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 NVIDIA GeForce Community V16 (welcum pascal), ALL HAIL NEW PASCAL KING GTX1080 out now

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Someonesim
post Jul 9 2016, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Jul 9 2016, 10:37 PM)
With this move by zotac, all used 970 hv to sell under 1k. Warranty or not
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I sold mine yesterday, if late one day maybe price will be lower sweat.gif

QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jul 9 2016, 10:37 PM)
oo no wonder, as gemfive listed and someonesim stated, discount 12%, is up to RM 350 laugh.gif
yaya meanwhile gtx 1060 icon_idea.gif
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The code until 18th July, so if 1060 listed on time then good.

QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 9 2016, 10:38 PM)
Then my GTX 960 how la? biggrin.gif Sell off at RM 600 also donno anyone take or not.
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Better sell now then laugh.gif
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post Jul 9 2016, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 9 2016, 10:38 PM)
Then my GTX 960 how la? biggrin.gif Sell off at RM 600 also donno anyone take or not.
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doh.gif 400 sell me, i put it into my i5 750
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post Jul 9 2016, 10:57 PM

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My GTX760 even worst😭😭
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post Jul 9 2016, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Jul 9 2016, 10:42 PM)
I sold mine yesterday, if late one day maybe price will be lower  sweat.gif
The code until 18th July, so if 1060 listed on time then good.
Better sell now then  laugh.gif
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lucky haha. inb4 salty arguments in WTS threads.
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post Jul 9 2016, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(jonathan_k @ Jul 9 2016, 10:57 PM)
My GTX760 even worst😭😭
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tell me about it, plan to sell off my whole i5 3450/670 set to upgrade to i5 6400/1070 rig
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QUOTE(jonathan_k @ Jul 9 2016, 10:57 PM)
My GTX760 even worst😭😭
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but you should have used it for quite long already right? already worth the years of usage.
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off topic abit: how does the zotac 1070 2+3 years of warranty work?

i heard supplier MAY NOT honor the extended warranty depending on the damage.

otherwise, any recommendation on the best model of 1070 in terms of value/performance?
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QUOTE(jonathan_k @ Jul 9 2016, 10:57 PM)
My GTX760 even worst😭😭
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I'm look at the 660ti currently in my rig cry.gif
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post Jul 9 2016, 11:22 PM

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my GTX 960 and R9 390 are both victims of the new cards. biggrin.gif

R9 390 i can still keep for my PSU stress test, looks like GTX 960 also I keep la, for PSU stress test.
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post Jul 9 2016, 11:32 PM

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380 n 960 kesian owner this gpu.
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post Jul 9 2016, 11:43 PM

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Read that Nvidia decided no SLI for GTX 1060 to protect its GTX 1080. That's one shrewd business move.
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QUOTE(adilz @ Jul 9 2016, 11:43 PM)
Read that Nvidia decided no SLI for GTX 1060 to protect its GTX 1080. That's one shrewd business move.
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IMO SLI on mid range card are no good.

SLI or CF efficiency wasnt good, 2 card will never even close to get double on performance, not to mention memory capacity remain single card size. Only feasible for high-end, where single card cant satisfy performance.

Unless short on cash, get one card now and another card later. Still I would rather sold that one card and get higher end card. My 2 cents biggrin.gif

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Lotac 1060 so cute:
http://videocardz.com/62073/zotac-geforce-...d-mini-detailed

hnn Gainward notbad.jpg
http://videocardz.com/61982/gainward-and-g...series-pictured
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Those previous midrange cards, use in content server or HTPC rig la. Still useful and wont go to waste.

QUOTE(adilz @ Jul 9 2016, 11:43 PM)
Read that Nvidia decided no SLI for GTX 1060 to protect its GTX 1080. That's one shrewd business move.
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If you look from another angle, then 1060 is more powerful than previous x60 range, that Nvidia didnt bother removing the SLI fingers because two of those are not threat for the higher end ones. The cannibalization is more towards 1070 not 1080. If you say that no SLI fingers on 1060 is to protect the 1080, then it's implying that two 1060 is powerful enough to match a 1080 at a cheaper price. Does that mean that it's true that 1060 is half of 1080's price, making it RM1500? IF that's also what you're implying then RX480 is dead in the water, fish gone belly up.
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Jul 9 2016, 11:57 PM)
IMO SLI on mid range card are no good.

SLI or CF efficiency wasnt good, 2 card will never even close to get double on performance, not to mention memory capacity remain single card size. Only feasible for high-end, where single card cant satisfy performance.

Unless short on cash, get one card now and another card later. Still I would rather sold that one card and get higher end card. My 2 cents  biggrin.gif
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you forgot one: framepacing. Whether it is SLi or CFX, there will always be framepacing issues. I lived with it with my Tri-SLI Titan X, I learned to tolerate it but can never fully accept it. Some games implement better framepacing than others, when it's bad, it's reaaaaaaaaly bad. Pulsating framerate is not pretty.

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Earthquake-like fps on both SLI and CFX. Which is why single power card > two cards in SLI or CFX.

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post Jul 10 2016, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 9 2016, 11:59 PM)
Those previous midrange cards, use in content server or HTPC rig la. Still useful and wont go to waste.
If you look from another angle, then 1060 is more powerful than previous x60 range, that Nvidia didnt bother removing the SLI fingers because two of those are not threat for the higher end ones. The cannibalization is more towards 1070 not 1080. If you say that no SLI fingers on 1060 is to protect the 1080, then it's implying that two 1060 is powerful enough to match a 1080 at a cheaper price. Does that mean that it's true that 1060 is half of 1080's price, making it RM1500? IF that's also what you're implying then RX480 is dead in the water, fish gone belly up.
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Yeap, thats what i read on one the GTX 1060 article. The GTX 1060 SLI could have beaten GTX 1080 for less the price. Quote ftom PCWorld

"But more crucially, there aren’t any connectors for Nvidia’s fancy new SLI bridge on the GTX 1060. That probably has less to do with Nvidia’s tightening of the multi-GPU belt than sheer economics. Dual GTX 980s outpunch the $600-plus GeForce GTX 1080. If the $250 GTX 1060 indeed out performs the GTX 980, you’d be able to pick up a pair of them for just $500—instantly undercutting the GTX 1080’s market position despite the questionable future of multi-GPU support in games.

Here’s what Nvidia’s Bryan Del Rizzo said when I asked him about it:

“GTX 1060 delivers tremendous performance and power efficiency in its class.

However, SLI was created to build the world’s fastest gaming platforms, bar none – and squarely focused on enthusiast and hardcore gamers.

In fact, very few gamers build SLI machines out of mainstream GPUs.

With SLI we focused our efforts on creating the biggest and the best gaming PCs possible, using our high end enthusiast-class GPUs with our new high-bandwidth bridges.”
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 10 2016, 12:03 AM)
you forgot one: framepacing. Whether it is SLi or CFX, there will always be framepacing issues. I lived with it with my Tri-SLI Titan X, I learned to tolerate it but can never fully tolerate it. Some games implement better framepacing than others, when it's bad, it's reaaaaaaaaly bad. Pulsating framerate is not pretty.

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Earthquake-like fps on both SLI and CFX. Which is why single power card > two cards in SLI or CFX.
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Yeap, i lived with GTX 970 SLI too before, so yeah microstuttering exist, bad in some games, others barely noticable. Tolerable since i always have V-sync on too.

So far review on pascal sli showed a marked improvement on FCAT. At least 10-30ms, not as crazy as Maxwell 50+ ms. Here's GTA V FCAT on GTX 1070 SLI

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gefor..._review,12.html

I dont mind at all going for SLI if it's needed to push minimum fps above my target 60hz. I dont care much about average or max fps. As long as minimum above 60 fps, and cantiknya punya fcat, and i'll be happy. For that, i need another GTX 1080.


"However, SLI was created to build the world’s fastest gaming platforms, bar none – and squarely focused on enthusiast and hardcore gamers." Nvdia Bryan Del Rizzo

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Which is why I was amused when the AMD budget users I was conversing to are using no SLI as an excuse to trump their RX480 when they are less likely to CFX with their budget. Kinda finding excuse for excuse's sake. tongue.gif Anything to slight Nvidia I guess. *shrugs*
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 10 2016, 12:40 AM)
Which is why I was amused when the AMD budget users I was conversing to are using no SLI as an excuse to trump their RX480 when they are less likely to CFX with their budget. Kinda finding excuse for excuse's sake. tongue.gif Anything to slight Nvidia I guess. *shrugs*
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Well they may not hv the money now, but at least they hv an option to get CFX for cheap a few months or a year down the road when 2nd hand RX 480 price drops by half. 40% to 90% bump on performance (on games that scales) for another RM 600-RM 700 is gold for those on tight budget.

I guess GTX 1060 buyers have to be more firm about their upgrade plan. If they dont hv intention to go 1440p soon, than its okay. But if they do, then they have to stomach the discount selling off their GTX 1060 and then add back RM 2,000 to get GTX 1070, coz SLI is not an option for GTX 1060. I sold of my 6 months old GTX 970 SLI for almost RM1,200 discount, can feel the pain.

But i think GTX 1060 will do good business with PC makers.

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