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 RX 480 or GTX1070? Or GTX1060?, Which is better?

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post Jul 17 2016, 03:20 PM

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RM1150 for plain vanilla Sapphire RX480, can buy?
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post Jul 17 2016, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(victor_hoh @ Jul 17 2016, 03:20 PM)
RM1150 for plain vanilla Sapphire RX480, can buy?
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Suggest to wait for GTX1060. Hopefully it will bump the price down. lol
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post Jul 17 2016, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(victor_hoh @ Jul 17 2016, 03:20 PM)
RM1150 for plain vanilla Sapphire RX480, can buy?
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wait for aftermarket 1060/480 or straight go to 1070. reference 480 is on par with 970 mostly but reference heatsink is subpar.
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post Jul 17 2016, 03:38 PM

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Anything above 1k then just wait for GTX1060 smile.gif plenty video comparing GTX1060 vs GTX980 and the performance is like very similar but GTX1060 will be cheaper than current GTX980 price, aftermarket.
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post Jul 17 2016, 03:39 PM

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Definitely gtx 1070 if can afford. Mine bought from gemfive offer around rm1847 after apply code. At the box it stated it can boost to 1700+-MHZ . But yesterday i checked with msi afterburner it boosted to 1949 MHZ without any oc being apply smile.gif . This card is simply just a beast thumbup.gif
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post Jul 17 2016, 03:52 PM

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I am not ready to pay an arm and half a leg for a graphic card. Budget is RM1.4K.
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post Jul 17 2016, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(victor_hoh @ Jul 17 2016, 03:52 PM)
I am not ready to pay an arm and half a leg for a graphic card. Budget is RM1.4K.
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No other choice. Wait for GTX1060 then.
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post Jul 17 2016, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Jul 17 2016, 02:35 PM)
Sadly only in Vulkan mode and so far I think only Doom have this kind of result. The rest of the game RX480 still vastly behind 970.
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This is not true. In a yesteryear's API (teehee, I mean DX11) there are some games where the GTX970 gives better fps like Anno, The Witcher 3, Fallout 4 but definitely not "vastly". And there are some games RX480 performs better like in FarCry, GTA, Thief.

But RX480 consistently performs better than the GTX970 in DX12.

QUOTE(Someonesim @ Jul 17 2016, 02:35 PM)
Or wait 1060 for future proofing. Also to see if 1060's local price are low enough to 'force' AMD drop RX480's price.
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Well there's no way to tell what lies in the future, what if developers decided to use a lot of async compute and shader intrinsic functions? Or what if developers like the low-level nature of Vulkan and plans to adopt it more?

That being said, who knows what if GTX1060 performs better than RX480 in DX11(duh), DX12 and even Vulkan? laugh.gif

This post has been edited by khelben: Jul 18 2016, 09:57 AM
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post Jul 18 2016, 01:57 AM

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QUOTE(victor_hoh @ Jul 17 2016, 03:52 PM)
I am not ready to pay an arm and half a leg for a graphic card. Budget is RM1.4K.
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heard from a staff at CZone lowyat saying that it might cost 1.5-1.6k
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post Jul 18 2016, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(khelben @ Jul 17 2016, 04:56 PM)
This is not true. In a yesteryear's API (teehee, I mean DX11) there are some games where the GTX970 gives better fps like Anno, The Witcher 3, Fallout 4 but definitely not "vastly". And there are some games RX480 performs better like in FarCry, GTA, Thief.

But RX480 consistently performs better than the GTX970 in DX12.
Well there's no way to tell what lies in the future, what if developers decided to use a lot of async compute and shader intrinsic functions? Or what if developers like the low-level nature of Vulkan and plans to adopt it more?

That being said, who knows what if GTX1060 performs better than RX480 in DX11(duh), DX12 and even Vulkan? laugh.gif
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Seeing 1070, 1080 literally gets no gain in Vulkan, if more devs start adopting Vulkan (oh, dear Mantle), AMD's gonna trample over Nvidia really hard.

Judging from that, I highly doubt 1060 will be any better than RX480 for Vulkan considering 1060, 1070 and 1080 are of the same Pascal architecture. Nvidia always has problem with async compute anyway biggrin.gif

Hopefully Vulkan can help AMD get back to it's former glory, everyone knowns AMD has been plagued by its lousy DX11 drivers.
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QUOTE(zorbyss. @ Jul 18 2016, 11:29 AM)
Seeing 1070, 1080 literally gets no gain in Vulkan, if more devs start adopting Vulkan (oh, dear Mantle), AMD's gonna trample over Nvidia really hard.

Judging from that, I highly doubt 1060 will be any better than RX480 for Vulkan considering 1060, 1070 and 1080 are of the same Pascal architecture. Nvidia always has problem with async compute anyway biggrin.gif

Hopefully Vulkan can help AMD get back to it's former glory, everyone knowns AMD has been plagued by its lousy DX11 drivers.
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But GTX1000 series do get some improvements with Vulkan.

We'll just have to wait 2 more days to see how does the 1060 perform.
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Wow..just when Im planning to change to new card..the 'sweet spot' cards are battling it out like crazy.

BTW

I was considering to buy 1070 before, but due to budget constraint, It seems that the cards have been priced WAAAAYY HIGHER than those in the US.

So just when I decided to downgrade my cards to RX480 and past NVIDIA maxwell cards, VULKAN and DX12 happens.

Regardless we already know now NVIDIA cant keep up to fully utilize Async Compute, so for budget gamer like me, ASyc Compute is like a blessing from the heaven. And RX480 (and ALL AMD cards) tramples over ALL NVIDIA cards (of course after matching the price point and targeted models) except Pascals.

Now they said GTX 1060 would fight head to head with RX480, and with overly high mark up price for cards in Malaysia, I dont think a mid performance cards would sell well at RM 1.4-1.5k, thats just ridiculous..

So back to my situation, RX 480 seems to be a good choice, but when you factor in a used R9 390x cards...dude..its getting wayyy more complicated.

Since I re set my budget to RM 1.5k, any suggestion for 1080p cards? I want to set the games to ALL ULTRA setting.

now im stuck with Used R9 390x and new RX480. Since NVIDIA MAxwell GTX 900 already obsolete. I would prefer for a more future proof cards.

This post has been edited by NUR_VER.3: Jul 18 2016, 07:16 PM
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post Jul 18 2016, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Jul 18 2016, 07:15 PM)
Wow..just when Im planning to change to new card..the 'sweet spot' cards are battling it out like crazy.

BTW

I was considering to buy 1070 before, but due to budget constraint, It seems that the cards have been priced WAAAAYY HIGHER than those in the US.

So just when I decided to downgrade my cards to RX480 and past NVIDIA maxwell cards, VULKAN and DX12 happens.

Regardless we already know now NVIDIA cant keep up to fully utilize Async Compute, so for budget gamer like me, ASyc Compute is like a blessing from the heaven. And RX480 (and ALL AMD cards) tramples over ALL NVIDIA cards (of course after matching the price point and targeted models) except Pascals.

Now they said GTX 1060 would fight head to head with RX480, and with overly high mark up price for cards in Malaysia, I dont think a mid performance cards would sell well at RM 1.4-1.5k, thats just ridiculous..

So back to my situation, RX 480 seems to be a good choice, but when you factor in a used R9 390x cards...dude..its getting wayyy more complicated.

Since I re set my budget to RM 1.5k, any suggestion for 1080p cards? I want to set the games to ALL ULTRA setting.

now im stuck with Used R9 390x and new RX480. Since NVIDIA MAxwell GTX 900 already obsolete. I would prefer for a more future proof cards.
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i heard that PALIT GTX1070 JETSTREAM 8GB selling for 1999 by seller on Gemfive, sometimes with voucher you can get -RM350 off, though i'm not sure if they still have the voucher promo or stock left. but around RM1700 is quite good, considering reference 480 already RM1299/1399 here.

you get more performance/value since 1070 is higher tier, especially if you want to ultra everything and have RM1500 budget.

as for mid range cards, imo it's better to wait for benchmarks for both custom 1060s and 480s then you can better decide which price point is better.

This post has been edited by svfn: Jul 19 2016, 10:47 PM
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post Jul 18 2016, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Jul 18 2016, 07:15 PM)
Wow..just when Im planning to change to new card..the 'sweet spot' cards are battling it out like crazy.

BTW

I was considering to buy 1070 before, but due to budget constraint, It seems that the cards have been priced WAAAAYY HIGHER than those in the US.

So just when I decided to downgrade my cards to RX480 and past NVIDIA maxwell cards, VULKAN and DX12 happens.

Regardless we already know now NVIDIA cant keep up to fully utilize Async Compute, so for budget gamer like me, ASyc Compute is like a blessing from the heaven. And RX480 (and ALL AMD cards) tramples over ALL NVIDIA cards (of course after matching the price point and targeted models) except Pascals.
Now they said GTX 1060 would fight head to head with RX480, and with overly high mark up price for cards in Malaysia, I dont think a mid performance cards would sell well at RM 1.4-1.5k, thats just ridiculous..

So back to my situation, RX 480 seems to be a good choice, but when you factor in a used R9 390x cards...dude..its getting wayyy more complicated.

Since I re set my budget to RM 1.5k, any suggestion for 1080p cards? I want to set the games to ALL ULTRA setting.

now im stuck with Used R9 390x and new RX480. Since NVIDIA MAxwell GTX 900 already obsolete. I would prefer for a more future proof cards.
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With rx480 u cant play the old gta 5 in ultra at 60hz 1080p
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post Jul 18 2016, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(svfn @ Jul 18 2016, 07:26 PM)
i heard that PALIT GTX1070 JETSTREAM 8GB selling for 1999 by seller on Gemfive, sometimes with voucher you can get -RM350 off, though i'm not sure if they still have the voucher promo or stock left. but around RM1700 is quite good, considering reference 480 already RM1299/1399 here.

you get more performance/value since 1070 is higher tier, especially if you want to ultra everything and have RM1500 budget.

as for midrange cards, imo it's better to wait for benchmarks for both custom 1060s and 480s then you can better decide which price point is better.
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Woohh...The after market RX 480, yeah maybe I should wait a while longer.

QUOTE(bamkai @ Jul 18 2016, 07:33 PM)
With rx480 u cant play the old gta 5 in ultra at 60hz 1080p
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ohmy.gif Just when I thought RX480 can do it, but maybe the aftermarket ones will.
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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Jul 18 2016, 07:42 PM)
Woohh...The after market RX 480, yeah maybe I should wait a while longer.
ohmy.gif  Just when I thought RX480 can do it, but maybe the aftermarket ones will.
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In GTA V we take a simple approach to benchmarking: the in-game benchmark tool is used. However, due to the randomness within the game itself, only the last sequence is actually used since it best represents gameplay mechanics.

i think you might need more juice if you care about GTAV and really need to max out everything. aftermarket isnt out yet so no benchmarks.
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QUOTE(bamkai @ Jul 18 2016, 07:33 PM)
With rx480 u cant play the old gta 5 in ultra at 60hz 1080p
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What happened ? Very low fps ?
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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Jul 18 2016, 08:58 PM)
What happened ? Very low fps ?
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I think the msaa kill it. Its heavy toll even the gtx 980 had a hard time to maintain 60
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QUOTE(khelben @ Jul 18 2016, 06:45 PM)
We'll just have to wait 2 more days to see how does the 1060 perform.
Tomorrow night can see already.

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11PM I will have LIVE session with the Zotac GTX 1060 AMP.

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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Jul 18 2016, 07:42 PM)
Woohh...The after market RX 480, yeah maybe I should wait a while longer.
ohmy.gif  Just when I thought RX480 can do it, but maybe the aftermarket ones will.
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aftermarket also won't bring you that far. go gtx1070 since you got RM1500 budget, top a little bit more.

Or wait for next RX line up. thumbup.gif

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