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 RX 480 or GTX1070? Or GTX1060?, Which is better?

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post Jul 18 2016, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(babykids @ Jul 18 2016, 10:45 PM)
aftermarket also won't bring you that far. go gtx1070 since you got RM1500 budget, top a little bit more.

Or wait for next RX line up.  thumbup.gif
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Thats the thing, what if suddenly AMD troll and launch rx490 or RX FURY like they did with previous card line up? That might be faster in dx12 or vulkan, compared to 1070 or even 1080?

put 2k for 1070 then next year a 1.6 k card from AMD tapau with vulkan or dx12.

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QUOTE(bamkai @ Jul 18 2016, 10:39 PM)
I think the msaa kill it. Its heavy toll even the gtx 980 had a hard time to maintain 60
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My gtx 970 runs max settings at 60fps 1080p solid (i lock to 60fps... dont like fluctuating fps) ...no anti-aliasing... i use my own tv for anti-aliasing...

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post Jul 19 2016, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Jul 18 2016, 10:51 PM)
Thats the thing, what if suddenly AMD troll and launch rx490 or RX FURY like they did with previous card line up? That might be faster in dx12 or vulkan,  compared to 1070 or even 1080?

put 2k for 1070 then next year a 1.6 k card from AMD tapau with vulkan or dx12.

Habis woo nangis
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don't trust AMD too much, if RX 480 selling in RM1399, you think their top tier GPU will sell how much? See the fury pricing, they are not that capable/efficiency like you think.

Let assume every game developer adopt and use the right way to implement vulkan, that only can bring them back to the game, base on AMD current architecture and technology, i don't think they can compete nvidia pascal.

Last, they are small company compare with nvidia. Base on marketing strategy , management power , all those are way weaker compare with nvidia.

In Malaysia, don't buy RX 480, it is not cheap enough to own. US then yes, it is nice card in term of performance and price.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 18 2016, 10:41 PM)
Tomorrow night can see already.

9PM my article goes live.

11PM I will have LIVE session with the Zotac GTX 1060 AMP.

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any idea regarding pricing brows.gif ?
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post Jul 19 2016, 12:18 AM

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Yeah I know the pricing but varies from model to model.

Slightly above RX 480.
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post Jul 19 2016, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 19 2016, 12:18 AM)
Yeah I know the pricing but varies from model to model.

Slightly above RX 480.
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QUOTE(babykids @ Jul 19 2016, 12:02 AM)
don't trust AMD too much, if RX 480 selling in RM1399, you think their top tier GPU will sell how much? See the fury pricing, they are not that capable/efficiency like you think.

Let assume every game developer adopt and use the right way to implement vulkan, that only can bring them back to the game, base on AMD current architecture and technology, i don't think they can compete nvidia pascal.

Last, they are small company compare with nvidia. Base on marketing strategy , management power , all those are way weaker compare with nvidia.

In Malaysia, don't buy RX 480, it is not cheap enough to own. US then yes, it is nice card in term of performance and price.
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Pricing wise I would say due to local suppliers la, they might want to earn more, thats why the pricing here is ridiculous.

But if you ask me, game developers are starting to look towarda the advantage of Asyc Compute, I mean, my old card 7950 beating nvidia TITAN on doom vulkan benchmark?

Dude thats the advantage of async compute that any developer would want, because they can deliver better experience to any gamers regardless of their hardware. More gamers=better game sales

Of course nvidia have money and power, heck their pascals dont even need asyc compute to beat any AMD cards.

But for those who are budget conscious who cant afford to drop 2 k on gpu, that asyc compute is a freakin saviour bro. You can spend less on a card that works great on budget 1080p monitor, to me thats a bargain.

Dont get me wrong though, NVIDIA CARDS ARE THE KING. u gotta pay the king with royal price to get his service la.

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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Jul 19 2016, 12:48 AM)
Pricing wise I would say due to local suppliers la, they might want to earn more, thats why the pricing here is ridiculous.

But if you ask me,  game developers are starting to look towarda the advantage of Asyc Compute, I mean, my old card 7950 beating nvidia TITAN on doom vulkan benchmark?

Dude thats the advantage of async compute that any developer would want, because they can deliver better experience to any gamers regardless of their hardware. More gamers=better game sales

Of course nvidia have money and power, heck their pascals dont even need asyc compute to beat any AMD cards.

But for those who are budget conscious who cant afford to drop 2 k on gpu, that asyc compute is a freakin saviour bro. You can spend less on a card that works great on budget 1080p monitor, to me thats a bargain.

Dont get me wrong though, NVIDIA CARDS ARE THE KING. u gotta pay the king with royal price to get his service la.
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RX 480 4GB version is great if its less than RM1k ...
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post Jul 19 2016, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Jul 19 2016, 12:48 AM)
Pricing wise I would say due to local suppliers la, they might want to earn more, thats why the pricing here is ridiculous.

But if you ask me,  game developers are starting to look towarda the advantage of Asyc Compute, I mean, my old card 7950 beating nvidia TITAN on doom vulkan benchmark?

Dude thats the advantage of async compute that any developer would want, because they can deliver better experience to any gamers regardless of their hardware. More gamers=better game sales

Of course nvidia have money and power, heck their pascals dont even need asyc compute to beat any AMD cards.

But for those who are budget conscious who cant afford to drop 2 k on gpu, that asyc compute is a freakin saviour bro. You can spend less on a card that works great on budget 1080p monitor, to me thats a bargain.

Dont get me wrong though, NVIDIA CARDS ARE THE KING. u gotta pay the king with royal price to get his service la.
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That true, the point stand if we are in the USA. Asyc compute can bring RX 480 to GTX 980 performance. But there are the limit.

RM 1299/1399 will bring you to
- half-bake vulkan (you bought now, may be have to suffer for most of the title for a while)
- max or slightly unleashed to equal GTX 980
- near zero OC capability
- uncertain sweet spot for 1080p gaming, may still suffer uncomfortable min fps, i believe future AAA title still pushing the graphic limit, stay in the mid-end card, asyc compute still cant bring you there.

If the card selling below RM1000 in malaysia, then we have something to convince ourself to get it. If not , i rather top slightly to get 1070 for 1080p gaming. Or next AMD card, but not this bad standing RX 480.
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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Jul 19 2016, 01:02 AM)
RX 480 4GB version is great if its less than RM1k ...
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In fact it is priced at rm 800-1000 in the US.

Msia? Hambik rm1.3k, tammau beli sudah bro.

But what todo, they have to pay gst, shipping and whatnot.
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post Jul 19 2016, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Jul 19 2016, 01:02 AM)
RX 480 4GB version is great if its less than RM1k ...
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you will see seller download more ram and sell it like 8 gb version sweat.gif

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QUOTE(babykids @ Jul 19 2016, 01:07 AM)
That true, the point stand if we are in the USA. Asyc compute can bring RX 480 to GTX 980 performance. But there are the limit.

RM 1299/1399 will bring you to
- half-bake vulkan (you bought now, may be have to suffer for most of the title for a while)
- max or slightly unleashed to equal GTX 980
- near zero OC capability
- uncertain sweet spot for 1080p gaming, may still suffer uncomfortable min fps, i believe future AAA title still pushing the graphic limit, stay in the mid-end card, asyc compute still cant bring you there.

If the card selling below RM1000 in malaysia, then we have something to convince ourself to get it. If not , i rather top slightly to get 1070 for 1080p gaming. Or next AMD card, but not this bad standing RX 480.
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Thats why im contemplating to get AMD rx480, because i know damn sure AMD will release a better RX variant after they released the lower end like 470 and 460.

Just like they do with Fury cards last time.

Plus the pricing of RX480 is very expensive, but considerable since the local markets here might not be enough for a fully licensed distributor to survive If they match the US retails.

And of course we all can take the best solution and buy Pascals, but it seems overkill if play at 1080p monitor.

So yeah, will have to wait further before deciding, but for now I am more interested on what Async Compute can bring us in the future.

Since I dont play games that much like before, I always have that half a year gap before buying new games (heck i still havent finish witcher 3 or doom). So by the time I buy latest games most probabbly they already fully utilize dx12 or vulkan.

And due to this also i damn scared to jump back to nvidia, since the cards does not age well compared to AMD, once u jump, be ready for yearly or dual yearly card upgrade to maintain the performance.

I remembered it was this year I wanted to get gtx970, and look at current situation when dx12 and async compute implemented? Wooh damn lucky i didnt make the jump and wait further.

Well thats just me personally, I prefer long term usage than top performer, so far AMD cards does age very well. Their drivers seems to keep old cards like mine performing as good as current gens.

But for those who have money and heavy gamers, I think NVIDIA can help them getting the best performing card currently.

This post has been edited by NUR_VER.3: Jul 19 2016, 01:27 AM
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post Jul 19 2016, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Jul 19 2016, 01:25 AM)
Thats why im contemplating to get AMD rx480, because i know damn sure AMD will release a better RX variant after they released the lower end like 470 and 460.

Just like they do with Fury cards last time.

Plus the pricing of RX480 is very expensive, but considerable since the local markets here might not be enough for a fully licensed distributor to survive If they match the US retails.

And of course we all can take the best solution and buy Pascals, but it seems overkill if play at 1080p monitor.

So yeah, will have to wait further before deciding, but for now I am more interested on what Async Compute can bring us in the future.

Since I dont play games that much like before, I always have that half a year gap before buying new games (heck i still havent finish witcher 3 or doom). So by the time I buy latest games most probabbly they already fully utilize dx12 or vulkan.

And due to this also i damn scared to jump back to nvidia, since the cards does not age well compared to AMD, once u jump, be ready for yearly or dual yearly card upgrade to maintain the performance.

I remembered it was this year I wanted to get gtx970, and look at current situation when dx12 and async compute implemented? Wooh damn lucky i didnt make the jump and wait further.

Well thats just me personally, I prefer long term usage than top performer, so far AMD cards does age very well. Their drivers seems to keep old cards like mine performing as good as current gens.

But for those who have money and heavy gamers, I think NVIDIA cant help them getting the best performing card currently.
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nod.gif i have same feeling in this too. Leading product have this issue, limit the old card, force you to upgrade. The tactic always work. sweat.gif

when you are number 2, you will try harder. No doubt.
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QUOTE(babykids @ Jul 19 2016, 01:31 AM)
nod.gif i have same feeling in this too. Leading product have this issue, limit the old card, force you to upgrade. The tactic always work. sweat.gif

when you are number 2, you will try harder. No doubt.
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yeah agreed, amd have to work harder, thanks to that they are killing it in dx12
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if want to bet on vulkan, this one is the right choice. Hope the price is about the same as reference.

https://www.lowyat.net/2016/109684/asus-det...-graphics-card/

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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Jul 19 2016, 01:25 AM)
Thats why im contemplating to get AMD rx480, because i know damn sure AMD will release a better RX variant after they released the lower end like 470 and 460.

Just like they do with Fury cards last time.

Plus the pricing of RX480 is very expensive, but considerable since the local markets here might not be enough for a fully licensed distributor to survive If they match the US retails.

And of course we all can take the best solution and buy Pascals, but it seems overkill if play at 1080p monitor.

So yeah, will have to wait further before deciding, but for now I am more interested on what Async Compute can bring us in the future.

Since I dont play games that much like before, I always have that half a year gap before buying new games (heck i still havent finish witcher 3 or doom). So by the time I buy latest games most probabbly they already fully utilize dx12 or vulkan.

And due to this also i damn scared to jump back to nvidia, since the cards does not age well compared to AMD, once u jump, be ready for yearly or dual yearly card upgrade to maintain the performance.

I remembered it was this year I wanted to get gtx970, and look at current situation when dx12 and async compute implemented? Wooh damn lucky i didnt make the jump and wait further.

Well thats just me personally, I prefer long term usage than top performer, so far AMD cards does age very well. Their drivers seems to keep old cards like mine performing as good as current gens.

But for those who have money and heavy gamers, I think NVIDIA can help them getting the best performing card currently.
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If you like GTX 970 ... you can just grab R9 290x or 390x ... they are on the same level ... but more future proof with proper DX12 Async Compute.
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QUOTE(babykids @ Jul 19 2016, 01:36 AM)
if want to bet on vulkan, this one is the right choice. Hope the price is about the same as reference.

https://www.lowyat.net/2016/109684/asus-det...-graphics-card/
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wooh thats awesome, cant wait to see the benchmarks
QUOTE(luqmanz @ Jul 19 2016, 01:43 AM)
If you like GTX 970 ... you can just grab R9 290x or 390x ... they are on the same level ... but more future proof with proper DX12 Async Compute.
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been thinking about that too, but lets see the aftermarket rx480 performs first.
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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Jul 19 2016, 02:08 AM)
wooh thats awesome, cant wait to see the benchmarks

been thinking about that too, but lets see the aftermarket rx480 performs first.
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when reviews for aftermarket 1060 comes out tomorrow, they will be compared to the performance of a reference RX480 with subpar OC/cooler because that's the only 480 to compare to. it would've been better if there were custom 480s to compete with.

but AMD delay even more doh.gif i guess the damage will already be done by then, it's a little too late.
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well the pricing is out. Rm 1399 Zotac amp! edition
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Hey guys,since the GTX 1060 is faster than GTX 980,does that mean that the GTX 1060 is GTX 980Ti with an affordable price and best VR performance?

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