception of "lapang" n ease of use.
Indo sienta got blower, that is more crucial amenity.
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post Aug 19 2016, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(boyz @ Aug 19 2016, 09:02 AM)
Nope, SG Sienta is JDM. and gear shifters are on the dashboard instead of the floorboard.
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Toyota Borneo is bringing in the Indonesia make Sienta and expect to launch next month

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post Aug 19 2016, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(calk @ Aug 19 2016, 09:21 AM)
Toyota Borneo is bringing in the Indonesia make Sienta and expect to launch next month
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calk from Borneo?
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post Aug 19 2016, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(boyz @ Aug 19 2016, 09:32 AM)
calk from Borneo?
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No, just interested to find out more about this car, so I did join the Sienta Taiwan, Singapore and HK ground..

In fact some differences for the Sienta launch in different country.. i.e Taiwan version is something like Japanese version with 1.8 engine as they want to tackle for the Wish replacement market and lots of bodykits in HK and Taiwan.. doubt that those accessories and kits can be use in the Indonesia version..

The Indonesia Sienta will only be sold to Asean countries, i.e Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore(by Borneo Motor) and of coz Indonesia
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QUOTE(calk @ Aug 19 2016, 09:43 AM)
No, just interested to find out more about this car, so I did join the Sienta Taiwan, Singapore and HK ground..

In fact some differences for the Sienta launch in different country.. i.e Taiwan version is something like Japanese version with 1.8 engine as they want to tackle for the Wish replacement market and lots of bodykits in HK and Taiwan.. doubt that those accessories and kits can be use in the Indonesia version..

The Indonesia Sienta will only be sold to Asean countries, i.e Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore(by Borneo Motor) and of coz Indonesia
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I think the Indon version only differs from the Jap version in interior especially the gearlevel. As Indon needs to accomodate a manual gearbox for the country, it Toyota ID moves the gearlevel to traditional position, as well as the handbrake (JP version comes with foot operated handbrake, much like Alza). Other than that no big difference. Indon version does have +- gear shift as compare to the JP version (none).

And the best looking bodykits are from Modellista smile.gif brows.gif

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Those body kits look exaggerated.. hmm.gif

By the way, Thailand just launched their Sienta as well and it has leather seat options!
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post Aug 19 2016, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(amdxp @ Aug 19 2016, 09:56 AM)
I think the Indon version only differs from the Jap version in interior especially the gearlevel.  As Indon needs to accomodate a manual gearbox for the country, it Toyota ID moves the gearlevel to traditional position, as well as the handbrake (JP version comes with foot operated handbrake, much like Alza).  Other than that no big difference.  Indon version does have +- gear shift as compare to the JP version (none).

And the best looking bodykits are from Modellista smile.gif  brows.gif

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With this kind of bodykit, no more sad face.. More to angry face..

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post Aug 19 2016, 02:07 PM

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Went test drive in Puchong dealer, not bad and not bumpy like my avanza the MID is interesting which also able to show the current speed that also show in the analog display next to it..
Anyway, handling is also good but feel break is tight and acceleration pedal also not the same as avanza as push a bit then seen like accelerate a lot..the AVN when in reverse will show line but bit funny when seeing the line like bending when car is sort of tilted.. maybe this is the same for all Toyota car with ANV+reverse camera
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QUOTE(calk @ Aug 19 2016, 02:07 PM)
Went test drive in Puchong dealer, not bad and not bumpy like my avanza the MID is interesting which also able to show the current speed that also show in the analog display next to it..
Anyway, handling is also good but feel break is tight and acceleration pedal also not the same as avanza as push a bit then seen like accelerate a lot..the AVN when in reverse will show line but bit funny when seeing the line like bending when car is sort of tilted.. maybe this is the same for all Toyota car with ANV+reverse camera
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So fast and so good you already test drive it!!! drool.gif
The sliding door ok or not in terms of durable? And the seat quality and space ok?

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