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Asus ASUS Zenfone 3/3 Deluxe/3 Ultra ~ Discussion ~, The hype of 6GB RAM is here
Asus ASUS Zenfone 3/3 Deluxe/3 Ultra ~ Discussion ~, The hype of 6GB RAM is here
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Oct 21 2016, 09:53 AM
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Distributors eat lots of profit for RM2599...
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Oct 21 2016, 09:58 AM
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One forumer WA me he only paid RM 2399 for it from Seven Mobile his ZF3 Deluxe ( 6gb ram/64GB ) version
It is sad that till now many still think Asus is an inferior brand in smartphones My perception of it has change drastically after experiencing the ZF3 Ultra - a simply magnificent piece of gadget. I still feel it is worth its asking price though many still think is pricy This post has been edited by benny888: Oct 21 2016, 10:01 AM |
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Oct 21 2016, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Oct 21 2016, 09:58 AM) One forumer WA me he only paid RM 2399 for it from Seven Mobile his ZF3 Deluxe ( 6gb ram/64GB ) version Yup It is sad that till now many still think Asus is an inferior brand in smartphones My perception of it has change drastically after experiencing the ZF3 Ultra - a simply magnificent piece of gadget. I still feel it is worth its asking price though many still think is pricy Asus is definitely a superior brand by any means. They just lack of marketing like Sony |
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Oct 21 2016, 11:06 AM
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My son is using ASUS Zenfone 2, and its a good phone.
Fast and reliable. ASUS is a good choice for mobile phone. |
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Oct 21 2016, 12:05 PM
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Oct 24 2016, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(chinkw1 @ Oct 21 2016, 11:06 AM) My son is using ASUS Zenfone 2, and its a good phone. for me, I think zenfone 2 is a failed phone cause of the intel SoC. For a 1 year old phone, it is laggy and it's camera also is bad.Fast and reliable. ASUS is a good choice for mobile phone. I think Asus learned from that mistake hence they improved a lot based on past mistakes. They improved the SoC, camera and design. All of which were the top issues with Zenfone 2. |
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Oct 24 2016, 12:47 PM
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Two things that made me stay away from Asus Zenfone is the non-back lit keypad and the amount of bloatwares it comes with.. I still can't fathom why Asus is still adamant in 'keeping' this two features
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Oct 24 2016, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(abubin @ Oct 24 2016, 12:20 PM) for me, I think zenfone 2 is a failed phone cause of the intel SoC. For a 1 year old phone, it is laggy and it's camera also is bad. IMO, if intel hadn't stopped supplying atom soc this time around, we would have seen ZF3 with intel in it. may be Asus would have gone with Snapdragon SOCs anyway, but i think they would still have ZF3 versions with intel.I think Asus learned from that mistake hence they improved a lot based on past mistakes. They improved the SoC, camera and design. All of which were the top issues with Zenfone 2. |
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Oct 26 2016, 09:37 PM
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Oct 26 2016, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(teckyang97 @ Oct 20 2016, 11:02 PM) That wasn't my point, my point was even other more expensive phone than Zenfone 3 Deluxe gets more sales and hype than Asus, I do believe that branding matters a lot, but for RM2599 is actually quite normal for the specs, like I said, people are more willing to pay more for lower end specs, why they're not willing to pay for Zenfone 3 Deluxe? Zenfone 3 Deluxe is very very cheap considering crappy Zenfone Ultra with crappy redmi note 3 processor selling at RM2599. QUOTE(benny888 @ Oct 21 2016, 09:58 AM) One forumer WA me he only paid RM 2399 for it from Seven Mobile his ZF3 Deluxe ( 6gb ram/64GB ) version Sorry, your opinion on what asking price for a phone will not be in consideration for 99.9% of people in this forum and you know it. LOLIt is sad that till now many still think Asus is an inferior brand in smartphones My perception of it has change drastically after experiencing the ZF3 Ultra - a simply magnificent piece of gadget. I still feel it is worth its asking price though many still think is pricy QUOTE(imin @ Oct 24 2016, 12:47 PM) Two things that made me stay away from Asus Zenfone is the non-back lit keypad and the amount of bloatwares it comes with.. I still can't fathom why Asus is still adamant in 'keeping' this two features For me, I stay away from Asus because it always restarted for no reason. Padfone and Zenfone 2 also the same. |
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Oct 26 2016, 09:44 PM
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For those who plan to buy Zenfone 3, i can say this is a good phone for mid range. I know some will say expansive but in term of quality it is good (Not applicable to Imported Set).
ASUS phone have this "Auto-Start manager" which is very useful but other phones do not have this feature, correct me if there is other brand have this feature xD This is why i pick ASUS because i installed a lot of apps/games I think they will drop the price because new XiaoMi is launched =O By the way, anyone here bought Deluxe version with SD821? is it good? This post has been edited by williamstans: Oct 26 2016, 09:46 PM |
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Oct 26 2016, 09:47 PM
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QUOTE(williamstans @ Oct 26 2016, 09:44 PM) For those who plan to buy Zenfone 3, i can say this is a good phone for mid range. I know some will say expansive but in term of quality it is good (Not applicable to Imported Set). Of course got Auto-start manager. Every China phone also got auto-start manager ranging from Xiaomi to others.ASUS phone have this "Auto-Start manager" which is very useful but other phones do not have this feature, correct me if there is other brand have this feature xD This is why i pick ASUS because i installed a lot of apps/games I think they will drop the price because new XiaoMi is launched =O By the way, anyone here bought Deluxe version with SD821? is it good? Unfortunately Zenfone 3 is using low end processor for midrange price. They should at least use SD652. But no. They rather use crappy processor like SD625. |
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Oct 26 2016, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Oct 26 2016, 09:47 PM) Of course got Auto-start manager. Every China phone also got auto-start manager ranging from Xiaomi to others. but not really effective as zenfone one mah my friend and not all have la xD Unfortunately Zenfone 3 is using low end processor for midrange price. They should at least use SD652. But no. They rather use crappy processor like SD625. By the way Zenfone Ultra SD652 and Redmi Note 3 is SD 650 different wor SD625 is consider the best among the mid range However i do agree that Asus should use SD 652 to win this market but mid range nowadays all use SD625 la, i think u come here to kacau one, everything also crappy then which one is the best for u? xD Please i need those who really used Zenfone 3 Deluxe give some opinions. This post has been edited by williamstans: Oct 26 2016, 10:07 PM |
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Oct 27 2016, 12:22 AM
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QUOTE(williamstans @ Oct 26 2016, 10:58 PM) but not really effective as zenfone one mah my friend and not all have la xD Got it on Tuesday.By the way Zenfone Ultra SD652 and Redmi Note 3 is SD 650 different wor SD625 is consider the best among the mid range However i do agree that Asus should use SD 652 to win this market but mid range nowadays all use SD625 la, i think u come here to kacau one, everything also crappy then which one is the best for u? xD Please i need those who really used Zenfone 3 Deluxe give some opinions. SD821/256GB/6GB RAM Design wise top notch. Did a little benchmark, antutu score was a little over 145k. Although 'only' 1080p, screen is great. Speaker is above average but listening FLAC music with my Sony MDR-1A is a pleasure. Have not checked the SOT yet. Didn't really have the time to check it but so far I am satisfied. Will I recommend it to anyone? Not to someone who is budget conscious. |
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Oct 27 2016, 09:12 AM
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Oct 26 2016, 09:47 PM) Of course got Auto-start manager. Every China phone also got auto-start manager ranging from Xiaomi to others. this is why smartphone nowadays to me does not differ much one with the other. for example, with the auto-start manager thing - you can get apps for it if you don't already have it. the apps will have different features, sure, but you basically get it to do the same things. on the extreme end, you can modify the software and strip it down so that they all become essentially the same.Unfortunately Zenfone 3 is using low end processor for midrange price. They should at least use SD652. But no. They rather use crappy processor like SD625. once you "match" all the apps, the main differentiating factors that remain will be the design (physical) and its specs. SD625 is no doubt on the lower end of the midrange group. however, i have a feeling it was designed that way so that qualcomm has an option for SOC that leverages power-efficiency, instead of just "power" I have a feeling Asus took the decision to use SD625 consciously. I mean, they probably were aiming to make the ZF3 power efficient. for performance, they covered it with other ZF3 variants. however, for people who don't actually make use of the more powerful socs like SD650 or even SD821, like me obviously, SD625 is just the right choice. only thing is, I think that ZF3 is overpriced. I'd like to buy it, but I refrain from it since I can get the Mi 5 (xiaomi official version) for 1399 now. |
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Oct 27 2016, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE(abu.shofwan @ Oct 27 2016, 09:12 AM) this is why smartphone nowadays to me does not differ much one with the other. for example, with the auto-start manager thing - you can get apps for it if you don't already have it. the apps will have different features, sure, but you basically get it to do the same things. on the extreme end, you can modify the software and strip it down so that they all become essentially the same. Total nailed it broonce you "match" all the apps, the main differentiating factors that remain will be the design (physical) and its specs. SD625 is no doubt on the lower end of the midrange group. however, i have a feeling it was designed that way so that qualcomm has an option for SOC that leverages power-efficiency, instead of just "power" I have a feeling Asus took the decision to use SD625 consciously. I mean, they probably were aiming to make the ZF3 power efficient. for performance, they covered it with other ZF3 variants. however, for people who don't actually make use of the more powerful socs like SD650 or even SD821, like me obviously, SD625 is just the right choice. only thing is, I think that ZF3 is overpriced. I'd like to buy it, but I refrain from it since I can get the Mi 5 (xiaomi official version) for 1399 now. |
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Oct 27 2016, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(abu.shofwan @ Oct 27 2016, 09:12 AM) this is why smartphone nowadays to me does not differ much one with the other. for example, with the auto-start manager thing - you can get apps for it if you don't already have it. the apps will have different features, sure, but you basically get it to do the same things. on the extreme end, you can modify the software and strip it down so that they all become essentially the same. i agree the price of ZF3 is a bit on the high side. But not that terribly expensive. Cause it really have good quality built and SD625 is really not that bad. once you "match" all the apps, the main differentiating factors that remain will be the design (physical) and its specs. SD625 is no doubt on the lower end of the midrange group. however, i have a feeling it was designed that way so that qualcomm has an option for SOC that leverages power-efficiency, instead of just "power" I have a feeling Asus took the decision to use SD625 consciously. I mean, they probably were aiming to make the ZF3 power efficient. for performance, they covered it with other ZF3 variants. however, for people who don't actually make use of the more powerful socs like SD650 or even SD821, like me obviously, SD625 is just the right choice. only thing is, I think that ZF3 is overpriced. I'd like to buy it, but I refrain from it since I can get the Mi 5 (xiaomi official version) for 1399 now. I got it from Digi with subscription packages so had some discount on the phone. That is worth it for me else I would not have bought that phone. Comparing between mi5 and zf3 5.2", I would not mind going for zf3 cause it is better looking than mi5 and personally, I am not a fan of miui. |
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Oct 27 2016, 07:29 PM
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Xiao Mi SC sux
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Oct 28 2016, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(Tuyin @ Oct 27 2016, 12:22 AM) Got it on Tuesday. Deluxe Special Edition right ? RM3699 right ?SD821/256GB/6GB RAM Design wise top notch. Did a little benchmark, antutu score was a little over 145k. Although 'only' 1080p, screen is great. Speaker is above average but listening FLAC music with my Sony MDR-1A is a pleasure. Have not checked the SOT yet. Didn't really have the time to check it but so far I am satisfied. Will I recommend it to anyone? Not to someone who is budget conscious. |
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Oct 28 2016, 11:25 PM
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