This means that CRT is still the best. Unfortunately, component only support low bit rate. Maybe should get CRT with HDMI
http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=en&q=cr...ta=lr%3Dlang_en

The issue is a problem when u continuously watch a movie with a logo for a pro-longed period of time. If u switch on and off or sticking to particular channel for less than 5 hrs, i dont think it will be a problem. It has employed the 'picture shift' in it to minimise the problem.

A friend of mine who owns Pioneer plasma doesnt has a problem with this after 3 years.

There's not CRT with HDMI and even if there is you're not getting true HD resolutions, some CRTs support 1080i signals but it doesn't you're getting 1080i resolution.

Well, LCDs or Plasmas might have their own pros and cons but frankly, they're still better looking than a normal CRT when you feed them with HD materials.

The new plasma are suppose to no longer have this problem. However, the plasma is still too fragile and great care is needed, if you forgot to turn off the TV or some silly power outage force the tv to turn on upon getting the power back (my CRT does that) it might cause some serious damage to the Tv. Regardless, this is just one problem with plasma there are many more like rainbow effect. None of the Tvs now are close to perfect and I can't help but keep on noticing their flaws.

is the BRAVIA model supposed to be HD ready? Look disappointed though to look for btter lcd tv...

Both the Bravia V2500 and XBR2/3 are 1080p ready. Both suffers from the Mura effect, and both have about 90% chance of getting dead pixels. I didn't pay too much attention to the XBR2 but I've read comments from some other owners that although the black level is better than other LCD TV, the black crush is even more kau.

Sony's latest flaghship HDTV XBR3 is amongst the best in the 1080p lcd market. It has a very high contrast ratio ( don't remember the exacts ), dual HDMI ports if not mistaken, but getting deal pixels only applies to the plasmas ? Pls clarify.

Oh well we'll just have to sit and wait and wait. There's no point getting a HDTV yet as Bluray/HD-DVD players and movies are still at birth. Thanks for the short life span of technology.

I'm in a dilemma here as I am constantly being bugged by the banding issue with LCD tv...I simply cant stand those damn banding. They look very obvious when the picture is panning left and right as you can see them as haze and they make the screen looks "dirty". I got my TV at a super deal and I'm very very reluctant to return it. But I think LCD technology is just not for me

Just to spam a little. The Garage Sale forum is still available

want me to ship a 42" 60lbs TV from Canada to Malaysia? I dont think so

EDIT: hmm, after ever more testing, I found out that LCD is not able to provide a perfectly smooth backlighting and brightness regardless of size. If you want to see what I mean, this is what you need to do:

1) clean your lcd monitor, make sure that is is very clean
2) make sure your white and black level is set properly so that nothign is washed out
3) take the following picture, do not put it to maximum but keep it windowed.
4) move the window around with your mouse and you will notice that the screen is 'hazy' and 'dirty' eventhough you have cleaned the screen.

The haze and dirtiness is apparently the uneven backlighting and surface of the panel. I thought it was my screen that's suffering from this phenomenon and apparently this is happening to my LCD monitor too...WTF

Have I became a videophile or did I just become more sensitive and anal?
I'm so confused I don't even know what I should do.

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I think u are being anal. ha... why dont u just get a CRT instead of LCD or Plasma? As long as u dont move house always, the weight can be ignore. And the sony 36" XBR series Wides creen CRT is still available in US, too bad they dont carry it into Malaysia any more. CRT will has its own problem too, but at least better than plasma or LCD.

CRT size is too small. I am moving to another province in the next 6 months, which is why I am leaning towards LCD. If I were to buy the TV a few months later, I would get the 50" KDS50A2000. But for now, I really cant as I will have to pay a great deal for the shipping next time. I'm wondering if I should just return the TV and wait a few months to get the larger sony with less problems. Man, I can't stand my 24" crt with PS3...it is now worse than crap.

EDIT: Screw it, I'm returning it..I can't stand the banding on LCD. I'll get the 50" SXRD a few months later (hopefully no banding), or go for a panny 1080p plasma....

This post has been edited by AlamakLor: Jan 3 2007, 05:26 PM

Well may be u should just return it and wait for another 6 months, or 6 month later u just sell it to your friend and get a new one. Its up to how much u can tolerate your current lcd, if can not, just return it lo... How far do u sit from your tv, 26" is ok if u sit less than 1 meter away, but if u can not tahan the PQ, then there is nothing u can do.

Actually my CRT is only 24" and it can only do 480i....I can barely look at it now but on SD content it still looks ok.

As for the TV, I just came back from Sony Store and some other electronics store. Here are my findings with regards to LCD, RP LCD, and Plasma:

-LCD: Best image of all the technology but poorest black level. Vertical banding is definitely in every single LCD tv out there. I have noticed that both the XBR and V2500 have very even vertical banding. They are all over the screen and are about 1-2 inches apart. I find the VB to be softer compared to other TVs but my GF says that it is even worse than my Westinghouse. The Bravia XBR mura effect is crazy, it is not obvious as long as there is ambient light, and if you are a few ft away. In a totally dark room, you can see the cloud easily and they have different patterns...the one I looked at had a BIG MUTHA ******* Cloud at the left and some smaller ones at the right.

LCD RP: I looked at the 50. 60, and 70" SXRD and boy I must say they suck big time compared to true LCD tv. I did not notice and green blob on any of the SXRD but the sharpness is no where near LCD. The screen is ever so rough in its texture and it looks really noisy. The picture is really soft even if you crank the sharpness to max and the screen looks a little fuzzy. The TVs have all been on for some time and is fully warmed up. Off axis viewing is nightmare... However, the best part is, I can barely see any banding at all. Regardless, I've written off RP, it simply doesnt work for me.

-Plasma: The picture is closest to CRT imho, but requires great care when using them. I noticed that manufaturers have written in the manual that they do not cover image retention, dead pixels, and etc. They did mention in the manual that image retention may occur and encourage users to keep the contrast and brightness low. Another thing to note about plasma is screen reflection. Unlike lcd, there is a coat of glass in the front and obviously you can see your own reflection on the screen as a result of that. Picture wise, I like the samsung quite abit. The color is quite natural and is slightly soft compared to LCD which some ppl find it unnatural. The only problem with Plasma is that it is hard to find 1080p screens that do not blow a hole in your pocket.

I still cannot make up my mind what to do maybe i should just keep the LCD tv?

Well if thats the case then u may have to stick with LCD, and a darn good one since u are so anal about perfection. I didnt check out the Philips 9xxx series very closely(Too darn expensive here!), but may be u can give it a try since its one of the best LCD out there which uses Sharp's panel. But if black level is very important to u then there is not much option though. As for the Sony XBR, may be u can try looking for other batch which do not have the mura effects, so u may have to be very "kam cheng" with the sales man so that he could help u find one.

The problem is i dont wanna spend more than rm6k for the TV I am actually contemplating returning this and get the Hitachi Plasma 720p 42HDS69 1024 X 1080 which accepts native 1080i, Alis panel should be immune to burn in. I can't decide how important is 1080p to me now as I have not seen a 1080p game on ps3 yet. I see no difference between upconverted 720p vs native 720p res. I wanna get the most experience out of GT5 (1080p omg) though.. speaking of which, I should look at a downconverted 1080p BD movie...

SideNote:-
One of the reason why a medical LCD monitor is darn expensive is maker warrant uniform back light panel and all these banding craps. you get a 100% uniform LCD but expect to pay ~rm30k for a 21" 3-Mega Pixel.

cheers

Does the 5 year warranty given by Sony covers the dead pixels as well. I'm not sure about Bravia but for LCD monitors, they guarantee dead pixels free with one to one exchange. Any idea?

Sony doesn't offer zero dead pixel policy. I did not ask them specifically but as I have stated in one of the threads, the bravia line has 90% chance of getting dead pixel (according to AVSforum), just like how 90% of LCDs have obvious banding issue.

Bear in mind that some of these warranty only covers electronics and parts. Similar to Plasma TV warranty, they cover mainly the electronics and parts, but if the screen developed a bunch of dead pixels...they will need to give you a new TV since they can't repair those dead pixels.

Crutchfieldcanada.com has been very very helpful. I told them my reason for not wanting to get the Sony now and the lady told me that they would do a full refund for me and I can get the Tv from them later. But I'd told her I wont go RP since it sucks big time compared to other HDTV technology Now, really, I think 1080p is not a "must" for the next few years, 1080i should be just as good. I didn't pay too much attention to the PQ but I can't really tell the difference between 1080p and 1080i BD movie.

Hitachi 42HDS69 looks promising (1080i native input)

This post has been edited by AlamakLor: Jan 4 2007, 11:53 AM

As someone said, anything below 50", u cant tell the difference between 1080I & 1080P unless u sit very very close like less than 4 feet. I am not sure though since i only compare them with my 1366x768 Sharp and i cant tell the difference too. So may be Hitachi plasma is the way u should go.