Thanks bro P,

For de info ... but de pj I was interested in was sold already.

I am in de 5% so LCD it is now is de ax100 worth getting or not, I didn't know making a decision can be so difficult....

Hehehe
Dirtrun

Timothyy, thanks for checking it out and taking the pictures.

Firstly the flicker is due to the eco mode that is used. You can do either of these 3 things:
1. Use Normal bulb mode all the time
2. Use normal bulb mode for the next 50-100 hrs then switch back to eco bulb mode
3. Get a firmware upgrade to v1.08 by the service center.

Secondly, this show the colour uniformity issue that is similar to the red bar that I saw during my demo. Apparently nothing much you can do. The service center may beable to realign the lcd panels or something. But at present I do not think it should affect your normal viewing as it does not seem serious. B the way most LCDs have this issue to a certain extent.... panasonic has decidedly more of its share. If you notice it during bright scenes or scenes of the bright sky in a movie then its time to send it in for a service.

Thirdly, I cannot tell from the pictures if there is a misconvergence of the panels. Not enuf resolution from the camera. If you want you can take a slose up pic of the lines in the center of the screen using the macro function.

Else the you should visually check if the lines correcly occupy its pixel or it blurs into the pixles next to it. Dunno else how to explain.

I am in the same boat. It has been a process of elimination. and now it is down to the Epson TW700 and Panny AX100 for me.

Have you seen other LCDs in this price range for 720p native resolution. If not then I encourage you to see as many as you can, then you will be able to make an informed decision. No projector is perfect for everyone, but there is one that is perfect for you. Its out there, calling your name....can you hear it....

I think the new 720p range of LCDs that just came out in the past 2-3 months have exceeded DLP stranglehold. I find the LCD blacks to be better than DLP. A lot is attributed to the better LCD panels and most importantly the dynamic irises. By the way I am in the 5%, so I may be biased.

I have come to know that some new generation DLPs with more mirrors on the colour wheel has almost eliminated the rainbow effect. Better technology and more options can only be better for us the consumer.

Hi Bro J,

No I have not and neither will I be able to, at least not in Pg anyway...over here it is very hard to get to see any demos of working units except when u are lucky and a friend just happens to use one. The shops don't carry or is not interested in this line to bother about demos..if u want can order if not sorry...

So tat leaves me with making an informed decision without seeing de end product, dicey and if it works de rewards will be great if not...well as long as there is a decent picture(red tinge,blue tinge...), I think I wont complain too much being a noob and no experience does help in that category, I suppose. At least I didn't get de used Benq7700 which dat model had more serious problems than dis panny now and at face value was a steal at de price offerred to me compared to when new...

Oh man hv to make a decision soon or else will go bonkers...hehehe hv even drawn money out already to go pay de dep...LOL..

Cheers
Dirtrun

good to read that you guys are sharing those valuable information. Dirtrun, too bad that the one that u r looking for was sold off

Hi bro,

If u are talking abt de Benq, actually I turned it down and friend sold it off to sumbody else cos de bulb firmware issue scared de hell out of me...

So now in dilemma to go for de Ax100 or go look summore( believe me, it is not easy up here)

Cheers
Dirtrun

I feel for you bro. Hang in there

If its any consolation, I still don't have a confirmed date for the audition of the Epson TW700 at the distributors prper AV room. Frus only.

Bro dirtrun, i knew abt it. Got a fellow forummer here who lives in PG. He also told me abt the scarcity of choices

I also face the bulb problem last year but luckily BENQ service center in Penang change it FOC with the new bulb design and upgrade my firmware to the latest version which solved the lamp burned issue.

Also, dynamic iris to me is not a long term solution as it only looks good on paper but when you hit a scene where is a mixture of bright and dark object, the picture will looked wash out. Also, dynamic iris is tough to tune as each scene change automatically based on the algorithm in the system.

Some new model of projector which carry real contrast 15000:1 is coming soon but cost a bomb for it's intro price. I'm looking to upgrade on next phase when 1080p projector drop to around RM 10,000 and with real contrast of 10000:1

This post has been edited by pierreye: Jan 26 2007, 12:38 AM

Thanks for the info. At last I went to AVS and check others comment as well.

I will call up Panasonic and ask them about the color uniformity problem... But last night I watched X Men 3... It was wonderful. Kekekeke...

Jason, I did what you mentioned, put the mode to Normal instead of Eco Mode and yup, the flicker is not there anymore. But this means problem. This means that the unit is not good. So... hope Panasonic service is good.

The flicker normally happen because of the lamp arc issue. Normally after watching in normal mode for few days will solved this problem. If still persist, you can ask them to change to new bulb. That's what I do with my BENQ when it happen. Call their service center and they ack as a problem.

Wow, that will be good... then I should change every 100hrs... kakakka... after 10 changes = 1 free bulb...

Anyway, I called them up this morning. Seems like they have not heard of the problem. No returns as of this moment.

May be like what in AVS forum ppl say, just enjoy the movie and forget about these small matter.

I think for me, I want to make until Panny Service team hate me. Kakakaka...

This post has been edited by timothyy: Jan 26 2007, 10:58 AM

Hi Big J,

Uhm now gonna check out de TW700 not physically le but read comments and check pricing, any idea on that? I mean de RRP for ax100 is 7k, so wat is de rrp of tw700?

Uhm apparently de tw600 is available as cinema 400 and is on offer in de US but wat is de 700 called there?Sorry only half way thru reading de 12 pg posts, hehehe...

Cheers
Dirtrun

For LCD, you have the choice of Panasonic AX100, Sanyo Z5, Epson TW700, and Hitachi TX300.

Not sure the black level from LCD can surpass the DLP. But it is all personal. A good DLP (with more color wheels) can be very expensive and beyond ones budget. But it does help to eliminate RBE.

Aiyo, how did I become Big J? (Unless you tokking about my brader )

The Epson TW700 is also know as the Cinema 810 in the US model but it is has a black case while we have a white case. The RRP is RM6699.... or sumthing like that. Street price is about 2-300 below your AX100 price..... u know the one you told me about.

I have a confirmed audition on Sunday afternoon at the dealers AV Room.... at last.

Wah,

U are my taikoh mah...hehehe

Yup just found tat out too(810/700 - 800/600) and I uhm have a street price of a lot above(think half a k) de best price I got for de Ax100 at least here in Pg that is...

BTW what is de best price available in KL rite now for de TW700, u can pm for de price if not convenient to say here...

Thanks
Dirtrun
Dirtrun

Hehehe,

Totally OOT here but just saw Bro Tims pix at AVS forum - sort of like another statistic to de many there...

Regards
Dirtrun

Kekeke...


Oi... why u all so stingy one? Give out your prices la... kekeke.... Then we make it buyers' market instead of sellers' market...

Hehehe,

But after tat kena K by mod ... better stay safe. Anyway got PM mah.
On pricing up north de Panny is more attractive...now if only dey can get de panelling issues solved...

Cheers
Dirtrun

This post has been edited by dirtrun: Jan 26 2007, 02:54 PM