if proton not supplying, sure not demanding... we buy watever proton offering...

No way. If we don't want, we won't buy la.

its becoz u guys do not know how to drive auto.. that u get crappy performances

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Added on March 8, 2007, 6:47 pmu think uato g/b cannot do left foot braking??

This post has been edited by miragers: Mar 8 2007, 06:47 PM

Auto of course can.
But that I think is about it, also handbrake turn. For other tricks, like burnouts, you gotta have one hell of an engine to smoke your tyres with an auto.

But the point is why do you wanna do burnouts with a weak car?

Meh, just for kicks.
At least I can do it even with puny torque.

that depends on how good u r at launching.

try releasing ur hbrake around 4krpm.. put gear D,

one thing can guarante.. manual tranny if tak pandai do hbrake turns and donuts.. sure mati enjin.

i notice on the othe thread that u don't even have ur license yet.

i hope u try with your own experience b4 misleading ppl here.

This post has been edited by miragers: Mar 9 2007, 12:18 AM

You'll only stall the engine if you do a handbrake turn with a rear-wheel-drive car without depressing the clutch.

I don't have a license, but driving skill sudah ada.
Not them fancy schmancy skills like heel and toe and all, just that I can drive.

This post has been edited by tunertoobe: Mar 9 2007, 12:27 AM

bold answer, just like me when i was taking my license..

bout the hbrake turn thing... tell me after u do it urself.. i guess u've nvr try it out yet.

theory is not enough.

Well, it's only logical innit?
Handbrakes are mostly engaged at the rear wheels. With the handbrakes on, without pressing the clutch, the engine would surely stall, right?

where got ppl do hanbrake turns and donut without depressing clutch?

even hell toe needs the clutch.

But even if you don't use the clutch(other than using it to change to a lower gear), I'd imagine an FWD won't stall like you said it would. For a rear wheel drive car, I'm positive it will.

to prevent engine from stalling after stunts is to know how to control the rev.. if u don maintain ur rev after hbrake turn or donuts.. ur car will stall. coz ur rev will go down fast.

Do burnout of coz can, But the thing is youre gonna kill your gearbox faster than anything

thats bcoz KL city owiz jammed up all the time so whats the point of manual if u keep on changing gear every 30 seconds n not able 2 revved up the full power of yr car that is y auto is more preferred 4 big bosses than manual n i can bet with y'all that 99% of rich uncles cant even change gear properly like nuts

This post has been edited by skylinegtr34rule4life: Mar 10 2007, 02:15 PM

this one of coz la

now, if I can afford to possess 2 cars.....

Most ideal scenario (for me),
AUTO car NEW used for daily drive, long distance n outings.

MANUAL car OLD, modded/track car spec, for weekend trackdays and late nite drives......no power windows, no power steering, no air-cond, slicks, roll-cage optional....

no matter how petrolhead u are, u will soon realise stucked in everyday jams with heavy clutches, high cams, high comp. pistons is a nightmare. Long distance travel in full bucket seat, with a straight flow exhaust is not funny either...

facts

auto cars have most accesories and gadgets as compared to manual cars. auto cars has a higher resell value due to most continental and american cars has it even though FC is higher. auto cars means you can do less while drive your car. perfect for both gender worlds. so ladies will enjoy driving too. auto cars means you don't need to think on which gear to shift or mis shift on reverse gears. auto cars looks more classy in the interior, both the stick and the dashboard's indicator. auto cars have one thing that manual tranny doesn't have, vehicle wheel lock when shifted to park. this means your car will remain stationary even if you forgot to pull your handbrake when stopping on a slope. auto cars ensures that you dun over rev, unless you pedal hard. auto cars have speed cuts, making sure you don't reach the speed limit.

i've lost touched on manual. but that doesn't mean i cannot drive manual. my preference will be on those with double transmission. i hate clutching, but the auto transmission cannot sustain brutal driving condition, so duo transmission is my choice. its the future of new car's technology

If you live in a place with a lot of traffic lights and jams, you WILL want an auto.

been driving both transmissions from 2003, and i can say that driving the manual transmission car is more exciting..
for me, auto or manual doesnt really have the influence on the FC much when it comes to long travel..

manual is fun, but we will suffer when we facing the traffic jam