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 NVIDIA GeForce Community V16 (welcum pascal), ALL HAIL NEW PASCAL KING GTX1080 out now

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post Jul 9 2016, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jul 9 2016, 09:55 PM)
lol what voucher you guys use ?
I go try use RAYA12 I only can get RM 1847.12 for palit gtx 1070 whistling.gif

just try for fun laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Lurker @ Jul 9 2016, 10:27 PM)
I didn't try..  I just simply minus rm350 from the srp
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Kasi up the heat!
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It's 12% discount up to RM350, so RM2099 - 12% = RM1847 is correct.
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post Jul 9 2016, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Jul 9 2016, 10:37 PM)
With this move by zotac, all used 970 hv to sell under 1k. Warranty or not
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I sold mine yesterday, if late one day maybe price will be lower sweat.gif

QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jul 9 2016, 10:37 PM)
oo no wonder, as gemfive listed and someonesim stated, discount 12%, is up to RM 350 laugh.gif
yaya meanwhile gtx 1060 icon_idea.gif
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The code until 18th July, so if 1060 listed on time then good.

QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 9 2016, 10:38 PM)
Then my GTX 960 how la? biggrin.gif Sell off at RM 600 also donno anyone take or not.
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Better sell now then laugh.gif
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post Jul 9 2016, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(jonathan_k @ Jul 9 2016, 10:57 PM)
My GTX760 even worst😭😭
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I'm look at the 660ti currently in my rig cry.gif
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QUOTE(adilz @ Jul 9 2016, 11:43 PM)
Read that Nvidia decided no SLI for GTX 1060 to protect its GTX 1080. That's one shrewd business move.
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IMO SLI on mid range card are no good.

SLI or CF efficiency wasnt good, 2 card will never even close to get double on performance, not to mention memory capacity remain single card size. Only feasible for high-end, where single card cant satisfy performance.

Unless short on cash, get one card now and another card later. Still I would rather sold that one card and get higher end card. My 2 cents biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 10 2016, 12:03 AM)
you forgot one: framepacing. Whether it is SLi or CFX, there will always be framepacing issues. I lived with it with my Tri-SLI Titan X, I learned to tolerate it but can never fully tolerate it. Some games implement better framepacing than others, when it's bad, it's reaaaaaaaaly bad. Pulsating framerate is not pretty.

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Earthquake-like fps on both SLI and CFX. Which is why single power card > two cards in SLI or CFX.
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holy crap sweat.gif

QUOTE(adilz @ Jul 10 2016, 01:02 AM)
Well they may not hv the money now,  but at least they hv an option to get CFX for cheap a few months or a year down the road when 2nd hand RX 480 price drops by half.  40% to 90% bump on performance (on games that scales)  for another RM 600-RM 700 is gold for those on tight budget.

I guess GTX 1060 buyers have to be more firm about their upgrade plan.  If they dont hv intention to go 1440p soon,  than its okay.  But if they do,  then they have to stomach the discount selling off their GTX 1060 and then add back RM 2,000 to get GTX 1070, coz SLI is not an option for GTX 1060. I sold of my 6 months old GTX 970 SLI for almost RM1,200 discount, can feel the pain.

But i think GTX 1060 will do good business with PC makers.
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I dont see why add an old gen card for 'some' performance boost, not too sure but I dont think price would drop 50% after one year.
I would rather sold it while price not too low and upgrade to new single card that could match dual SLI/CF or beat it.
You also need to sell TWO card during your next upgrade, but 2 gen behind card worth much less. You're suffer previous gen performance on the 2nd year as well.
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post Jul 10 2016, 04:17 AM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jul 10 2016, 03:46 AM)
have you?  rolleyes.gif
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well this is info according to what lowyat reported, below is the article i'm referring to
http://www.lowyat.net/2016/109080/nvidia-g...around-rm-1000/
gst... 1mdb.... brexit... currency exchange...  sad.gif
but in a nutshell as comparison
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cutesniper made another explanation for it  biggrin.gif
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Sure above 1K quite some. Always not work as per direct conversion. I wont be surprise if they price FE at 1.5K during launch, you know la typical cut throat price to early adopter sweat.gif
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QUOTE(letze @ Jul 10 2016, 09:37 PM)
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Promotion on Gigabyte GTX9xx
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All kind of tactic to clear stock now biggrin.gif RM100 steam wallet actually not bad, if can buy online with discount then even better tongue.gif

QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 10 2016, 10:01 PM)
I heard it starts from RM 1249. biggrin.gif Price varies depending on model, can be RM 13xx range. I think FE should be 1500 - 1600 range.

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If 12XX-13XX I guess it's good price.
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post Jul 11 2016, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 11 2016, 12:11 AM)
Wah you seem to be really annoyed by them. Is it on Facebook?
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Try go reddit and there's many fanboys there. I used to thought nVidia fanboys are bad, until I met blind red team supporter.

QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Jul 11 2016, 12:39 AM)
You mean RX480 performs around GTX970? 
Yes it doesn't not necessarily need to match GTX980, as long as it beats RX480 lol.
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I think 1060 almost guarantee to beat RX480. nVidia and AMD are smart to mark their card's price to match competitor's performance. Slightly expensive than RX480 but performance overcome it, force AMD to drop price for product launch not long ago and it sure looks good biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 11 2016, 02:12 AM)
But see how much hate Microsoft get for folks who refuses to update to Windows 10, not to mention how people hate Windows Store and its UWP component. I kept mentioning playing Killer Instinct but finding a local player who plays this game is like finding a diamond the size on Losmah's ring finger.
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I dont see how Win10 get so-much-hate. So far I'm perfectly happy with it, no crash/BSOD or whatever.

QUOTE(adilz @ Jul 11 2016, 04:25 AM)
Sabar sabar. You sure are mad at consoles, arent you? What to do, game developers also want to make money. Not many games left exclusive on certain platform, just like Gran Turismo for PS4 and Halo for Xbox. Now some go Android and Apple somemore (albeit totally different experience). The only thing I dont know is, do game developers develop their games for console first, and then port to PC, or develop for PC and then port to console, or do they say, okay, I'm developing a game, and I want to be on PC, Xbox and PS4, and develop concurrently?
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I think they focus more on console, then port to PC later ( which took time as not easier than consoles ). Quite rare to see a game support both console and PC while PC version isnt bad, not simple and lazy port.
Sometimes we hate consoles because when it's port to PC, either too buggy or they purposely cap the performance like 30fps doh.gif
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 11 2016, 08:37 AM)
I dont get it either. I need Windows 10 to run Killer Instinct, Quantum Break and Gears of War Ultimate Edition. And I use Nvidia cards. While these AMD fanboys champion DX12 and yet they dont even run DX12-related games, only citing "future-proofing" as their excuse. They still run CS:GO or DOTA or whatever simpler games that does not even need DX12 to run at all, nor are they graphics intensive. Go figure!  rclxub.gif

Are they waiting for the "magic DX12 driver" that's gonna turn their mediocre cards into 980Ti or Titan X, that finally allows them to play Rise of The Tomb Raider beyond 1080p at acceptable framerates in two to three years later? Since it's "future proof" and all. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(khelben @ Jul 11 2016, 10:22 AM)
From the leaks, in Ashes dx12, RX480 edges 1060 only just a little bit. I think nVidia's asynch emulation has a lot of merit.
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If I remember correctly, 1070 only lose a little over R9 Fury in DX12 games but lead a lot on DX11 games, while slightly cheaper than R9 Fury.
So I dont see how AMD's DX12 advancement future proofing their GPU, unless Vega have lots of surprise for us. We're still years before DX12 only games become mainstream, which by the time both team will have few newer generation cards biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(adilz @ Jul 11 2016, 12:08 PM)
Actually its not DX12, but specifically DX12 Async Compute feature. I guess this is going to be a familiar theme when it comes to games with Async Compute. AMD cards lagging far behind Nvidia cards in DX11, will make up ground when Async Compute is available.

AMD made a technological bet and its happens that their bet paid off. Async Compute was available with AMD GCN 1 cards back in 2011 when DX11 still reigns. Sure they put in the effort pushing DX12 to have Async Compute.

For Nvidia Pascal arch, I don't think Async Compute matter so much (still have contradicting articles wether Pascal truly support DX12 native Async Compute or using Nvidia own Async Compute implementation). Pascal cards is powerful enough to go through DX11 and DX12 regardless of Async Compte (though I personally believe based on benchmark I saw so far, Pascal does not support DX12 Asycn Compute because there no or little difference running DX11 or DX12).

I think impact of DX12 Async Compute feature is more pronounced on the older 28nm cards. With DX12 Async Compute, AMD older cards (the R9 290s, Furys) got something like a new lease of life, as their performance jumped significantly. Don't know if its a good thing for AMD, because it only means that users with their  older cards does not have to upgrade to to take advantage of DX12.

Whereas sadly, for Maxwell, they gain nothing with DX12 Async Compute implementation. Which could be good for Nvidia business and its means Maxwell users have to upgrade to Pascal (or not so good news, jump ship to AMD). Again this is all dependent on games. News on raise of tomb raider and highly anticipated upcoming Battlefield 1 supporting with Async Compute will shape the buyers decision once benchmark comes out. Example from the recently released patch for Raise of the Tomb Raider

"Patch Notes for Rise of the Tomb Raider:

- Adds DirectX12 Multi-GPU support. Many of you have requested this, so DirectX 12 now supports NVIDIA SLI and AMD CrossFireX configurations
- The benefits of DirectX 12 are still the same, but now you are less likely to be GPU bottlenecked and can reach higher framerates due to the improved CPU utilization DirectX 12 offers.
- Adds utilization of DirectX 12 Asynchronous Compute, on AMD GCN 1.1 GPUs and NVIDIA Pascal-based GPUs, for improved GPU performance." - Sadly no Maxwell

Read more at: http://gearnuke.com/new-rise-of-the-tomb-r...2-support-more/
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Hmm ya Async compute keep mentioned in DX12. From what I remember ( lazy to search and check fact ), Pascal implement nVidia's own solution to async compute, or at least the scheduling part, so it's improve a bit on async compute but not truly adopt.

EDIT: I'm glad I didn't go 980ti path biggrin.gif

QUOTE(richard912 @ Jul 11 2016, 12:12 PM)
This Dell OLED will need some serious GPU powah
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They have 5K display already isnt it. Let's see UHD ( 8K ) 120Hz display icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jul 11 2016, 10:16 PM)
For those who have Palit cards, don't SLI it unless you're willing to replace the cooler.

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Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/4r...slots_high_and/
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I ordered Palit's 1070 gamerock sweat.gif although I will not go SLI path but am on tiny case, sound card at bottom and with radiator near front panel rclxub.gif Thickness no issue as got up to 3 slot space, but I scared it's too tall and with PCI-E power connector on top sweat.gif Not sure will it fit hmm.gif

With 970 blower design
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QUOTE(Topet @ Jul 13 2016, 04:17 PM)
For its price damn good. Got some seller sells at rm2060 in garage sale.
Was looking for this until some forumer mention aboit gemfive raya12 voucher. Palit gamerock after voucher only rm1847. Pulled the trigger and its on its way already.
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They just send out ? It suppose to reach me today but I'm not at home.

QUOTE(svfn @ Jul 13 2016, 05:08 PM)
i guess what they mean is nvidia only focus the latest game optimizations for latest gen like Pascal, so they less focused on optimizations for previous gen, whereas amd GCN architecture can improve some of the older gen cards performance via drivers so they are not so left out. some people still on 280x see nice performance boost in DOOM vulkan for example, for a rather old card it's still cheaper and better than GTX 960 in many games. cant say the same for GTX 770.

multitasking? i think this is referring to CPU instead?
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What I read is, their card's FLOP performance are higher than nVidia's similar priced card. AMD's DX11 driver are bad, thus performance increase in DX12 are alot, when DX12 drive unlock the potentials. nVidia DX11 performance are optimize nicely already, thus no much room to improve in DX12/Vulcan.

QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 13 2016, 07:04 PM)
Yup, life is so simple. Got money? Buy the best you can afford and go enjoy your games. I also have many games to play. biggrin.gif
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Ya, that's the best recommendation.
When friend ask me to quote spec for new computer, basically I finish most h/w spec then throw the rest of the budget into graphic card.
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QUOTE(Topet @ Jul 13 2016, 08:36 PM)
They sent yesterday but not reach yet maybe tomorrow.
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Abit sad when I found out our 1070 Gamerock not PE one biggrin.gif PE OCed additional 1XX core and 2XX memory bye.gif but for the price I'm happy laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Topet @ Jul 13 2016, 08:49 PM)
Unfortunately they didn't bring the PE version...as you said for the price. Who cares right, can't wait...luckily i don't buy rx480...
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Hopefully can at least OC to PE's level, given that they comes with same cooler, should have certain level of OC capability. I only hopes the size could fit my tiny case.

If RX480 was nearer to US's pricing, I will consider it, but local pricing then big no no.
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QUOTE(Topet @ Jul 13 2016, 10:36 PM)
1.4k for rx480 and 1.8k for gtx1070...i don't think its really long just thicker at 2.5 slot it uses..
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2.5 slots I'm OK as my setup got 3 slots space. Length I think should be OK, I just scared height. The PCB and cooler are really tall, I'm quite sure it wont fit my puny case, as the PCI-E power facing top cry.gif
Is there L shape PCI-E power connector ?

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Jul 13 2016, 11:21 PM)
hi, may i know where to get 1070 @ RM1.8k? is it via gemfive? but that is limited only, already sold out...wondering if we can get it from a normal shop with such price...

thanks!
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Just try monitor on daily basis. Last time when I knew about this, sold out. Then check back one/two days later and restock biggrin.gif

QUOTE(x5_416 @ Jul 13 2016, 11:55 PM)
the promotion is until 18th july, i also quickly ordered one as soon i saw them restock...
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Oh yeah, after 18 July then newer coupon, either better or worse, or could be same. Gemfive IINM always have coupon code discount, fight Lazada !
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jul 14 2016, 01:48 PM)
that gpanel seems unnecessary. theres software like techpower up GPU-Z that does similar but on your monitor  bruce.gif
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Useful for those like to show off, case modder or hardcore fans biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(napster2142 @ Jul 14 2016, 04:09 PM)
Hi bro,

Wanna ask since your specs are same with, do u play GTA V? mind to share FPS?

Thinking of my cpu bottleneck the gpu laugh.gif

Anyway I'm using Strix OC GTX1070, boost to 20xxmhz, i5 3750k @ 4.2ghz but got FPS around 30-40 @ 1440p, old game shouldn't it be more FPS? whistling.gif
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Cant say old game will get more fps. Crysis 3 still difficult to drive with high resolution cry.gif I think Crysis in 4K will be below 60fps sweat.gif
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QUOTE(napster2142 @ Jul 14 2016, 04:45 PM)
I thought 1440p already become a standard gamer res so old title would be no problem laugh.gif

yeah i did saw some review that this card can run 4k smooth on med-high settings
i just recognized that if i drop msaa to x4, i can enable NVIDIA txaa and my fps now in between 65-75 fps, thats okay for now  blush.gif 

i will ignore if my gpu literally screaming for CPU upgrade  laugh.gif  cpu upgrade will cost a lot considering need to buy mobo and ram also sweat.gif

bold part : my 1st run all stock, FPS hardly to pass 35 fps that time and some scene will drop below 30 (msaa x8), OC helps a lot
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It will still come down to game developer's optimization. For example Doom's recent update bring performance improvement, if they dont it will stay there.

I wonder anyone with current gen high-end GPU still have Crysis ( 1st gen ), how does it run now rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Jul 15 2016, 03:28 PM)
Then how about my scenario? from GTX670 jump to GTX1070?  biggrin.gif
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660ti to 1070 ( although briefly got 970 ) biggrin.gif

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