This looks neat

Finally jumped the gun to buy a USB C, Sandisk pendrive. Works as expected, my Huawei P10 Plus and Macbook 12" identify the pendrive easily. Transfer feels fast and hopefully it last. Got it for RM30 after using my 11street credits, so it's still quite good.



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can get from aliexpress.com

is there any significant difference between 2015 and 2016, 2016 and 2017 model? which one do you guys recommend to get? can this macbook 12 inch handle autodesk softwares?

This post has been edited by CrabNian: Sep 4 2017, 03:18 AM

certainly cannot. 13-inch MBP is a better choice. Forget about 12-inch macbook unless u Super Super Super Super Super needs the smaller form factor and lighter weight.

totally cannot or just there will be some lagging? how about photoshop and league of legend if i'm planning to get it for casual usage? wanted to try mac for so long but might not be spending so much for MBP first in case i can't get used to macOS

Hey there westlife - Would the 12" Macbook not be suitable for autodesk even at maxed out specs (i7, 16GB, 512GB)? I believe the storage and RAM is fine, so the bottleneck being the processor?

of course it is not totally cannot, but it is more of lagging.
like i said, unless you really really really really really really really need the smaller form factor or lighter weight or unless you are really not going to do any heavy tasks on the machine, it is not worthy.
unless this is really your second machine and NOT primary machine.

photoshop or games no brainer can perform better on 13-inch MBP.

My past experience with my ex 2016 macbook m5 is that the bottleneck is the cpu and not the memory. 8gb ram is really more than sufficient for general tasks unless one runs VMs on the machine. But if that is the case, 12-inch macbook the processing power will not be able to cope well due to the throttling.

1) I had used the macbook for one year, I could say that I had faced the bottleneck issues on the processing power quite often even with not heavy metal tasks but just multi-tasking. This is the main reason I switched to MacBook Pro as I can foresee I will have issues with the processing power in near future.

2) The single port will become bottleneck soon as well and most importantly the USB-c port is not even gen 2 and no thunderbolt 3 supported which it is not future proof.

3) The Retina display on it is ok but it lacks of the p3 Color gamut and 500 nits brightness on the MacBook Pro which it is quite a difference in terms of screen quality.

4) I compare the 2016 macbook m5 to the 2015 retina MacBook Pro base model 256gb version with base clock rate of 2.7Ghz, it is few times snappier than it.

5) The main deal breaker in my 2 cents is that the price point between the two MacBooks are way too closed which it makes the 12-inch macbook kind of overpriced based on what one will get from it. Other than ultra slim and light form factor, the 13-inch is certainly better bang for bucks.

6) One more thing is that the resale value of 12-inch macbook is a lot poorer than the 13-inch MacBook Pro, worse part is the market is a lot smaller for resell which it is much harder to find buyer despite the already Low price tag.

totally no if u ask me. 3d design such as autodesk you are better off even with the base model of 13-inch MBP (not even max out) than the max out 12-inch MB.

yes, bottleneck is processor. dun just look at the turbo boost. over the years, from 2015 to now 2017, the 12-inch macbook performance has improved a lot, this is certainly true. but one must consider the processor architecture. the core m processor simply does not suitable for heavy task.

seriously even u upgraded to the i7 (renamed of the m7 for kabe lake), it is still core m, and it is not going to sustain the turbo boost power for long that is sufficient for you to do heavy tasks.

ram does not make a big difference even you upgraded to 16gb unless you run VMs or video editing, else u do not really take advantage of it. and given the processing power of the 12-inch macbook, no point to upgrade to 16gb in my two cents. 16gb is future proof for sure, but seriously no point to do it on 12-inch macbook.

if you really plan to max out, it means that you think that you will need a lot of processing power, u will certainly be better off with 13-inch nTB maxout too (i7 16gb ram 512gb).
no point to invest such money in my view.

I always think that one wants to get the 12-inch macbook is really for those who has super light workflow (web surfing/productivity etc), certainly not for any heavy task.

This post has been edited by westlife: Sep 4 2017, 06:04 PM

Hey, thanks for the response westlife. Valuable insights - I indeed wasn't aware the Macbook i7 proc being the Y variant. Was hoping for U.

To be honest I am steering away from the MBP as I would like a form factor giving <1KG total weight. Unfortunately seems that Apple does not have something I want for the moment.

Form factor and weight is always opposite to the processing power. This theory stays always.
Most of the time, you can only have one of them and not both certainly.

Watch this YouTube video will give your more insights.


This post has been edited by westlife: Sep 4 2017, 06:04 PM

Within the Apple family in this case, yea. There are a few options but it's beyond this thread, and it isn't MacOS, so a bit of a trade-off I'd need to make.

yup, like me who is in apple ecosystem. the choice is a no brainer.

man you're really informative. it might be stupid to ask here at mac's forum but would a razer blade stealth worth the penny more? by just looking at the specs, disregarding the OS

This post has been edited by CrabNian: Sep 4 2017, 09:49 PM

I could not really comment as I really study much about the brand before.

Bought a i5 Macbook .... so far really depends on your needs,,, the new processor is quite capable... although being Y processor... it will run at 1.2Ghz but can quite Turbo to 3.0 Ghz...it can be quite fast but the issue is heat... my office is quite cold so not much problem there but the processor cannot turbo quite long as easily hit the throttle limit of 95c then you see the processor start to slow down to cool the heat off...

so less demanding task like daily office task is OK... Adobe photoshop is OK still but any heavy task will drive the notebook quite hot... fanless design... but I have a Gaming laptop so any heavy task go to the Gaming unit for heavy lift and I usually leave my macbook to do light task and cloud stuff for office...

macbook pro is better due to its capability.

yes. A lot better

Well if you see my signature I'm a Macbook Pro User for 2 Generations....

I have no regrets moving to Macbook 12"

The new Macbook is thin, light and easy to carry... my productivity increase more vs my macbook pro... as I can carry it around and dont feel heavy...

Power wise it is more than enough for daily task and office processing... I deal with quite load of excel and some graphics so far it handle pretty solid...

If you notice, even you use macbook pro the processor dont always turbo... unless you render 24x7 then you should get a Mac Pro... not a notebook...

I have a Gaming Laptop (Quad Core with Nvidia GTX960m) so this laptop can take the heavy load... my macbook so far still work wonders

loving the new 2.0 butterfly keyboard... feel like mechanical keyboard feel

Also I have consider getting a Macbook Pro 2017 with 128SSD or Macbook 12" i5 with 512ssd...

in the end I take the Macbook i5 512 ssd...

I took 2 month to research it through and make up my purchase... so far no regrets...

Damn this Macbook is so so so light... Screen wise I feel no difference from 13 to 12" ... dont feel smaller...

The speaker is awesome... the new macbook pro too I heard...