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Davidtcf
post May 21 2022, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(wongkheong86 @ May 21 2022, 09:20 AM)
Perhaps wait until next year only start purchase?
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After Ukraine war over will have some uptrend. Seems like a long war without end in sight yet. Even if war over, if Putin still around sanctions won’t go away so soon. Sanctions affecting many companies since Russia is so big.

Next year dunno Fed done with interest rate hike or not. Possible for interest rate hike to extend up to one half years if inflation don’t improve.
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post May 24 2022, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ May 23 2022, 09:29 AM)
on contrary...my friend who is into technical analysis told me that probably is bottoming and will be reversal trend next...
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last month also we said this.. then see Google now hit new low of 2.1k. Earlier 2.8k thought it was cheap and I bought it sad.gif

hence I'm holding cash for time being.. got sick of the market keep diving downwards.

Each time Fed meeting, US stock prices go down again the following weeks. Always news is inflation still all time high. Need raise interest rates.
Until Biden also losing favorability rating due to crashing stock market. sweat.gif

SG reits also not spared all red now. Malaysia blue chips and reits steady but not sure when it will break. Ringgit keep having downwards pressure. Causing Bank Negara will be raising interest rates soon:
https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...es-next-quarter

Don't try to predict or listen to any analysts, just keep track of Fed's meeting news and you'll know when is the reversal.
If recession happens, stock market will tank even more.

This post has been edited by Davidtcf: May 24 2022, 10:05 AM
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post May 25 2022, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ May 25 2022, 12:19 AM)
added google during today dip.

When buy during a stock correction, just be careful of anchoring effect, google worth 2.8k may not be the real value as a reference point.

Always do your own research and placed your own valuation on the stock. Imagine you have the money to buy the business whole, and based on that thinking is the current price tag/market cap make sense for you or not.
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enough d seeing the stock prices keep going lower and lower.. will hold from buying more for time being.

Fed still not yet satisfy with raising interest rates..
Inflation situation also not yet improved.
War still ongoing in Ukraine. Hoping Putin will be goner soon.. at least give the stock market a breather:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10...lace-Putin.html

This post has been edited by Davidtcf: May 25 2022, 11:32 AM
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post May 27 2022, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ May 27 2022, 08:49 AM)
Small up tick in the market yesterday o.o
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yea always good to see this... gives some hope that it is not all red.
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post May 28 2022, 09:37 AM

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Maybe due to end of month people just got their salary and decided to buy some seeing everywhere on a discount (all time low since 6 mths ago).

Wait 2nd week to middle of the mth for a more accurate representation of the markets.
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post May 30 2022, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(umboy @ May 29 2022, 11:40 PM)
Tengku Zafrul say economy on track and ringgit will strengthen
What weed he smoke
I do not believe him
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today dropped to 4.38

wait la Malaysia will raise interest rates next quarter then will improve a bit:

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...es-next-quarter
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post May 30 2022, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ May 30 2022, 07:34 AM)
There you go again. That's why you piss hansel off.
Go tell Warren Buffet while you are at it.
Everyone's risk profile is different, to which you acknowledged that. And here you are giving an umbrella statement of techs are better than SRETs , blah blah.
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agree.. growth stocks is nice if you still have 20-30 years time to your lifespan..

once you reach 60 years old? will it still be attractive to you? What if a market crash happens right when you fell ill at 65 and need the money for medical treatment or simply wanna go to vacation for the last remaining years of your life? If at 55 to 60 you retire already, will rely on your savings / remaining money even more.

when we grow older need to reduce exposure to such risky stocks or ETF. Ratio for them need to reduce according to one's age.

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post May 31 2022, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ May 31 2022, 05:52 PM)
may i know what risk level you are talking about? admittedly, Ramjade doesn't stress (as frequently as he should) that each option is 100 shares, and if you don't have that amount of $$/shares already bought to cover, you could lose more than you put in.
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It's hard to find good cheap stocks.. Most good stocks are above 100 usd. So x100 you'd at least need 1-2k USD to play options. If a person doesn't have that much to begin with this is similar to putting too much eggs into one basket. Hard to predict their ups and downs too. Requiring 100 stocks is to buy covered puts or calls.

Naked puts and calls are using margin to buy. If not enough cash in your broker your other stocks will be liquidated to cover your losses.

So yea we have to state the risks too so that others are aware. I am still uneasy about options since we need to predict the stock price correctly. Predicting wrong means incurring losses. The realized gains and losses are much higher and faster than buying stocks. Also I rather diversify first than focus too much on one stock.

If I'm a rich person with many type of stocks all above 100 units then yea it's easier to get into it. Hard for an average salary earner to get there unless invest long in the market.

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post May 31 2022, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ May 31 2022, 06:21 PM)
I read your posting again, bro,...

Emm,... I think he started slowly and did not use margin,.. if I recalled what he wrote earlier. He made some good calls and predicted the right directions for his sells and puts when times were good and 'easier to predict'. From here, he collected premiums. With such premiums, just like dividends, he bought more US shares with which he increased his holdings, then enabling him to partake more of Options 'gambles'.

Sorry,.. I also do Options,... I even do Forex,... and I call them 'gambles',... please tread carefully, bros....

His actions are 'commendable',... but not his writings when he started signalling to others that it is easy to win like this !!!!

And to top it off,... he started saying he is not going back to dividend-investing, blah-blah-blah,... and : dividend-investors are slow in making money. Why insult others ? Look at his past writings,...
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Yes I personally feel it's like gambling too. One can only know for sure if can see future correctly.

But if search articles "is options gambling" all of them say no.. 😂
These derivatives are good income for brokers.. That's why. So thread carefully. My investors friends also told me if new to investing just stick to stocks or ETFs first. Greedy later end up lose more money.

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post May 31 2022, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(sp3d2 @ May 31 2022, 06:37 PM)
There is no one silver bullet that will lead to 100% success.

Even David Paul, an expertise of institutional trading and investment mentioned that he is satisfied with himself if he is correct only 75% of all time. Therefore the management of risk should be part of the investing and trading.

Thank you for the forumers here that highlights the importance of risk management
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What if keep lose 75-100% of the time? That would easily eat into your past earnings.

You can earn fast, but lose equally fast in options. And they have expiry dates. Not like stocks where they are unrealized losses until you sell.. Can choose to wait for the price to go up again, as long the company behind it does not collapse.

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post Jun 1 2022, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 1 2022, 05:12 AM)
You need to pay for quality. Cannot be stingy. Doing options on stuff like Microsoft, Nvidia, amd, tsmc, Adobe is risky/gamble??? You got to be joking. FYI, I don't gamble. Never have and never will. By selling options, you are the insurance writer, the casino house. And insurance and casino house always in over the long term. Statistically the odds are always in favour of the insurance and the casino house.

To generate a significant amount of cash flow from dividend investing Vs using options, one will need higher capital. Higher capital = hard for ordinary folks to achieve. The word here is significant so that you can retire when passive income >= salary.
Eg A RM30k p.a in dividends Vs options premium. One will need higher capital for Rm30k in dividends Vs using options.
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wah these stocks not cheap bro.. means you have 100 stocks of them each? That would require 18-50k+ USD just to own them to do covered options. sweat.gif
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post Jun 1 2022, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(Lon3Rang3r00 @ Jun 1 2022, 12:39 PM)
I thought everyone start with dividend investing before entering US Market? I still kept majority of my portfolio on bursa dividend stock. Then playing options to earn some along the way while also buying other growth stock. If really Tesla split 1:20 then I can play options with Tesla. As of now slowly accumulate Tesla share.
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Tesla stock split might get delayed.. they missed the latest regulatory filling.

https://fortune.com/2022/05/03/elon-musk-ke...oncrete%20ratio.
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post Jun 1 2022, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(sgh @ Jun 1 2022, 06:35 PM)
I am getting very worried about this promising growth stock TSLA. It seem to attract a lot of unwanted news. Not sure I want to add on in fact I am thinking to sell once hit my average buy in price. SGX now have NIO which is similar but China based EV company for alternative.
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No worry as long Elon Musk is around. He’s a genius and company has been growing steady in profits.. that’s why so many ppl bullish with Tesla.

At least make enough first before sell if you can’t take the stress of owning their stock.. won’t be long to make back especially if the stock split goes through.
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post Jun 1 2022, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(Lon3Rang3r00 @ Jun 1 2022, 06:25 PM)
How likely will we see another dip? After this week? Or it may bounce after they announce next interest rate. $$ came late one day huh huh
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Continue to double down if you have the money:

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https://www.reddit.com/r/market_sentiment/c...dive_into_what/

This is the way to HUAT big big after the crash thumbup.gif

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post Jun 1 2022, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(Lon3Rang3r00 @ Jun 1 2022, 08:16 PM)
It take few years to raise 30% and now it drop 30% in months, just buy now and hope it recover after few years.... Which I found that it doesn't matter when did you invest, If the stock up 10% it means you get 10% regardless of what amount you put. It's only matter which stock has the potential to grow more than xx% in a span of 5-10 years.
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Yea stick to DCA but double down the amount each time. This is a good time to gather more.

Interest rates affect stock prices.. But now seems better as inflation is dropping.. All we need now is Ukraine war to stop for market to recover:
https://www.nugget.ca/news/stock-markets-fa...g-big-challenge

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post Jun 2 2022, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 2 2022, 09:41 AM)
Yes. it is rocket science if you talk about more specific in tech.

You can replicate the outer layer, but the inner is empty. Just like China copy the iPhone. But it cannot run on ios.

Tsla tech is ahead of many yrs compare traditional maker. That is already ensuring your share price will not drop for some yrs to come. And when others catch up later, they all climb together the market. If tsla stand still.

There are not many manufacturers that can chunk out the quantity of EV at the moment. Demand is freaking high. But manufacturing cannot meet the demand. Tsla model Y need to wait 8 month for deliver. And people grab the car as fast as Tesla can produce. Global short supply and logistic cause the bottleneck for EV manufacturing.

The profit of each car tesla sell is 32.9%. That is high compare others and even traditional car maker.

What tesla have is money. And they are never short of supply. Cause people willing to invest on tesla's future. (cult)
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Yes software is as important as hardware. And other features too that is built in. Watch Tesla car reviews and you'll understand why the demand is so high for their cars.

Orders are months ahead of what they can deliver.. Yet buyers still patiently wait for their cars.
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post Jun 2 2022, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(Lon3Rang3r00 @ Jun 2 2022, 03:15 PM)
Let's assumed he already reached the moon and forgot about earth. I started with dividend cause it's almost guaranteed you get higher interest than the one you got from FD. And some stocks like Maybank will offer dividend reinvestment plan that let you buy more of their share at a discount rate, which is double win at that time. Until I met few that told me should just go with Growth stock and involve in US market if my goal is to achieve FIRE and that's is only recently where growth stock is all racing upward. But too bad, the moment I step into US territory, it seems I accidentally crashed the entire US Market.... Unsure whether my bad luck to be blame....

But nonetheless I still see growth stock is the only way to reach FIRE early compare to Dividend. Maybe I'll switch back to full dividend If I ever hit $1m before 55. Still got decade/s to go.
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Another good thing about good dividend stocks is there is less downside.. Stock prices for them is less liable to downwards pressure if the company is doing good. Example Maybank, good REITs. So if tight on money can sell them to make a small profit or smaller loss / no loss.

But also careful on some dividend stocks that offer super high dividends like >10% but their returns keep dropping.. They using dividend to attract people to buy. Problem is there is no support for them to give such dividends (not sustainable). Hence need to check properly and not base on dividend yield alone.

Growth sure you can earn alot the moment they pump to the moon..but like bear market now they tend to drop more. So that is why we diversify. Too much into one type of stocks is dangerous also.. Especially if one is at an older age with more risks to health, career, family related issues etc.

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post Jun 3 2022, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(Lon3Rang3r00 @ Jun 2 2022, 08:31 PM)
Anyone here over 50% on single ETF? mind share your thought? Do you wish to have more diversify or Simply one Ireland domiciled S&P500 is enough.
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most people will suggest mix in some VWRA.

Also do start accumulate some REITs too or local dividend stocks like Maybank.. in case something like this happens again (bear market) you got elsewhere that can sell for quick cash (without much loss or some small profit). SG Reits also can but it can be affected by crash in the US.
Have some spare cash at MMF (e.g. KDI Save) or FD. If recession come and we lose our job, will need several months of cash at least.
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post Jun 3 2022, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(RiriRuruRara @ Jun 3 2022, 05:25 PM)
Do you guys still think Google can drop to 2000 or lower ?or have it already enter the bull run?
Kinda regret not going in last week when it drop to as low 20XX...
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if you wait till stock split in July 2022, will be even harder to get at this price.

right now USD 2352 stock split into 20 = USD 117.60
so don't wait already, quickly buy ba. Don't time the market will lose to it.

If lucky last week bought at 2k+ then is really your luck.. but that time has passed.

Sos: https://www.fool.com/investing/2022/06/02/a...-1-stock-split/

I bought mine at USD2.8k but I'm confident can make back once the split happens. If not doesn't matter I'm holding Google for the long term, as long their company is doing well smile.gif

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post Jun 6 2022, 11:26 PM

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Amazon stock price going up so fast after the split. Hope Google will be the same next mth.

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