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 INTEL P4/PM 478/479 THREAD, >>V3<<, The Journey Continues Here!

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post Apr 19 2007, 11:34 PM

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Alooha guys! laugh.gif Finally got a time to switch off the pc and take out the ram for indentification! Was busy for exam recently. doh.gif

Anyways, these are the information i manage to from my rim.

Kingston 256MB x2 kit is:

SAMSUNG 516
K4H560838E-TCCC
H568WECF67PXC

Hynix 256MB x2 kit is:

HYNIX 513A
HY5DU5682LDT-D43
KOR 27DAM741EQ

Anyone can identify the ram chip for me? As for the hynix, i suppose its using D43 chip since its written of the surface. But for the kingston, is it using TCCC chipset? sweat.gif And what is TCCC? cool.gif

Edit: Oh yea. Currently was running the ram on 2.5-3-3-6 timing @ 277Mhz speed.

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post Apr 20 2007, 08:25 AM

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Oh yea. Yup.. @ 227mhz speed. Because my ram and procs retio is 1:1. So i doubt the ram speed is equal to the procs FSB. And double comfirmed with CPU also. sweat.gif But anyways, is just 256mb kit. I plan to upgrade to 512mb. Planning to go for HyperX. drool.gif
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post Jul 9 2007, 11:09 PM

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Wow.. Nice monsta cooler! rclxms.gif Haha! Bigger then my Hyper6+! Maybe tidy up ya casing and wire can help reduce few degree of ya temp! biggrin.gif Mine full load hit around 46-50'c with 15% OC.

Btw guys, i got some question wana ask. Its about GC. Im currently planning to put a final boost on my rigs. Plan to change my GC to either Galaxy 7900GS Zalman Edition or XFX7800GS Extreme. drool.gif but i wander will my procs bottlenecking the card? P4 3.0E now @ 3.45Ghz.. blink.gif
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post Jul 9 2007, 11:48 PM

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Really..? cry.gif So bad.. My GC upgrading bubble gone! So, as if i wanna get this card, i gota push more juice from my current procs to support the GC? blink.gif
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post Jul 10 2007, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jul 10 2007, 08:47 AM)
What about considering the 7600GT ?Your system won't bottleneck so much on the graphic card or perhaps the 7800GS if you want.
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Hm.. Do consider before, but seems hard to get at my place for the AGP version. cry.gif Because i plan to put a final boost for my current rigs before i upgrade it. Or perhaps will using this rig until the last day of their life spent. drool.gif
Its the only way to push my procs in oder to match the 78/79 Series? Hm.. So bad.

Btw, im having problems with going beyond 3.45Ghz now. Anyone know whats the problem? I've loosing the ram timing from previous 2.5-3-3-6 to 3-4-4-8 in order to hit 3.52Ghz, but my system failed after 5mins of orthors with priority 9. shocking.gif PC restarting. Tried 4 times, all 4 time same thing happened. icon_question.gif
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post Jul 10 2007, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jul 10 2007, 04:23 PM)
bottleneck doesnt mean you ant have smooth gaming feeling la, just it does not perform like it suppose to be. i think you will still outperform some lower range gcard like 7600GT. icon_rolleyes.gif

as for your rig, i think maybe you have to add more juice on either vcore or vdimm. it after add both still the same, well, that speed is not stable for you. at 3.45GHz your system perfectly prime stable?
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Just home from work! LOL! Oh yea.. Do consider before lower range gc. But cos it will gona be mine last boost for current rig ma, so plan to get something good. drool.gif But not sure current system can support or nt. hmm.gif

Yup.. 3.45Ghz is perfectly normal. Run on this speed for pass 3 months and nothing happen. Prime with Orthos with Gromacs core @ priority 9 for 12hrs plus still alive. But just thing get mess up when i push another 5mhz.

Ic.. Thanks for telling kabukiawie. Will try to adjust abit later on. Hehe.. 3.0E dead at 3.45Ghz..? hmm.gif I think this procs should be can go further then 3.4ghz.

QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jul 10 2007, 05:20 PM)
Oh,i see.I guess are you using 2.8V on your Vdimm right ? Actually no problem of bottleneck but is just that the video card maybe cannot be fully utilize only. biggrin.gif Usually i don't try on PRIME,but play games like Carbon,Warcraft,and Tiberium Wars to see my pc hanged or not. tongue.gif
Welcome to S478 club. rclxms.gif
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Oh yea ray, i was running on default vdimm. 2.8v at this moment. didnt touch the vcore and vdimm yet. So, how much do i need to adjust? 0.5v? Heh.. First time touch vdimm and vcore, so better ask before do. cool.gif


Added on July 10, 2007, 7:47 pm@pengster

lol.. Im temporary working at pc shop, i spotted the Galaxy 7900GS Standard version dealer price only 5xx. Thats y i plan to grab it lo.. for 76 series.. 4xx can get already lo! brows.gif

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post Jul 10 2007, 08:28 PM

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Weird... Guess is my cap-palang PSU (i-Cute) cos the restarting. Test 2 time just now. With 3.52Ghz, 2.5-3-3-6 ram timing, 2.85 Vdimm setting. Prime 1st time 2mins after AUTOMATICALLY pc restarting with any notice or warning, and no error detected during priming process.

2nd time, same setting. 7mins after prime PC restart AUTOMATICALLY agian. Gosh.. Guess is the power supply not stable. Right? Correct me if im wrong.

@raymond5105,

Hm.. The 7900GS is 256mb vr, not the 512mb version. Galaxy type. From what i read from the list, is come with galaxy fan, so i assume is the standard version. Not the Zalman version. At where i find the price? Haha.. At my current working place lo. Saberkas.. Need place order for that card. Due they dont keep stock.

Edit: Should be THIS 7900GS from Galaxy if im not mistaken.

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post Jul 10 2007, 08:41 PM

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@sang_karim

bro, ur having the same procs as i do. How was the performance? brows.gif Change setting and bios and AI booster ask you u restart? rclxub.gif U sure u change at bios ar? Got save the setting? Haha..
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post Jul 10 2007, 09:32 PM

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LOL! Hunting for good UPS? Hehe.. Me too! My crappy icube dont allow i go further then 3.45g! doh.gif Hate that.. Hows ur monsta cooling doing? Hehe! Can hit below 40'c in idle mode?
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post Jul 10 2007, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jul 10 2007, 10:13 PM)
WAh 7900GS only RM5xx only,  brows.gif  brows.gif THe most high end AGP card,are you going to get this ?CAn't imagine the card's performance on S478.
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LOL.. Still thinking due bottlenecking my rigs. Maybe place an order for it 1st. laugh.gif But anyways, its dealer price ma, that why cheap lo. Any it was the standard version. Not the Zalman edition. Wander hows the galaxy fan performance. But anyways, still a good card. xD

Btw, regarding to my question, are is because of UPS not stable?
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post Jul 10 2007, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jul 10 2007, 11:14 PM)
drool.gif  drool.gif 7900GS at rm5xx??? wa.......where you work?? got so good kantao...laugh.gif fast fast get 1 and share with us. biggrin.gif
LOL. Kuching lo.. Cannot tell the shop name here.. Later if the tauke see this thread then i been ired ar! Haha! Yea.. Planning now. Have to place order for this card. Will tell you guys after i grabbed it! rclxms.gif

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post Jul 12 2007, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(sang_karim @ Jul 12 2007, 03:58 PM)
hmm...the AI Booster can be disable or not?? gonna search at bios later this evening la...need to read the manual ... hehe .. biggrin.gif


Added on July 12, 2007, 6:26 pmoredi uninstall the AI Booster ...  rclxms.gif ... trying at 220 FSB .. pc won't boot ... then 215 ... pc restart ... now 211MHz at 1:1 divider ... run orthos for 2 min only oredi fail ..  laugh.gif
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Haha.. Pals i think u need more power for ya system lo. Ur using 350Wright? Seems it wasnt enough to feed ya rigs. Try get a higher watt UPS and try.. See how it perform. I was stucked at 3.45Ghz due my stupid iCute UPS cannot provide stable voltage. grumble.gif
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post Jul 15 2007, 06:29 PM

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Hey guys, how much mhz do u guys up ea time for OC? I found something weird about my rigs. Previously i was up 5mhz ea time for OC, but that cause my rigs stuck at 3.45ghz and being unstable when go beyond that.

But now, i try with up 2mhz ea time and run priming after get into load. My system seems stable. Could prime for 5hrs long without error and restart. Just wander, izit up too much FSB at a time will cause system unstable? laugh.gif
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post Jul 15 2007, 07:34 PM

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Hm.. I not sure whats happening. But seems i could reach 3.5Ghz by slowly increasing the FSB. If jump from big gaps, sure the system get crazy. Btw, both ram was running on D43 chips and same timing. Now hitted 3.5Ghz without problem.. laugh.gif

edit: typo

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post Jul 15 2007, 09:20 PM

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LOL.. It wasnt a good "practice" anyways. Takes alot of time.. Just like testing patient. Up 1 or 2 mhz then load into windows, run pcmark05 to ensure the system is fine. And then repeat the same step agian.. shakehead.gif Wish could hit 3.6Ghz or more.. drool.gif
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post Jul 16 2007, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jul 16 2007, 09:56 AM)
brows.gif  It's not a good practice as it needs long time to burn in the PC nut in long time it would be benefiting to you as your proc can go higher than your desired speed. biggrin.gif
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Hehe.. Yea! I'm pushing my procs in this way now. Push by a little big and then run priming or CPU burn in program. shakehead.gif Take me lotsa time to push the procs. But for me, it worth the time i spent. Hehe.. Hope can hit my target. 3.8Ghz.. brows.gif

QUOTE(rainingzero @ Jul 16 2007, 01:32 PM)
7800gs wont bottlenecking P4 3.0 above as there is no prob reported from user so far. but if x1950pro agp do bottlenecking ur proc, even p4 3.4 also can't correlated with this gc....

edit:performance of 7800gs just on par with 6800ultra, that's y it's not a burden to P4 soc 478 to maximize during gaming. just 7800gs do improve interm of power consumption and heat produced which it use lesser watt and produce lesser heat compared to 6800ultra.
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sweat.gif Wow.. Is that true? Haha.. I was on my mind of getting a 7900GS at the moment. Btw, 78 and 79 are almost same card right? Just the 79 having more pixel unit. Anyone here using Galaxy 7600GT? I had seen the review for this unit.. Seems not bad.. brows.gif If my procs cant hit 3.6G above i might will consider this card.
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post Jul 16 2007, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jul 16 2007, 08:48 PM)
i thought you hav get yourself a 7800gs hmm.gif
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Not yet.. Havent get my "gaji" how to own it. Haha! laugh.gif Need to do more sales and earn commission to pay for tat GC. Now was stuck in between 76GT and 79GS. Wander which 1 to choose.

QUOTE(sang_karim @ Jul 16 2007, 10:00 PM)
i'm quite confuse bout this gc model ..  laugh.gif is there any beginner articles bout those gc brand?  sweat.gif ..it's out of topic obviously  sweat.gif  laugh.gif
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Haha.. Not really out yet. laugh.gif Just discussing about will the GC bottleneck the proc or not only.. Also apart of 478 system! icon_rolleyes.gif What do you want to know about GC? Maybe some guru here can teach you abit if you tell about what you wanna know. brows.gif
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post Jul 16 2007, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jul 16 2007, 11:09 PM)
@fylon
easy only, since you work at computer shop, just plug in a [4 testing unit and play games la.... laugh.gif then you will know hows the different. hehehe
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Haha... If there got stock then i definitely will do that. But just pity.. They dont. Have to place order for the item before u can get them. cry.gif Hhaiz.. Hand itchy when see the StarCraft 2 game preview. drool.gif Wish to owned a good perform card so can play some games. Hehe.. Btw, my superPI value seems kinda BIG. I got 18s for 512kb & 42s for 1m. Any way to improve the speed? hmm.gif
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post Jul 16 2007, 11:46 PM

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Weird.. My ram timing was on 1:1 ratio. Maybe need to tighten more. Currently running on 2.5-3-3-8. Will to tighten it to 2.5-3-3-6 and see how. I tried with CL 2 before, end up my pc cannot boot. Need to reset bios. sweat.gif
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post Jul 17 2007, 10:21 AM

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Ic.. Thank shinjite for the reminder. Hehe.. Im currently running stable on 2.5-4-4-6. Which my superPI for 512kb is 17s and 1M is 41. Increase by 1s if compare with previous. Seems tighten the timing do increase the PI score but also make my system become unstable. laugh.gif Tonight will try will CL3 and see hows the result. Now at work place cannot try. icon_rolleyes.gif

Yea.. Tried with CL2 on my system and end up with system cannot boot up. shakehead.gif I guess my ram was one of problem beside my cap palang UPS. Guess is time to change ram! Hehe.. Do HyperX does good job? blink.gif

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