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 So you're interested in ARCHITECTURE?, An academic guide to become an Architect

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xtracooljustin
post Mar 15 2007, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(Vanishing @ Mar 15 2007, 06:51 PM)
that sounds great. one more question, is every Architecture course provided in different universities will be calling potential candidates to conduct the interview? cause from i've seen architecture in UM and UPM don't conduct any interview.
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yes ur rite, UM n UPM dun conduct interviews as stated in the UPU forms.

however UM does conduct interview when its considering special case students, ie. those that coming in wif Diploma qualifications.
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post Mar 15 2007, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 15 2007, 08:30 AM)
now u're catching on! biggrin.gif

however, there's also this thing called "dont jump the gun" in architecture. it's good to develop a good sense of design early on, but at the same time, u must always keep an open mind to new things. stuff that u might see as awesome stuff during 1st or 2nd year might be already outdated.

also, a student must be very, very careful not to fall into the niche areas too early. by the time a student graduate, they should be able to cover all the things an architect can do. going into niche area BEFORE u achieve this would mean u wont develop the entire architectural/designer's skills.

for example:

a student wants to jump immediately into design computing. he started using CAD and all other applications to develop his designs in his 2nd year. then by the time he graduates, he realized he wont be able to work with pencils (which is still the fastest way for an architect to communicate with a client). his future boss might not like this, as he would want to be able to send the kid straight away to do an architect's job and not wait for him to retrain himself with pencils!
so keep this in mind: dont jump the gun!
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indeed, i agree with you. My lecture being emphasizing this issue for past 7 month and he said, they want us to use the pencil to tell the as the first basic tool to communicate our design.A pencil is the fundamental of our work ..indeed.. laugh.gif
yea, now designing house, this sems. But the site project isnt fun at all. cry.gif
azarimy, do you study timber design before?

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UTM curriculum encompasses timber and brickwork theoretically and also practically.

in UTM syllabus, we hav constructed wakaf out of timber and did some brickwork. Da only thing we didnt do is concrete work.
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Mar 15 2007, 08:08 PM)
indeed, i agree with you. My lecture being emphasizing this issue for past 7 month and he said, they want us to use the pencil to tell the as the first basic tool to communicate our design.A pencil is the fundamental of our work ..indeed..  laugh.gif
yea, now designing house, this sems. But the site project isnt fun at all. cry.gif
azarimy, do you study timber design before?
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site project is not much fun, i'd admit. but highly necessary exercise.

yup, ofcourse i've studied timber design before wink.gif
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post Mar 15 2007, 09:22 PM

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Thanks, Azarimy, You did give me a big help

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post Mar 16 2007, 02:59 AM

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From the UPU university requirement list,

UM's minimum requirement for STPM students to enroll in architecture is C for both Physics and Maths.

But in UM's official site, in the STPM entry requirement list for architecture, it's B for both Physics and Maths.

Which one should I trust? The UPU requirement or UM one?

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it should be the UPU ones, although i cant be sure.

in my experience, university websites are update every 6 months. even if they update it regularly, i believe UPU stands the more up-to-date information.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 16 2007, 03:36 AM)
it should be the UPU ones, although i cant be sure.

in my experience, university websites are update every 6 months. even if they update it regularly, i believe UPU stands the more up-to-date information.
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Anyway, thank you very much!

Feeling quite relieved now. I'll have the application done by tomorrow. Thanks for the help all the way. smile.gif
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 15 2007, 09:41 PM)
site project is not much fun, i'd admit. but highly necessary exercise.

yup, ofcourse i've studied timber design before wink.gif
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australia timber frame code ...heard before?
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u mean timber framing code?

well, i've heard of it, but never studied that before. why?
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 16 2007, 08:47 AM)
u mean timber framing code?

well, i've heard of it, but never studied that before. why?
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yeah timber frame code...aussie one..bloody la tat subject...no idea wat it talking..
here aussie still use wood...i prefer concrete! laugh.gif
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Seni Bina is architecture, what's sains pembinaan then? I found this in UTM courses list. What's its field scope? Very different from architecture?

And what about town planning? What does a town planner design??? How different is it from landscape architecture?

THX.
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QUOTE(europology @ Mar 16 2007, 10:11 PM)
Seni Bina is architecture, what's sains pembinaan then? I found this in UTM courses list. What's its field scope? Very different from architecture?

And what about town planning? What does a town planner design??? How different is it from landscape architecture?

THX.
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ya i need to know about architecture course at utm, such as ukur bahan and ukur bangunan wats the difference? some1 enlighten me pls..thx

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TS, the picture for 5.1 is missing. please fix it . thank you
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QUOTE(europology @ Mar 16 2007, 10:11 PM)
Seni Bina is architecture, what's sains pembinaan then? I found this in UTM courses list. What's its field scope? Very different from architecture?

And what about town planning? What does a town planner design??? How different is it from landscape architecture?

THX.
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sains pembinaan is construction science. basically the course u take to become a professional builder. something like phua chu kang, but with wider scope that covers from houses to hi-rise buildings. as u know, there are several classes of contractors in msia (A to F, A is highest). with this degree u can qualify urself to a certain level, but i'm not sure what. also includes construction and cost/economy management.

so in the built environment family, sains pembinaan are the constructors.

town planning are regional planners. majlis perbandaran, majlis daerah all has town planners. they design large scale plans that covers from ur typical kampung lots to housing areas (taman perumahan) to the entire district, although design is not their niche (hence why they call it town planning). they also are responsible for transport plannings, infrastructure and so on.

u know SIM CITY? that's a town planning simulator.

landscape archi can be seen as a smaller version of townplanning with more design element in it. a cross between an architect, townplanner and a botanist. they are more fluent in flora and fauna and are very capable at churning out scientific names of all the plants u can see in cities, what they're good for, how to take care of them etc.

QUOTE(lilballa @ Mar 16 2007, 10:39 PM)
ya i need to know about architecture course at utm, such as ukur bahan and ukur bangunan wats the difference? some1 enlighten me pls..thx
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i'm not exactly sure what ukur bangunan is, but ukur bahan (quantity surveyor) are the lawyers and accountants in the built environment. they manage the costs as well as the construction laws. i'll get back to u about the ukur bangunan later.
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I'm not sure if Architecture is for me. Each time I flip through Architecture books in MPH, I feel it looks so cool and I wish I was doing that.

But then again, I always hear that Architects are poorly paid relative to workers in other fields such as Finance and Accounting, the course is very long compared to other courses, Architecture students go through more stress than other students doing Accounting, Finance etc, very little sleep, no life, high levels of frustrations etc etc.

So those stuff tend to put me off a little. The highest concern is wasting money getting into the course because of dropping out half-way through.

That's my problem. I don't know if Architecture is for me. Currently I'm doing a Finance course. And I feel I won't be competetive enough to be successful in that field, plus my interest in that field is also dwindling.
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despite all that, architecture is VERY addictive. biggrin.gif

and "very little sleep, no life, high levels of frustrations" and all that does not equal to "boring, dull and gloomy". take ur time and ask around. but if u're really into finance, then i'd suggest keep it that way. i wont try to convince u otherwise. wink.gif



note: diagram 5.1 fixed!

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I heard from a friend doing archi course in USM that UM's archi part 2 needs to be done in either USM or UTM as UM doesn't have part 2 itself? Weird...

And oh yeah... when taking architecture as a major, do we have the option to take up minor courses as well? If yes, what do you recommend? What's the maximum minor courses can we take?

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well, it's true. 6 years ago. biggrin.gif

UM is currently the only university in msia which has both PAM and RIBA part 2 accreditation. UiTM is trying to secure RIBA this year, UTM within 2 years. not sure if USM is working for RIBA or not.

currently architecture does not offer a major/minor course, due to the PAM/RIBA requirement. they dont allow any reduction of current curriculum. trying to include a minor element would mean the course would be longer than 5 years, and this is one of the biggest reason why people dont wanna study architecture - it takes too long.

however, UTM is starting an optional course that includes several choices of study. this has not been approved yet by the senate, but we plan to get it running after we get RIBA recognition, most probably by 2010. in this programme, u can opt for a masters instead of a degree by extending ur studies another semester (5.5 years total) where u specialize into a specific field. at the same time, u could also opt for a major/minor degree which is also 5.5 years where u have cross-field specialization.

if u join UTM this year, u should be able to have this option by the time u approach final year.

minor courses in UTM could be taken from any courses of choice provided by UTM. expected favourites for architecture students are: civil engineering, nautical engineering, transport planning, town/regional planning, landscape etc. u could take up to two minor courses, but that would heavily burdens ur semesterly load, unless u extend and spread it throughout.

but that's the plan for the future. not in the pipelines yet.
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OIC. But since architecture is considered quite a new course in UM, is the quality comparable to those old established ones now? Any weaknesses so far? Are the graduates hard to seek jobs?

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