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 RX 480 or GTX1070? Or GTX1060?, Which is better?

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post Jun 10 2016, 01:36 AM

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The new GTX 1070 kinda overpriced tho.

Need to wait for rx480 benchmark before deciding.

Plus we dont know much about the upcoming rx490.
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post Jun 10 2016, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 10 2016, 02:52 AM)
RX 480 should be about RM 1200 range, the R9 380X region.
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I sure hope the performance are on par with GTX 980 or higher than GTX 970. Im looking for options to replace my old ASUS 7950 TOP.

Plus im still gaming at 1080p LOL biggrin.gif
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post Jun 10 2016, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(HurreDurre @ Jun 10 2016, 02:48 AM)
Don't forget the 'Gimpworks' - the urban myth surrounding Nvidia's method of gimping the older generation of card in favor of pushing more sales and support with the newer lineups.

It's somewhat true, GTX 770 was better than the 280x on debut, but ever since then the 280x has climbed the rank, beating the GTX 780 in most games and even the 780Ti in DX12 titles.

You can fix AMD's buggy launch driver issue, and efficiency issue (which they did with Polaris)

But you can't fix the Gimping and and the missing DX12 Async Compute feature.

Some says that DX12 is just a fad, kinda like the terrible epic failure of DX10, and will be superceded by DX13 or even going for another API standard

Whatever the reason is, it's your money and just get what you want.
Just don't be fanboy that is completely oblivious to the pros and cons of your chosen Red / Green team.
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Dude, are you serious? no wonder my previous GTX 260 was doing badly when newwer cards came out.

But Im guessing the issues lies on more driver optimization of latest GPU cores and features that might not be available on older cards.

Like the latest API and Async features in latest trends.
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post Jun 11 2016, 02:11 AM

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QUOTE(hyperspeed @ Jun 10 2016, 06:27 PM)
Rx480 or 1070 should be able play 2k monitor hassle free. Im still with 1080 monitor. But these card for my skylake with 2k monitor.
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How much does the 2k monitor costs these days, thinking of upgrading sometime later.

You use Skylake K series?

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post Jun 11 2016, 02:14 AM

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QUOTE(HurreDurre @ Jun 11 2016, 12:07 AM)
So its just a refreshed R9?

That couldnt be right bro..


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post Jun 11 2016, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(HurreDurre @ Jun 11 2016, 02:19 AM)
not refreshed, definitely more efficient, lower power draw and TDP, better performance per watt

but best case scenario it should perform close to a 390x, not just on par with the 390

i sure hope that benchmark is true, BUT for a 470
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I sure hope so too, or else my budget of rm1.2k-1.6k gpu gonna be smashed

Lets see the official ones soon.
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post Jul 18 2016, 07:15 PM

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Wow..just when Im planning to change to new card..the 'sweet spot' cards are battling it out like crazy.

BTW

I was considering to buy 1070 before, but due to budget constraint, It seems that the cards have been priced WAAAAYY HIGHER than those in the US.

So just when I decided to downgrade my cards to RX480 and past NVIDIA maxwell cards, VULKAN and DX12 happens.

Regardless we already know now NVIDIA cant keep up to fully utilize Async Compute, so for budget gamer like me, ASyc Compute is like a blessing from the heaven. And RX480 (and ALL AMD cards) tramples over ALL NVIDIA cards (of course after matching the price point and targeted models) except Pascals.

Now they said GTX 1060 would fight head to head with RX480, and with overly high mark up price for cards in Malaysia, I dont think a mid performance cards would sell well at RM 1.4-1.5k, thats just ridiculous..

So back to my situation, RX 480 seems to be a good choice, but when you factor in a used R9 390x cards...dude..its getting wayyy more complicated.

Since I re set my budget to RM 1.5k, any suggestion for 1080p cards? I want to set the games to ALL ULTRA setting.

now im stuck with Used R9 390x and new RX480. Since NVIDIA MAxwell GTX 900 already obsolete. I would prefer for a more future proof cards.

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post Jul 18 2016, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(svfn @ Jul 18 2016, 07:26 PM)
i heard that PALIT GTX1070 JETSTREAM 8GB selling for 1999 by seller on Gemfive, sometimes with voucher you can get -RM350 off, though i'm not sure if they still have the voucher promo or stock left. but around RM1700 is quite good, considering reference 480 already RM1299/1399 here.

you get more performance/value since 1070 is higher tier, especially if you want to ultra everything and have RM1500 budget.

as for midrange cards, imo it's better to wait for benchmarks for both custom 1060s and 480s then you can better decide which price point is better.
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Woohh...The after market RX 480, yeah maybe I should wait a while longer.

QUOTE(bamkai @ Jul 18 2016, 07:33 PM)
With rx480 u cant play the old gta 5 in ultra at 60hz 1080p
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ohmy.gif Just when I thought RX480 can do it, but maybe the aftermarket ones will.
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post Jul 18 2016, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(babykids @ Jul 18 2016, 10:45 PM)
aftermarket also won't bring you that far. go gtx1070 since you got RM1500 budget, top a little bit more.

Or wait for next RX line up.  thumbup.gif
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Thats the thing, what if suddenly AMD troll and launch rx490 or RX FURY like they did with previous card line up? That might be faster in dx12 or vulkan, compared to 1070 or even 1080?

put 2k for 1070 then next year a 1.6 k card from AMD tapau with vulkan or dx12.

Habis woo nangis
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post Jul 19 2016, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(babykids @ Jul 19 2016, 12:02 AM)
don't trust AMD too much, if RX 480 selling in RM1399, you think their top tier GPU will sell how much? See the fury pricing, they are not that capable/efficiency like you think.

Let assume every game developer adopt and use the right way to implement vulkan, that only can bring them back to the game, base on AMD current architecture and technology, i don't think they can compete nvidia pascal.

Last, they are small company compare with nvidia. Base on marketing strategy , management power , all those are way weaker compare with nvidia.

In Malaysia, don't buy RX 480, it is not cheap enough to own. US then yes, it is nice card in term of performance and price.
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Pricing wise I would say due to local suppliers la, they might want to earn more, thats why the pricing here is ridiculous.

But if you ask me, game developers are starting to look towarda the advantage of Asyc Compute, I mean, my old card 7950 beating nvidia TITAN on doom vulkan benchmark?

Dude thats the advantage of async compute that any developer would want, because they can deliver better experience to any gamers regardless of their hardware. More gamers=better game sales

Of course nvidia have money and power, heck their pascals dont even need asyc compute to beat any AMD cards.

But for those who are budget conscious who cant afford to drop 2 k on gpu, that asyc compute is a freakin saviour bro. You can spend less on a card that works great on budget 1080p monitor, to me thats a bargain.

Dont get me wrong though, NVIDIA CARDS ARE THE KING. u gotta pay the king with royal price to get his service la.

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post Jul 19 2016, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Jul 19 2016, 01:02 AM)
RX 480 4GB version is great if its less than RM1k ...
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In fact it is priced at rm 800-1000 in the US.

Msia? Hambik rm1.3k, tammau beli sudah bro.

But what todo, they have to pay gst, shipping and whatnot.
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post Jul 19 2016, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(babykids @ Jul 19 2016, 01:07 AM)
That true, the point stand if we are in the USA. Asyc compute can bring RX 480 to GTX 980 performance. But there are the limit.

RM 1299/1399 will bring you to
- half-bake vulkan (you bought now, may be have to suffer for most of the title for a while)
- max or slightly unleashed to equal GTX 980
- near zero OC capability
- uncertain sweet spot for 1080p gaming, may still suffer uncomfortable min fps, i believe future AAA title still pushing the graphic limit, stay in the mid-end card, asyc compute still cant bring you there.

If the card selling below RM1000 in malaysia, then we have something to convince ourself to get it. If not , i rather top slightly to get 1070 for 1080p gaming. Or next AMD card, but not this bad standing RX 480.
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Thats why im contemplating to get AMD rx480, because i know damn sure AMD will release a better RX variant after they released the lower end like 470 and 460.

Just like they do with Fury cards last time.

Plus the pricing of RX480 is very expensive, but considerable since the local markets here might not be enough for a fully licensed distributor to survive If they match the US retails.

And of course we all can take the best solution and buy Pascals, but it seems overkill if play at 1080p monitor.

So yeah, will have to wait further before deciding, but for now I am more interested on what Async Compute can bring us in the future.

Since I dont play games that much like before, I always have that half a year gap before buying new games (heck i still havent finish witcher 3 or doom). So by the time I buy latest games most probabbly they already fully utilize dx12 or vulkan.

And due to this also i damn scared to jump back to nvidia, since the cards does not age well compared to AMD, once u jump, be ready for yearly or dual yearly card upgrade to maintain the performance.

I remembered it was this year I wanted to get gtx970, and look at current situation when dx12 and async compute implemented? Wooh damn lucky i didnt make the jump and wait further.

Well thats just me personally, I prefer long term usage than top performer, so far AMD cards does age very well. Their drivers seems to keep old cards like mine performing as good as current gens.

But for those who have money and heavy gamers, I think NVIDIA can help them getting the best performing card currently.

This post has been edited by NUR_VER.3: Jul 19 2016, 01:27 AM
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post Jul 19 2016, 01:36 AM

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QUOTE(babykids @ Jul 19 2016, 01:31 AM)
nod.gif i have same feeling in this too. Leading product have this issue, limit the old card, force you to upgrade. The tactic always work. sweat.gif

when you are number 2, you will try harder. No doubt.
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yeah agreed, amd have to work harder, thanks to that they are killing it in dx12
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post Jul 19 2016, 02:08 AM

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QUOTE(babykids @ Jul 19 2016, 01:36 AM)
if want to bet on vulkan, this one is the right choice. Hope the price is about the same as reference.

https://www.lowyat.net/2016/109684/asus-det...-graphics-card/
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wooh thats awesome, cant wait to see the benchmarks
QUOTE(luqmanz @ Jul 19 2016, 01:43 AM)
If you like GTX 970 ... you can just grab R9 290x or 390x ... they are on the same level ... but more future proof with proper DX12 Async Compute.
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been thinking about that too, but lets see the aftermarket rx480 performs first.

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