Hi sifus, as a start up for wedding photography, is RM10k sufficient enough to buy some decent gear?

If yes, what would it be? Which body and lens that you recommend and why?

It will be used for actual wedding/dinner.. Not pre-wedding..

Thanks yall in advance..

some would say 70-200 f4 L cos it's lighter than below

some would say 70-200 f2.8 L for its low light as you will be shooting indoors

body wise 70d is a very capable camera

If you are open to used and not new, can get the combo
1) Canon 6D + 24-70 F2.8 Mk2 + 430EXII
2) Nikon equivalent of the above

for starting, ok la.

my gear
nikon d610
nikkor 24-70mm
nikkor 24mm, 50mm, 85mm
sb700


i think canon is user friendly.
10k,

suggest u buy 5dmkiii + 35mm + 50mm + speedlight canon 580ex

and a pc for post editing.

full frame body + 24-70 + 50/1.4 + flash (highest GN you can afford).

or

apsc body + 16-50 + 35/1.8

couple of spare batteries.

p/s: this is just the 'starter pack'

This post has been edited by lwliam: Apr 20 2016, 09:32 AM

Hmmmm curious.

understand the lowlight on f2.8

But usually shooting for still shot, it doesnt affect much cause you got flash.

If you are saying indoor + filming video. f2.8 is ideal, however i dont see the why choose f2.8 over f4 with price point almost double if you are just shooting still

Maybe i am wrong??

This post has been edited by munak991: Apr 20 2016, 11:37 AM

DoF reasons

as long it fits the budget.. i wouldnt mind

Preferably new but used is okay too..


I'm a nikon user myself so most probably will get back nikon..

PC for post editing already got...

noted..

but why no one mentioned wide angle lens?

You'll need to increase your budget if you want wide angle lens as well..
Unless you don't mind going for a slightly lower range lens on cropped body:
Canon 80D + 10-16mm + 17-55 f2.8 + 430exIII

You can get the above slightly above 10k new

or replace the 17-55 with 18-135 for below 8k total, but lose the f2.8

This post has been edited by Lego Warfare: Apr 20 2016, 10:25 PM

Notice I said 'starter pack'?

This post has been edited by lwliam: Apr 20 2016, 11:00 PM

Wide-angle for weddings - they can produce quite some nice composition but you won't be using it much so it would be DLC. : (get it?)

As what lwliam said - starter pack.

A good starter combo would be stuff like Canon EOS 70D + 17-40 F4L + 70-200 F4L + 1 flash unit, get a Canon unit with as high a GN as you can afford.

EOS 70D would provide far better AFing than many camera models out there.

Different people have different preference... probably can start with just one mid zoom.. the more u shoot the more u will realize your "sweet" focal length thus the lens u need.

For me , I love 16-35mm F4L VR (Just purchased 2nd hand) & 85mm lens. I Owned canon 16-35 before.

This post has been edited by OOtaii: Apr 21 2016, 12:46 AM

Cause your job at wedding is to capture the wedding not landscape. Not saying ultra wide in wedding is useless if you have creative mind but if given the budget, I would rather go for conventional focal lens first.

This post has been edited by DaddyO: Apr 21 2016, 08:51 AM

good sir.

D810 is good enough unless you want a high end crop which is d500.

Full Frame body+ 24-70 F/2.8 + a proper flash is all you need, but finding all these brand new with 10k is insufficient

You don't need FF body to do wedding photography.

DSLR with good dynamic range. (FF or HF)
17-40mm,24-70mm,70-200mm

Genuine Speedlite Flash (one is enough)
Slave for portable flash angle.

You're done.
All you need now is subscribe KelbyOne or CreativeLive online class to understand the fundamentalism of Wedding Photography. You can pay monthly and it's reasonable.

Decided to go for D750 + 24-120F4

Both at RM7.8k.. What do u guys think?

That's an excellent setup, just get yourself a flash and you're good to go.

Thank god goldie approves...
Yep, will get an SB900 with the remaining budget..

Because I've been using it for almost 2 years, love it.

SB900 discon already wor. Don't forget to add batteries into your budget

good ! way to go and start it

2 unit Pentax K5IIs (if you can even find 1)
1 unit Tamron 17-50 f2.8
1 unit Pentax DA 50 f1.8 or Sigma 35 f1.4
1 unit Yongnuo flash
2 additional K5IIs Battery

Just my 0.2 cents.

This post has been edited by flamestudio: Jul 4 2016, 02:33 AM

Hmm... i am curious why nobody recommend sony professional mirrorless like A7 series?

The AF is not as decent as high end DSLR and battery life is lacking.
The image quality is alright though.

Yes, in all fairness the mirrorless cameras are capable but they're not quite there yet against the AF capability of DSLR models, even semi-pro models.

I do know some pro photographers use Fujifilm X series for wedding photography, comes to events they pre-focus rather than AF track.

Battery life is a concern because at full charge, a mirrorless probably does 300 - 400 shots while an SLR could do 800 - 1000 range.

Huh, u sure about that? I am not user of A7 series, but in survey to buy one. Maybe u guy had used that, is it the AF really that bad compare to DSLR? Even the high end A7r ii which has 399 points of phase detection AF? Sorry, I never heard about their AF problem... This is first time I heard A7 series has AF weakness...

We didn't say it's not good. We said it's NOT QUITE THERE when compared to DSLR systems.

In case you didn't get it yet - it's good BUT under more challenging conditions, the DSLR still comes out tops.

Some articles like this will lend you some confidence though, they can focus well.

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/688439175...-af-performance

However A7R II is a beast, and in my opinion you can't use it s a representation of all other mirrorless cameras out there. Mind you the A7R II alone on sites like BHPhoto is priced at $3,198.00 for the body alone.

Another thing to point out is that the AF in that article above is stationary subject and controlled lighting condition.

When you shoot at wedding events, subjects are moving and lighting condition often changes, that's where the challenge comes in.

399 points merely talking about coverage point of AF.....which is totally useless unless you like to focus on stuff very close to the edge. And the reason mirrorless suck at AF compared to dslr cause dslr has dedicated AF system separate from the sensor unlike mirrorless.

But around this time, mirrorless AF is pretty close to dslr like the a6000 series, unless you bring out 7DmkII, D500, and those D5, 1DX camera you can buy small car with. And depends on users' need, you may not even need that much autofocus speed if you primarily just shoot normal stuff....like wedding.

This post has been edited by DaddyO: Jul 4 2016, 09:37 PM

this kind of topic always lead to nice arguments.... let me chip in some..

a great sifu can shoot a wedding with just RM 2k gear.

anything else are marketing talk. or lame excuses to bash/brag over others.

and people who never uses the said camera but can claim to know battery power range or the AF so well, i salute you, your words means nothing.

the said NP-FW50 Battery (sony mirrorless camera battery) are cliam by TIPA with 300-350 shots, same like canikon TIPA claims around ranging from 400 to 700, but in real life, if canikon can hit 800-1400 shoots (double of TIPA claim), and i did manage to hit 800+shot with a single NP-FW50 Battery with a nex3(C i think) during my trip to china in autumn (cold), and 2000 shot with a single NP-FW50 Battery with A55 during a 2 hours fashion show shoot. maybe i brought a spoil battery with extra capacity?

as for the AF, when subject move out of my 5D3 af point, my 5D3 goes hunting again which is annoying, where else the A7R2 399 tracks it nicely(friends unit during wedding), i mean seriously crazy! and smooth! no wonder so many pro are switching to sony system now... maybe i should too.

win some, lose some.

Not really pandai in photography. But i think it is all in preference and what you comfortable to use. During my wedding, it was shot with 2 XT-1, and 2 fullframes. Still the outcome of the albums are to my satisfaction both as a customer and also as someone who knows a lil bit about photography

Don't like that la. Information also come from other users mah.

If you say like that then your sharing also pointless, because we can't use it........... because we have to buy our own only our words mean something.

My info comes from actual pro wedding photographer who went from DSLR to Sony mirrorless to now Fujifilm range.

im not really quoting you, but then a lot ppl like to 'spread speculation' without first hand experience bah.... its like a guy who never drive the ferrari but claim as if he know every fuel consumption to power ratio to the amount of grip the tyre could take before he crash the whole car. would you talk about the ferrari as if you know them then? or speculate what was hear from people said about the car? its unhealthy malaysian culture it has to stop and change.