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post Feb 18 2017, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Feb 17 2017, 12:06 AM)
ooh.... the bears are gathering tonight.
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How do you predict?
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post Feb 18 2017, 02:31 AM

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QUOTE(helo @ Feb 18 2017, 01:45 AM)
How do you predict?
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For some reasons, sometimes commodity like Oil/Gold are leading indicators where stocks will move.
Oil down, gold up, then dollar also moving. Money shifting around by the big boys. Stocks moved up too high, they
will decide pull some off the table. You know, it's a like a wave.. when you see this, you can kinda predict what will happen
next. The only thing difficult to predict it how long it will last.


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post Feb 18 2017, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Feb 18 2017, 02:31 AM)
For some reasons, sometimes commodity like Oil/Gold are leading indicators where stocks will move.
Oil down, gold up, then dollar also moving. Money shifting around by the big boys. Stocks moved up too high, they
will decide pull some off the table. You know, it's a like a wave.. when you see this, you can kinda predict what will happen
next. The only thing difficult to predict it how long it will last.
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i m nervous.

dow and S&P are showing signs of fatigue.

nasdaq is still running up but will fall hard if and when it falls.

bonds prices rising again, gotta watch this one.


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post Feb 19 2017, 03:25 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Feb 18 2017, 02:31 AM)
For some reasons, sometimes commodity like Oil/Gold are leading indicators where stocks will move.
Oil down, gold up, then dollar also moving. Money shifting around by the big boys. Stocks moved up too high, they
will decide pull some off the table. You know, it's a like a wave.. when you see this, you can kinda predict what will happen
next. The only thing difficult to predict it how long it will last.
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but in the end before market close, they reversed. oil up, gold down. hmm....tricky... cool2.gif
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post Feb 19 2017, 09:32 AM

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Many peoples like to play games in casino or buy 4D / Toto /Jackpot or online betting.
Probability of winning is damn low. Who got the higher chance ?

Why like to play these games? Why not, you own / invest into gaming companies that legally owned these games and hope to get quarterly quite attractive dividends YIELD ? Here we got magnum, toto, pmp , while in USA/HK got Wynn, Las Vegas Sands, MGM, Caesars, MPEL ...

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post Feb 20 2017, 04:09 AM

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QUOTE(netmask8 @ Feb 19 2017, 09:32 AM)
Many peoples like to play games in casino or buy 4D / Toto /Jackpot or online betting.
Probability of winning is damn low. Who got the higher chance ?

Why like to play these games? Why not, you own / invest into gaming companies that legally owned these games and hope to get quarterly quite attractive dividends YIELD ? Here we got magnum, toto, pmp , while in USA/HK got Wynn, Las Vegas Sands, MGM, Caesars, MPEL ...
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your statement shows that you might be confused on certain things about investment.
first of all, when you buy a gaming company's stock, that doesn't mean the stock can let you gain money even if the company continues making money. One simple reason is whether the company able to make "more money" than last year, or if the company's ongoing financial reports able to meet market's expectation.

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Guys,

Remember.. Monday US market is closed due to Presidents Day (definitely NOT for celebrating Trump-lah but knowing this fella,
he will claim it.) biggrin.gif

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post Feb 21 2017, 11:55 PM

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Wow.. Oil moved up big over the weekend. Can't catch the opportunity here. sad.gif

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post Feb 22 2017, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Feb 21 2017, 11:55 PM)
Wow.. Oil moved up big over the weekend. Can't catch the opportunity here.  sad.gif
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the bull is strong. everything related to "economic bullishness" may move up non-stop, inclusive oil. And for the same reason, gold, bearish.
just don't know how long can this bull run go. hmm.gif
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post Feb 22 2017, 12:39 AM

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So it's still not a good time to buy gold yet?
Cuz I feel the same as what @danmooncake feel...
The bullish will not last long
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post Feb 22 2017, 02:24 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Feb 22 2017, 12:21 AM)
the bull is strong. everything related to "economic bullishness" may move up non-stop, inclusive oil. And for the same reason, gold, bearish.
just don't know how long can this bull run go.  hmm.gif
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the higher it goes, the more nervous i get. laugh.gif

crude looks set to break out... 55 will clear it to go higher still.
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post Feb 22 2017, 04:49 AM

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I'll wait till it breaks out before committing any money.
Don't wait to get trap here at 54-55.

Or cannot break out again, maybe one more time to roll back down to 50-51 area. devil.gif

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Feb 22 2017, 04:49 AM)
I'll wait till it breaks out before committing any money.
Don't wait to get trap here at 54-55.

Or cannot break out again, maybe one more time to roll back down to 50-51 area.  devil.gif
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righto! biggrin.gif

so, i sold all uwt last night, see what happens in the next 2 days with api/eia stocks data.

the fact is longs are now at all time record high, physical ivcentories are still very high too.

high risk point risky... if and when the longs start to liquidate at some trigger...
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Best pre-profit in a decade ? LYG hmm.gif

SPECIAL DIVIDEND ==> http://www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk/companies/news/173512

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/0...ts-surge-150pc/

http://www.cityam.com/259560/lloyds-profit...an-doubles-2016

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post Feb 22 2017, 11:41 PM

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Nice... Oil retreating. Come 'mon bears. Push it back down down to 51.xx will ya? biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Feb 22 2017, 11:41 PM)
Nice... Oil retreating. Come 'mon bears. Push it back down down to 51.xx will ya?  biggrin.gif
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i support you. 16% cash waiting to pour back in. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 23 2017, 09:54 AM

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crude not about to go too far down yet!


Crude inventories fell by 884,000 barrels in the week to Feb. 17 to 512.7 million, compared with analysts' expectations for an increase of 3.5 million barrels, data from industry group the American Petroleum Institute showed on Wednesday. [API/S]

Crude stocks at the Cushing, Oklahoma, delivery hub were down by 1.7 million barrels and U.S. crude imports fell last week by 1.5 million barrels per day (bpd) to 7.398 million bpd, according to the API.

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Not sure if it is a good place to mention here. TDAmeritrade Asia ask for a foreign tax identification number in the W8-BEN form, but I do not have any tax number as of now.

Can I just leave it blank first then submit the application?
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post Feb 23 2017, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(ILoveLalat.net @ Feb 23 2017, 10:54 AM)
Not sure if it is a good place to mention here. TDAmeritrade Asia ask for a foreign tax identification number in the W8-BEN form, but I do not have any tax number as of now.

Can I just leave it blank first then submit the application?
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better ask here:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3396549/+480#top
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 23 2017, 11:08 AM)
Okay then thanks. thumbup.gif

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