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the_aki
post Mar 18 2007, 11:33 AM

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In your opinion, what is the best way to study archi??

Many people insisted joining Matrics because it'll be shorter but I think you'll be wasting one whole year learning nothing associated with Architecture.

I am aiming for Diploma at UTM, but is it possible to change into UM for Part 1? Is it hard? What is the best pathway to go into UM?

I've read through UPU list, UM offers asasi seni bina dan lanskap (or stg between that line, can't rmbr the exact word) What is that? I've never heard of it.
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post Mar 18 2007, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(Jia0924 @ Mar 18 2007, 01:24 AM)
sleep_walkerz, are you a STPM student?
Well,JPA is offering scholarships for both SPM and STPM students.
However, STPM is only offered locally. That means only gives to those who wanna study in local uni. (not overseas)
It will be advertised at the end of the May or June 2007.
This is what I have been told.
Hope this would help.

Azarimy, then if we study in UTM, and graduate in 2012,  would we be accredited by both PAM and RIBA?
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thank u very much for the info , but unfortunately im a SPM leaver~
i will keep an eye on the paper soon......

QUOTE(the_aki @ Mar 18 2007, 11:33 AM)
In your opinion, what is the best way to study archi??

Many people insisted joining Matrics because it'll be shorter but I think you'll be wasting one whole year learning nothing associated with Architecture.

I am aiming for Diploma at UTM, but is it possible to change into UM for Part 1? Is it hard? What is the best pathway to go into UM?

I've read through UPU list, UM offers asasi seni bina dan lanskap (or stg between that line, can't rmbr the exact word) What is that? I've never heard of it.
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well, it seems that u have the same headache like mine.
well...ASASI SAINS in UM are only for bumiputera, so if u're one, go for it!. i guess its like a foundation .
well, my mum wanted me to go to matrix too ...y ?...
1) 1 year shorter
2) government will giv u money ( 1000 for 3 months izit?)
3) easier to go to IPTA
4) easier to score ( donno true anot)
5) cheap

but i have the same thoughts like urs, thinking that its gonna waste time studying random things again. anyway...i cant stand living witout computer ( matrix dont really use pc) well, since we aready have our mindset about wat we want in future, i seriously wanted to go for diploma ( i dont mind waste slightly more time, at least we study more about the arch fields...anyway..the star newspaper once report young grads doesnt mean good worker...or sumthing like tat...lol)
but then....living expenses in kl is high.....its like about rm500 permonth... =_=...
well...the choice is urs, waste more money, or study the way u like ......aihz * headaches* unless find some sponsors....( another slim chance)..

well....does others have any other oppinion .??...plz enlighten us...

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post Mar 18 2007, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(sleep_walkerz @ Mar 18 2007, 02:53 PM)
well...ASASI SAINS in UM are only for bumiputera, so if u're one, go for it!. i guess its like a foundation .
Its actually ASASI ALAM BINA Universiti Malaya. Not asasi sains~

::edit::

I searched around and asasi alam bina is only for Bumis... sorry sleepwalkerz sad.gif

Asasi alam bina

Kursus wajib :
Asas Reka bentuk, Asas Teknologi Binaan, Kajian Alam Sekitar, Ekonomi, Sains dan Matematik

Program-program Ijazah Pertama Yang Layak Dipohon di IPTA :
Seni Bina, Ukur Bahan, Ukur Bangunan dan Pengurusan Harta Tanah.

So my question is, is it good? Is it better to take this than diploma in Architecture in UTM?

This post has been edited by the_aki: Mar 18 2007, 04:21 PM
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post Mar 18 2007, 07:20 PM

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If you are SPM leaver, you could try this:
http://www.jpa.gov.my/info/kursus1.htm

Azarimy, how sure are you that UTM will be accreditted by RIBA ?
Also, I am waiting for your information about Architecture in NUS.

How is it being accreditted?

Is it a right choice if going to NUS?
Is there any difference between Architecture in NUS and the Architecture in local U here?
Do we have to go for interview if applying Arch in NUS?


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post Mar 18 2007, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(Jia0924 @ Mar 18 2007, 07:20 PM)
If you are SPM leaver, you could try this:
http://www.jpa.gov.my/info/kursus1.htm

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erm..sorry for bothering, but the link wont work
...izit for luar negara or dalam negara?
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post Mar 18 2007, 09:05 PM

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azarimy,

let's say if, i was given other course to pursue instead of architecture by UPU, can i take that given course first, and later apply for course change to architecture? isit possible for me to do so? cos I've heard other undergraduates who r able to change course when in unis. if yes, wat r the conditions i need to fulfill?

THX.
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post Mar 19 2007, 01:16 PM

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Is it? then try this:http://esila.jpa.gov.my
I don't know if it could work.If still no, hehehe.. go buy an application form
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post Mar 19 2007, 04:43 PM

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""well, for UTM there are several paths for an accredited architectural degree. lets refer to this diagram:



u can choose path 1, 2, 3, 4 and 6 for a degree of architecture in UTM. however, for A-levels, u will apply directly to UTM and will be dealt with as a case-by-case basis (means u dont apply through UPU).

UTM 1st degree > 2nd degree (refer path 1 and 3 in diagram above)

for the 1st degree (architectural studies) in UTM, the intake quota is 50% matriculation 50% STPM (we dont have a race quota anymore as of 2002, although most will still see matrics is a bumi quota. oh whatever...). chances of getting in is different from year to year, but the average applicant to entry ratio is 15:1. that means every 15 applicants, only 1 gets in.

after finishing of the 1st degree (part 1), students can continue in UTM (2 years), where they have priority over the selection compared to outside applicants (no need UPU, skip interview, skip aptitude test); or students can continue at other local universities offering Part 2 (USM, UiTM and UM - 2 years); or students can apply overseas, to complete their part 2 (2 years).""


wat does NON PART 1 means?? UTM Diploma (Non Part 1)....<<<wat does this mean??i also wanted to study in UTM ...!!


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post Mar 20 2007, 12:27 AM

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Jesse_17,
That 15: 1 ( 15 applicants and only one get it), this statement really scared me . SURE OR NOT!!??


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15:1 wow thats a lot man!!! so not many applicants are accepted to enter utm...no wonder people say its hard to enter.
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post Mar 20 2007, 01:10 AM

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erm..that`s not really what i m asking of!! what i wan to know is this>>>Diploma (Non Part 1)...wat does ``NON PART 1`` means??
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QUOTE(Jesse_17 @ Mar 20 2007, 01:10 AM)
erm..that`s not really what i m asking of!! what i wan to know is this>>>Diploma (Non Part 1)...wat does ``NON PART 1`` means??
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in simple english that means all architecture diplomas except for UITM is not been accredited to Part 1. only the first degree is accredited wif Part 1 and that also depends on whether the school is in the list of accredited schools.


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QUOTE(europology @ Mar 18 2007, 09:05 PM)
azarimy,

let's say if, i was given other course to pursue instead of architecture by UPU, can i take that given course first, and later apply for course change to architecture? isit possible for me to do so? cos I've heard other undergraduates who r able to change course when in unis. if yes, wat r the conditions i need to fulfill?

THX.
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its possible... but that depends on a lot of factors... like whether the course has room to fill u in.and even if it does the slow paperwork will force u to almost certainly miss out a particular semester. MEANING you might hav to extend since u join da class pretty late.

I do have a colleague that change to architecture from engineering course. He is among the top students in our course now.


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QUOTE(Jia0924 @ Mar 18 2007, 07:20 PM)
If you are SPM leaver, you could try this:
http://www.jpa.gov.my/info/kursus1.htm

Is it a right choice if going to NUS?
Is  there any difference between Architecture in NUS and the Architecture in local U here?
Do we have to go for interview if applying Arch in NUS?
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For ur info, NUS architecture course is one of the best in the region. unfortunately the course is not accredited at all wif Part 1 or 2 of the PAM exams.

that means, upon graduation, u'll certainly need a good portfolio and lots of working experience before taking the Part 1 exams followed by Part 2 and Part 3.

Regarding the interview, im not sure about that. Do check up on the Architecture faculty website of NUS to get more infomation.

This post has been edited by xtracooljustin: Mar 20 2007, 05:11 AM
TSazarimy
post Mar 20 2007, 08:33 AM

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bagus, justin, wahai anak muridku!

my opinion is very similar to justin's, so save me the time from repeating myself hehe. so i'm gonna go with other unanswered questions:

QUOTE(the_aki @ Mar 18 2007, 11:33 AM)
In your opinion, what is the best way to study archi??

Many people insisted joining Matrics because it'll be shorter but I think you'll be wasting one whole year learning nothing associated with Architecture.

I am aiming for Diploma at UTM, but is it possible to change into UM for Part 1? Is it hard? What is the best pathway to go into UM?

I've read through UPU list, UM offers asasi seni bina dan lanskap (or stg between that line, can't rmbr the exact word) What is that? I've never heard of it.
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first, i cant answer ur questions without being biased. it really depends on which school u're going to join and finish ur part 2. each of these choices has its own advantage and disadvantages, so i'd suggest careful examination on the pros and cons before making any decisions.

matrics is shorter, yes, but not everybody can enter. also, u will be learning non-related stuffs to architecture.

STPM is longer, but widely accepted internationally AND locally. again, u wont be learning related stuffs.

asasi/foundation in alam bina would provide the fastest way to degree in architecture, and u will immediately learn the built environment in general. but it is university specific, means it is not interchangeable, and only acceptable in THAT particular school ONLY.

diploma gives u the opportunity to dive right into the world of architecture. but it is often not accredited with part 1, but it does give u some sort of closure to continue for part 1 and 2.

QUOTE(the_aki @ Mar 18 2007, 03:04 PM)
Asasi alam bina

Kursus wajib :
Asas Reka bentuk, Asas Teknologi Binaan, Kajian Alam Sekitar, Ekonomi, Sains dan Matematik

Program-program Ijazah Pertama Yang Layak Dipohon di IPTA :
Seni Bina, Ukur Bahan, Ukur Bangunan dan Pengurusan Harta Tanah.

So my question is, is it good? Is it better to take this than diploma in Architecture in UTM?
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as i've mentioned before, foundation and diploma is two different things. foundation introduces u to the built environment in general, not specific to architecture. it's like u want to learn how the brain works, but first u'd have to be introduced to the evolution of human species to the very basic.

diploma gets u immediately into becoming an architect, well more specifically: architect's assistant. but u'll be imbued with specialized skills which is generally what u learn during the first 2 years in degree anyways.

QUOTE(Jia0924 @ Mar 18 2007, 07:20 PM)
Azarimy, how sure are you that UTM will be accreditted by RIBA ?
Also, I am waiting for your information about Architecture in NUS.

How is it being accreditted?


well, i'm pretty sure. it's just a matter of when. RIBA accreditation is a complex process, but very open and actually not hard to do. currently UTM has several of their ex-students in london working on organizing the accreditation process (the ex-students' contribution to the school), so the target is 2010. but then again, UTM graduates have already been working overseas without the need of RIBA. i know there are atleast 30 working in the UK, 10-15 in european countries, about 10 in china/hongkong/korea and a whole bunch of them in singapore. if u ask them, they'll answer "RIBA? no need one!" biggrin.gif

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Is it a right choice if going to NUS?
Is  there any difference between Architecture in NUS and the Architecture in local U here?
Do we have to go for interview if applying Arch in NUS?
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yup, NUS is one of the best schools of architecture in the region, but i'd say hongkong university (HKU) is far superior than NUS. the stuff that they've produced are evolutionary, but NUS markets their products better.

i'm not sure about the interview process though...

QUOTE(Jia0924 @ Mar 20 2007, 12:27 AM)
Jesse_17,
That 15: 1 ( 15 applicants and only one get it), this statement really scared me . SURE OR NOT!!??
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the number's an estimate, give or take 2 or 3 students per year.


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btw , sir ...
u are back to malaysia now ? hardly can contact u already .
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post Mar 20 2007, 02:31 PM

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if i finish my matriculation..can i apply for degree at LUCT??? or if i go study diploma in LUCT ,,wat is the minima requirement??? biggrin.gif

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Can I take SAM after SPM, then go australia University of Technology, Sydnet to study part 1 n part 2 ?

SAM = South Australia Marticulation
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post Mar 20 2007, 03:19 PM

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What is kepujian?

I went through UPU lists and apparently the minimal requirement for most diplomas and foundations in architecture is kepujian in any science subject..

IS that mean I can't apply?? I got all As in SPM except my science subjects (got b3s :<)
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QUOTE(BridgestoneRE711 @ Mar 20 2007, 12:10 PM)
btw , sir ...
u are back to malaysia now ? hardly can contact u already .
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haha... nope. i have a family to take care of. and i went to visit the LUCT london campus a few days back, so i wasnt online.

QUOTE(Jesse_17 @ Mar 20 2007, 02:31 PM)
if i finish my matriculation..can i apply for degree at LUCT??? or if i go study diploma in LUCT ,,wat is the minima requirement??? biggrin.gif
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i'm not sure about LUCT's intake from msian matriculation. i know they openly take STPM and A-levels, but i dont know about matrics.

u can check LUCT's admission requirements here.

QUOTE(lazo @ Mar 20 2007, 03:09 PM)
Can I take SAM after SPM, then go australia University of Technology, Sydnet to study part 1 n part 2 ?

SAM = South Australia Marticulation
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yes ofcourse.

QUOTE(the_aki @ Mar 20 2007, 03:19 PM)
What is kepujian?

I went through UPU lists and apparently the minimal requirement for most diplomas and foundations in architecture is kepujian in any science subject..

IS that mean I can't apply?? I got all As in SPM except my science subjects (got b3s :<)
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kepujian is credit, meaning B3 to C6. cemerlang (distinction) is A1 and A2. sounds really low isnt it? haha...

u're qualified dude. hope right in.
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does architecture same as architectural technology??? i m curious because LUCT and Taylor offers Diploma in Architectural Technology...
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QUOTE(xtracooljustin @ Mar 20 2007, 04:59 AM)
its possible... but that depends on a lot of factors... like whether the course has room to fill u in.and even if it does the slow paperwork will force u to almost certainly miss out a particular semester. MEANING you might hav to extend since u join da class pretty late.

I do have a colleague that change to architecture from engineering course. He is among the top students in our course now.
well, is it hard and difficult to switch? like how well i must do in the exams in order for me to be eligible?

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