Looks good on the TC-P, the chrome handle does make differences! I guess the chrome handle makes differences on the darker colors like Black, Modern Steel and Dark Ruby.
Official Honda Civic 10th Gen Owner/Fans Club V1, Turbo kick in yo...
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Looks good on the TC-P, the chrome handle does make differences! I guess the chrome handle makes differences on the darker colors like Black, Modern Steel and Dark Ruby.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jun 30 2016, 03:51 PM) What is WOT btw? I would expect it to behave that way, but the videos I have watch seems to be showing it emulates traditional shifting. WOT means wide open throttle.Yes, which is why I'm wondering the S is it CVT style of shifting or emulates traditional shifting ala like paddle shift. Do you mean traditional shifting as the rev counter climbs and then drops when it shifts up? CVT as you know is continuously variable transmission, so there is actually almost an infinite amount of gear ratios available which is why you can see that the rev counter sticks at one rev range and the speed can keep on increasing unlike traditional transmission which has stepped gear ratios. So, your so called paddle shift is actually the CVT locking itself into a fixed ratio correlated to a specific gear shown on the dash to give you a perception that works like a traditional transmission while in fact it is still the same. |
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Jun 30 2016, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(nm7 @ Jun 30 2016, 04:04 PM) WOT means wide open throttle. Ah, learnt a new term today hehe.Do you mean traditional shifting as the rev counter climbs and then drops when it shifts up? CVT as you know is continuously variable transmission, so there is actually almost an infinite amount of gear ratios available which is why you can see that the rev counter sticks at one rev range and the speed can keep on increasing unlike traditional transmission which has stepped gear ratios. So, your so called paddle shift is actually the CVT locking itself into a fixed ratio correlated to a specific gear shown on the dash to give you a perception that works like a traditional transmission while in fact it is still the same. Correct, emulate the traditional shifting where rev goes up and down as the ratio changes. I'm familiar with CVT transmission (Teana and City), both have some sort of "sport" mode where the rpm would stay at much higher side. But this Civic been watching the 0-60 videos, seems like setting to S emulates the traditional shifting (like fixed ratio, but then again knowing it is CVT it is probably just switching the ratio quickly LOL). CVT style should pick up much quicker than when emulating traditional shifting. |
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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Jun 30 2016, 03:31 PM) I heard this 2 days ago at one of the Honda dealers, the sales manager screaming on top of her lungs to her salesman "FASTER GET THAT CIVIC OFF THE TRAILER GO PDI THAT CAR, DIFFICULT CUSTOMER WANT IT URGENTLY..!!!" Ahhhla... as usual la. The customer is always right. Rush so much that even during PDI found problem also dun dare fix first. Handover car then tell customer come back service center later. And they close down for raya too. And being first batch, later got problem customers fell short of blaming their impatience and blame honda instead for crappy quality... End up, customer kena trolled only. Haha |
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QUOTE(reloadedprimus @ Jun 30 2016, 03:43 PM) Are they completely cool that we just come wash our cars and not do any coating from them ? some shops i encountered if i dont buy their packages or so they like not very happy. Business is business la. Sometimes you know they are at peak period doing lots of big business, you don't go kacau them with your RM60/month car wash which they don't make extra money from la.Even if they do, nanti cincai wash pulak you not happy kan? When they no business, i am sure they will be very grateful you give them "car wash only" business also lo. Sell extra service is part of their job, if you don't take up the extra service. There is no point they turn sour la. |
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Jun 30 2016, 04:25 PM
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Jun 30 2016, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jun 30 2016, 04:13 PM) Ah, learnt a new term today hehe. I need to go get a test drive soon. It sounds interesting from the way you describe it.Correct, emulate the traditional shifting where rev goes up and down as the ratio changes. I'm familiar with CVT transmission (Teana and City), both have some sort of "sport" mode where the rpm would stay at much higher side. But this Civic been watching the 0-60 videos, seems like setting to S emulates the traditional shifting (like fixed ratio, but then again knowing it is CVT it is probably just switching the ratio quickly LOL). CVT style should pick up much quicker than when emulating traditional shifting. CVT is actually a more superior technology if not for some technical issues. Even F1 considered using it once before it was outrightly banned after they seen the Williams FW15C with it. The concept is very simple, we used to have conventional 3 speed, 4 speed with overdrive, 5 speed, 6 speed, 7 speed and nowadays 8 speed in some lexus, beemer and merc. All this is how the manufacturers are trying to create gear ratios that are very close to improve acceleration yet not losing top end speed. So, the idea of CVT is actually correct where the ratio is never fixed and can change throughout the operation accordingly to maximize speed against optimizing power output. As i say, CVT does come with it's own set of problems but it is not really a major one. I don't think CVT will be quicker if it locks into pre-fixed ratios and so call "shift through the gears". The concept of CVT is to allow for the engine to run at peak power output and continually adjust the ratio to increase the speed. It is just like not allowing your engine to drop out of VTEC activation or turbine to drop out of optimal turbine speed and induce turbo lag |
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QUOTE(cricketboy @ Jun 30 2016, 04:25 PM) Deng! I had to wait 4 months for my Jazz when they launch and my other half had to wait 6 months for her HR-V not long after they launched leh. No discounts, no free gifts, no special anything wei. End up the HR-V no buy and fast forward 12 months later, not more than 2 weeks she got her car already. The biggest hold up, loan, trade-in and dunno wat other hassle. Car was sitting at dealership apparently just waiting for someone to go press the push start button. Just accept it la. Who ask u to go buy pre-order cars jeh. You wait another 6 to 8 months when production is up to full speed. You get your car in no time when pegoh is easily churning out 300- 400 FCs per day. I too learned through stupidity HM is like that. Just accept or buy the car later. Anyways, later maybe have discount somemore. |
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QUOTE(nm7 @ Jun 30 2016, 04:31 PM) I need to go get a test drive soon. It sounds interesting from the way you describe it. Yeap, agreed that the CVT more is a much more efficient in picking up vs. when emulating traditional shifting, but was surprised when I was watching those 0-60 videos out there.CVT is actually a more superior technology if not for some technical issues. Even F1 considered using it once before it was outrightly banned after they seen the Williams FW15C with it. The concept is very simple, we used to have conventional 3 speed, 4 speed with overdrive, 5 speed, 6 speed, 7 speed and nowadays 8 speed in some lexus, beemer and merc. All this is how the manufacturers are trying to create gear ratios that are very close to improve acceleration yet not losing top end speed. So, the idea of CVT is actually correct where the ratio is never fixed and can change throughout the operation accordingly to maximize speed against optimizing power output. As i say, CVT does come with it's own set of problems but it is not really a major one. I don't think CVT will be quicker if it locks into pre-fixed ratios and so call "shift through the gears". The concept of CVT is to allow for the engine to run at peak power output and continually adjust the ratio to increase the speed. It is just like not allowing your engine to drop out of VTEC activation or turbine to drop out of optimal turbine speed and induce turbo lag Well I only have a very short test drive on a non registered test drive car... will go for a test drive when the hype is down. Still waiting for my car plate.. hopefully by early 2017, sigh Melaka car plate so so so slow. Take this to observe if any issues on this engine too, until then just envy with the owners who have received their cars! |
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QUOTE(nm7 @ Jun 30 2016, 04:38 PM) Yupe, right now this is the must read forum space, all important information and findings and possibly the best sifus are here. Also the best place to stalk civic before i get my hand on my own, just heard news my black car has arrived too, undergoing those usual procedures at dealer side. |
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jun 30 2016, 04:39 PM) Yeap, agreed that the CVT more is a much more efficient in picking up vs. when emulating traditional shifting, but was surprised when I was watching those 0-60 videos out there. I don't think the century sprint is anything to shout about la.Well I only have a very short test drive on a non registered test drive car... will go for a test drive when the hype is down. Still waiting for my car plate.. hopefully by early 2017, sigh Melaka car plate so so so slow. Take this to observe if any issues on this engine too, until then just envy with the owners who have received their cars! But, if they got turbochargers to work properly. I am just hoping it will be a nice car around town driving. Big cars like this sometimes feel very heavy from standstill and low speed acceleration. So, if they manage to get the torque where it matters. It might be sweet. I know it is a perception thing at the end of the day. But, if done right. I think it makes a difference by having so much torque so early in the rev band. Just need it to feel like a big diesel engine. |
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