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Home Theatre Something you should know before buying a HDTV, LCD, Plasma, RP LCD, SXRD

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post Jan 9 2007, 04:24 AM

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I read the hitachi manual...it only shift 1 pixel per row/column. I've tried reproducing this with a 1920 X 1080 wall paper. I made the picture move up by 1 pixel, then down by 1 pixel, then down by 1 pixel, and finally up by 1 pixel back to center. The image "picture shift" was done in every 5 seconds (Hitachi has setting from 5 mins and onwards i think)...as far as the slideshow is concerned, it is noticeable...but if the picture moves every 5 mins, I'd probably not notice it. Pioneer is not the leading brand AFAIK, Fujitsu is biggrin.gif - Hitachi is a partner of Fujitsu

When I get the TV, i'm gonna do a pre-calibration and leave it facing the wall and break it in for 6-7 days staright (200hours), with some time breaks of course. I'll start using it after that. I noticed that only "some" games are a concern for serious IR. Especially those that display a particular pattern of image for long period of time (CS, and some other FPS games). While I was playing Untold Legends yesterday, as well as motorstorm demo, I noticed that the game will take a break itself (go into save menu, loading screen, and etc) in every 10-20 mins. So I'd think those "HUDs" images will not have seriously ill effect on the TV. Btw, I game no more than a few hours in a day (maybe 6 MAX)...I can't stand lying on the bed playing games and wasting time whole day, and I'll automatically take a break once in awhile. Good to have some self control smile.gif

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That's true, I think the picture shift is useless if u are displaying a solid block of color at a particular location biggrin.gif
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post Jan 9 2007, 07:19 AM

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noticed that alamak changed his westinghouse lcd, hoho! No more the audio-freak alamak, he has become the HT freak xd biggrin.gif
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post Jan 9 2007, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Jan 9 2007, 04:24 AM)
I read the hitachi manual...it only shift 1 pixel per row/column. I've tried reproducing this with a 1920 X 1080 wall paper. I made the picture move up by 1 pixel, then down by 1 pixel, then down by 1 pixel, and finally up by 1 pixel back to center. The image "picture shift" was done in every 5 seconds (Hitachi has setting from 5 mins and onwards i think)...as far as the slideshow is concerned, it is noticeable...but if the picture moves every 5 mins, I'd probably not notice it. Pioneer is not the leading brand AFAIK, Fujitsu is biggrin.gif - Hitachi is a partner of Fujitsu

When I get the TV, i'm gonna do a pre-calibration and leave it facing the wall and break it in for 6-7 days staright (200hours), with some time breaks of course. I'll start using it after that. I noticed that only "some" games are a concern for serious IR. Especially those that display a particular pattern of image for long period of time (CS, and some other FPS games). While I was playing Untold Legends yesterday, as well as motorstorm demo, I noticed that the game will take a break itself (go into save menu, loading screen, and etc) in every 10-20 mins. So I'd think those "HUDs" images will not have seriously ill effect on the TV. Btw, I game no more than a few hours in a day (maybe 6 MAX)...I can't stand lying on the bed playing games and wasting time whole day, and I'll automatically take a break once in awhile. Good to have some self control smile.gif

@tong
That's true, I think the picture shift is useless if u are displaying a solid block of color at a particular location biggrin.gif
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post Jan 9 2007, 02:09 PM

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no I havent received it, I'm still waiting for the refund on the LCD TV before I could order it...otherwise my CC will explode laugh.gif

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After going through many rounds of survey to compare between LCD and Plasma, finally my choice still go to Plasma. My observation was better PQ, natural & realistics colours and also clear & crisp fast moving pictures. biggrin.gif

Again, some of my friends think LCD is better but at the end it still comes to individual preference. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(highlander8 @ Jan 9 2007, 08:38 PM)
After going through many rounds of survey to compare between LCD and Plasma, finally my choice still go to Plasma. My observation was better PQ, natural & realistics colours and also clear & crisp fast moving pictures.  biggrin.gif

Again, some of my friends think LCD is better but at the end it still comes to individual preference.  rolleyes.gif
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Yes, u have made the RIGHT choice !! rclxms.gif
I have to agree with u. Plasma is BEST for movies. rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(piscesguy @ Jan 9 2007, 08:41 PM)
Yes, u have made the RIGHT choice !!  rclxms.gif
I have to agree with u. Plasma is BEST for movies.  rclxm9.gif
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Once there is sales man told me that Hitachi product no good and dont buy any plasma because its out dated. I then ask him that if plasma is so outdated, then can he sell me cheap cheap like CRT price since both are also outdated. He is speechless, than i walk out from that shop and will never return.
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QUOTE(tong1774 @ Jan 9 2007, 09:13 PM)
Once there is sales man told me that Hitachi product no good and dont buy any plasma because its out dated. I then ask him that if plasma is so outdated, then can he sell me cheap cheap like CRT price since both are also outdated. He is speechless, than i walk out from that shop and will never return.
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Initially I've the similar thought that "plasma is out dated". But after I did the real close comparison and many rounds of survey, then I believe what my eye have seen is the right choice. smile.gif
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post Jan 10 2007, 12:52 AM

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42" 1080p plasma will be launching this year. I suppose there is no reason to wait since there will still be no 1080p HD broadcast yet.

I happen to discover something very interesting today. I noticed that it is actually easier to see if an LCD TV has banding with the TV turned off instead of when it is turned on. If you have the screen turned off and look at it side ways (with some ambient light as you will need the reflection), you should be able to see some darker streaks and some lighter color ones. Those will be the spots that would cause different brightness.
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Jan 10 2007, 12:52 AM)
42" 1080p plasma will be launching this year. I suppose there is no reason to wait since there will still be no 1080p HD broadcast yet.

I happen to discover something very interesting today. I noticed that it is actually easier to see if an LCD TV has banding with the TV turned off instead of when it is turned on. If you have the screen turned off and look at it side ways (with some ambient light as you will need the reflection), you should be able to see some darker streaks and some lighter color ones. Those will be the spots that would cause different brightness.
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1080p plasma is going to cost u a nuke bro! And something off topic, why i change your avatar to black and white, didnt realise that at first.
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post Jan 10 2007, 01:54 AM

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Coz there was a time where my sig was also black/grey, just wanted to match the theme
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post Jan 10 2007, 08:39 AM

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I'm having second thought on the Hitachi TV. I called them 2 times asking for some concerns and they kept on giving me bull shit...I heard that even Pioneer does that......god...I hate buying stuff nowadays.
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Jan 10 2007, 08:39 AM)
I'm having second thought on the Hitachi TV. I called them 2 times asking for some concerns and they kept on giving me bull shit...I heard that even Pioneer does that......god...I hate buying stuff nowadays.
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the flickering issue. I need to know if they can truely fix it...if they can't fix the problem, i'm not buying their TV. The issue had been raised 3 months ago yet they dont have a solution to it.
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Walau we got alot of problem buying display units nowadays

plasma is something i will avoid for sure because of its screen burn issue

lcds seems like having banding issues ...

How about that 2 new technology , LaserTV and AMOLED ... i am waiting for thoose two to be out , this fellas has no refresh rate, flickering or screen burn issues i heard

i am hoping the price is not that expensive than the current one tongue.gif
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post Jan 10 2007, 11:10 AM

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There will definitely be some problem of its own besides the price tag. I think I might call off purchasing the Hitachi now and wait for the 1080p Plasma...seems like most of them will have a MSRP of 3.xK usd for 50"-60"+ I think 1080p will definitely be the new standard which explains why the drastic price drop on the 720p/1080i sets now. Sigh...got $$ also cannot buy something good zzzzzzz
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post Jan 10 2007, 01:27 PM

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investing in a HDTV or home theatre setup is like getting married. Once you take the plunge you shouldn't look at newer models or you will never be satisfied. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Jan 10 2007, 11:10 AM)
There will definitely be some problem of its own besides the price tag. I think I might call off purchasing the Hitachi now and wait for the 1080p Plasma...seems like most of them will have a MSRP of 3.xK usd for 50"-60"+ I think 1080p will definitely be the new standard which explains why the drastic price drop on the 720p/1080i sets now. Sigh...got $$ also cannot buy something good zzzzzzz
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post Jan 11 2007, 12:21 AM

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I'm waiting for my component to DVI adapter to arrive and hopefully my LCD monitor can tahan for a few months.

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