There's a specific thread for rig suggestion and what suggested components are here: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3884357

Two of that new Titan X to replace three of the old Titan X in current rig.

How much are you willing to pay above USD1,200 for an HBM2 equipped Titan X Pascal equivalent card?

HBM2 will probably only appear in Volta. Yields aren't plenty enough to fit into a gaming card, and Nvidia chose to place all the HBM2 memory they can salvage into their Tesla cards.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jul 22 2016, 02:38 PM

Then you're only here speculating with glee instead. I'd rather listen to rational thinking than gossiping about other people's purchases. How do you know "it does not make much difference for them and they're happy to pay for that"? Just because they're "rich consumer" they throw their money around blindly? If the "rich consumer" thinks like you and only wants to buy the most expensive, the Tesla P100 is there for them to buy blindly for USD12,400.

Are there any informative discussion forums other than HardForum or Overclock.net that I can refer to, with regards to the new Titan X performance, and if/should I get one or two for SLI. Even those forums had degenerated into mudslinging, with fanboys of the same camp calling names to those who can afford and/or want to get the new Titan X. 4K60Hz on a single card is an important metric and this card may be able to do so.

Don't really care about full fat GP102, or GP100 with HBM, unless you wanna pay more than what already is. All I need is 4K60Hz without having to jump through SLI hoops.

Seeing that this may finally be a 4K60Hz card at all maxed out, I may not need another one, but if I miss out on the August 2nd purchase window, stock may be gone and would be even worse than the current GTX1080 situation. SLI situation aren't encouraging either in DX12/Vulkan/OpenGL, wouldn't want that second Titan X idling doing nothing but occasional PhysX.

I guess I should wait till August 2nd, but that's cutting it to short to the launch/purchase window.

the 1080 stays in the VR rig. This one/two Titan XP(s) will replace three old Titan X from the main rig.

Depending on your shipping-in channel. Since this isn't offered at any retailers other than Nvidia.com. So it's up to the craftiness of the buyer to get this in. I reckon I can get this in at around RM5,500 a piece after conversion from USD.

How many of the last generation Titan X is from Nvidia.com? The last Titan X was allowed partner distribution channel, you see Asus/Gigabyte/etc versions of Titan X and these are what the distributors here are selling for whatever markup prices they want.

This time around, things have changed. The new Nvidia Titan X is exclusively sold at Nvidia.com only. No partner versions. No more markups, unless these "enterprising local distributors" also go through the Nvidia.com store route and get it there themselves. Which begs the question why local interested buyers aren't doing that themselves when it is now fair game for everyone else.

I did that myself. Purchased three Titan X through Nvidia.com and it arrived in Malaysia without much of a hassle. Granted, I dont use the channels that involves customs scalping, but there are ways to get them in without paying through the nose from local distributors. It's just that the audience here wants things without going through the effort of doing it themselves, or is naive to think that "local warranty" matters, when in reality, warranty situations and RMAs are handled poorly by these local distributors, thus negating that "local warranty" advantage.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jul 24 2016, 05:09 AM

Since when does that has stopped folks from getting their items even if it only ships "continental USA"? If there's a will, there's a way. It's a matter of how willing you are.

If you restrict yourself to things only available or "shipping" to Malaysia, see what kind of selection you get here. It's more "the race to the bottom of the bargain bin barrel" than anything else.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jul 24 2016, 09:51 AM

System builders are also stocking this. Companies like Maingear, Origin or Falcon Northwest. They are less likely to sell you "just the card", and will only sell this when you build a PC with them.

As for the warranty, "local warranty" for "peace of mind" doesn't work all the time. Case in point: Powerslide's "local" Sapphire warranty case. https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3990244 Resellers here are more interested in securing a sale from you than dealing with RMA.

The target audience for this card, for the amount of money he's spending, would've/should've done his homework and understands what he's getting himself into. If it's just for the sake of "buying a Titan for e-peen", then he deserves his fate when he realises the warranty situation. I've returned items made for purchase only in the USA before, and it's not all "horrors and nightmares" as it's made out to be. Reason being, local warranty procedures here in Malaysia is made so vague and not lined out clearly what happens in the background that buyers are more than happy to let the store they bought their items from deal with these uncertainties instead of dealing with it themselves. It's only that once you've done the returns yourself that you realise how clearly delineated the process is, while local stores here terrifies you with "buy online overseas warranty problematic to do" crap.

I know what I'm getting into. I'm not cheap either. Those who are, will "gao gao jia lat survey like buying a new house", or "gao gao jia lat make excuse why it's not worth it" and "gao gao jia lat make fun of those who want to buy it because it's not worth it to them, but it is to him".

Pick one.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jul 24 2016, 11:41 AM

When you think of it, this case is the same as buying online, when RMA also need to send it hundreds of KM away from you, right? At least you are in control with the situation if you buy online and deal with the RMA personally, instead of relying on these people to do this for you.

Ask PowerSlide. If the process has degenerated into how he had to endure, that "peace of mind" is already gone.

It's the "old way of doing things" versus the "new and better way". Old way being going to physical stores and buying things, versus the new way of buying things online and getting it shipped back. Just like taxi versus Uber. If the "old way" dont change their mindset when it comes to customer service, then the "new way" will take over.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jul 24 2016, 11:50 AM

Does not apply in the case of Powerslide.

Again, the advantage of buying physically here is so that you get to deal with another human presence who would RMA it properly when shit hits the fan. But more often than not, when shit hits the fan, that human presence dealt with it poorly, resulting in the same process and duration it took if you had bought it yourself online and RMA it yourself. The only upside buying locally is someone else is doing it for you. But even then, that "someone" isnt doing the job properly resulting in long RMA delays and in Powerslide's case, the BS he had to go through.

I prefer the instant gratification of "go to shop, grab what I want, have what I want instantly" too myself. Too many times I've complained that in Malaysia, "got money no stock". Because the dealers here only stocks the generic/rudimentary/common denominator for their stock, and not anything slightly high end. But when even the "advantage" of buying local has diminished when stocks are not available, stocks are artificially controlled in price and horrible RMA processes, what's the reason left buying local again?

You would've gotten your money back by now if you process for a refund and go Lowyat and get that monitor yourself. I demanded refund for a fridge that was not delivered on the date they promised me to, and even when they say they'll guarantee delivery the next day, I demanded refund. They had to comply. A promise is a promise. No point promising something if it is not fulfilled. Sometimes, you need to put your foot down. Then these tardy assholes will take notice.

Which is why you buy big ticket items that is worth that shipping cost. Any meager things that cost that little, you have Lazada, GemFive, 11Street, Lelong, Mudah, etc.

Question: has anyone here thought of looking down south, at our neighbour Singapore as another option to get electronics besides Amazon? Carousell SG and Lazada SG are good references of what's available locally in Singapore and bringing it back up involves a daily trip down to SG and back up. Lazy wanna drive down? Take the freaking Aeroline for RM60 one way and RM100 return. Even lazier? Ask them to ship. All you need to do is ask/find out.

I will not divulge the ways I take to bring in stuff from USA, but for big ticket items, I rather have them shipped to SG than Malaysia. I rather feed the Singaporean economy by letting them take the flat rate 7% tax, than feeding the Malaysian government 6% GST not to mention the "suka hati tax rate" of between 10-30% for their own classification of your items based on what they want to tax you with. With Singapore, I can plan my budget. Shipping it to Malaysia? See your luck, if that day the freaking customs officer is not having her period or he got himself laid nicely last night, he let it go. Otherwise, you catch them on the worse days (which always happens), you get slapped 30%.

I was once taxed 30% for a bunch of PC casing screws in red color. Item was USD8 in a ziplock bag. The only inflated cost was the shipping was rushed for USD25. I was taxed for the entire cost, USD33. How ridiculous does this sound to you? I even asked the postman to wait while I open the package infront of him and show him what customs is taxing me. A bunch of red screws. SMH. Never again. I will do whatever it is necessary to not give a single sen to this country, because this country's government does not deserve it.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jul 24 2016, 01:51 PM

Because most of the audience buying higher end has gravitated towards online purchase than a physical one. Catch 22.

Either way, if they don't have it in stock physically at the store, then have them at the warehouse, at least you know that you don't have to wait a week to get it in, because if that is the case, I might as well buy them online. See? Catch 22 again.

There used to be a time where stores that hold stocks readily and some with high end denominations are highly regarded, it's a prestige of sorts. It's the mentality of "who gets to the bottom of the barrel first" that is driving the stores away from stocking high end products (and adopted the "need to order" basis) and instead, stock the most boring, mundane products readily available at any Bangla-staffed Low Yat booth/store. See how last time PC Fair was the event to showcase the highest end product releases when it was held in PWTC. What happens to PC Fair now? Endless rows of cheap powerbanks and harddrives, magazine subscriptions and salespersons pushing you flyers to sign up for their telco plans.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jul 24 2016, 01:22 PM

"System Builder" in this context isn't resellers like C-Zone, AllIT, Viewnet, IdealTech, Cyntrix, etc. "System Builders" are boutique brands like Maingear, Origin, Steiger Dynamics, Falcon Northwest, who exclusively build system, and don't sell parts on a piecemeal basis. There are no boutique system builders in Malaysia. C-Zone is more of a reseller than system builder. the fact that they build systems is just as an aside, their main modus operandi is reselling PC components, building systems with them is one of the services they offer. Entities like Maingear and such, they only build systems, and do not sell parts.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jul 24 2016, 02:34 PM

10 years ago, there's tons of customers at LowYat Plaza because it caters to the whole spectrum of buyers, from those wanting the cheapest of the cheap to the highest end of the bleeding edge. That's why you had to wait, because the crowd that is being served at the store covers the whole entire spectrum. Now, the bleeding edge enthusiasts couldn't be bothered to go there anymore, the selection caters to the boring and mundane budget end. And when the majority of the stores only caters to the budget end, what's the difference between going out of the way into the city center to Low Yat to find the parts I need, versus just dropping by some garden variety PC stores near your housing area that also stock these things, ...or going online and make your purchases there. Just like the items you're selling on your signature. If people can buy from you straight from the web browser, why should they drop by anywhere else outside of their home? Is there a booth somewhere that they can see for themselves how good a quality it is the items you're selling? What happened to physical retail presence?

My gripe is more towards the stock availability almost exclusively only covering the boring and mundane budget level rather than the higher end ones. I'm not asking them to stock as many high end ones as how many there are covering the budget ones, just enough to entice the dormant high end purchasers to get off their asses and check out the scene physically, rather than trawling online forums and social media. "IF you want something else other than the budget ones we have here, have to order". Favourite statement there I quote from all the resellers there at LYP. Like I said before: "Got money, no stock".