QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 3 2016, 06:15 PM)
i mentioned about it last week.Nobody interested for further discussion.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Sep 3 2016, 09:24 AM) hey guys funds like my manulife India and RTF that I purchased last year have netted me a good roi. I always take off the profit when it reached certain percentage. Leaving it there for funds that keep going up is more profitable though, due to compound effect, but you never know what will happen next in volatile market.I was thinking to I start selling off the profits to be used to buy into another fund and leave the "capital" untouched. would that be a wise move or do I just leave it? help. This post has been edited by kimyee73: Sep 3 2016, 07:40 PM |
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Sep 3 2016, 07:53 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 3 2016, 07:53 PM) I bot last year I am a bit late, one lump sum in March, then another lump sum in June. Now deliberating whether to top up further for my retirement as the annualized 5 years return is > 7% (comparable with ASB) Wat say u? Now stop buying because the fund size increased exponentially from RM40mil in March 2016 to around RM130mil++ in Jul 2016, a dramatic increment. As a result, the cash holding enlarged to > 30%, when the cash holding is large, it will affect the fund performance. The fund managers do not invest fast enough to keep the cash holding low, |
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Sep 3 2016, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 3 2016, 08:06 PM) I am a bit late, one lump sum in March, then another lump sum in June. They plan to keep d xcess cash in short term money market instruments or bz identifying gud papers to buy?Now stop buying because the fund size increased exponentially from RM40mil in March 2016 to around RM130mil++ in Jul 2016, a dramatic increment. As a result, the cash holding enlarged to > 30%, when the cash holding is large, it will affect the fund performance. The fund managers do not invest fast enough to keep the cash holding low, |
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Sep 3 2016, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 3 2016, 08:11 PM) They plan to keep d xcess cash in short term money market instruments or bz identifying gud papers to buy? Not sure, but it seems the fund size grow faster than expected, fund manager still holding > RM40mil cash uninvested.My observation of Public Mutual, if the fund grows too fast, usually the manager will temporary freeze the fund for new subscriptions, and will reopen the fund when the timing is right. |
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Sep 4 2016, 12:52 AM
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hey guys, 2 questions
1. how do i actually calculate my actual gains on FSM? my current understanding is, sales charge (2% or promo rate) is net off at the point of purchase, subsequent to that, the annual management charge is already net off from the NAV daily. So is the gain i see under my fund performance the net gain i will get? 2. how to read the % return on the NAV on the table with 1 week, 1 month, 3 months etc, in simple terms, does it mean, if i bought on 1st Sept, and as at 30 Sept, the 1 month NAV returns shows 5%, that's the gain i will get, if i have invested on the 1st? and is that gain a gross or net gain? thanks for your enlightenment before hand |
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Sep 4 2016, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(garou33 @ Sep 4 2016, 12:52 AM) hey guys, 2 questions for simple and easy to use (if one does not take into the SC charges),1. how do i actually calculate my actual gains on FSM? my current understanding is, sales charge (2% or promo rate) is net off at the point of purchase, subsequent to that, the annual management charge is already net off from the NAV daily. So is the gain i see under my fund performance the net gain i will get? 2. how to read the % return on the NAV on the table with 1 week, 1 month, 3 months etc, in simple terms, does it mean, if i bought on 1st Sept, and as at 30 Sept, the 1 month NAV returns shows 5%, that's the gain i will get, if i have invested on the 1st? and is that gain a gross or net gain? thanks for your enlightenment before hand try use the fund return tool goto FUNDS INFO > FUND RETURN > (select the fund and set the duration), then click "Get Returns" = Returns in % |
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Sep 4 2016, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 3 2016, 06:15 PM) QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 3 2016, 07:06 PM) RHB Islamic Bond Fund Steps Out of Recommended Fund November 10, 2011 Find out the reasons why we remove RHB Islamic Bond Fund as our Recommended Fund under the category of Malaysia Bond Islamic as well as our advices to existing unit holders and potential new investors. https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=1767 Dissecting The Recent Drop in RHB Islamic Bond Fund October 27, 2011 RHB Islamic Bond Fund dropped 8.323% on 24 October 2011 due to the write-down of one of its holdings, Tracoma Bond. What should existing unit holders of this fund do? HOLD it. https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=1719 Switch Sell Your Fund If It Holds Ample Zone Sukuk Investors may notice that RHB Islamic Bond Fund and RHB Bond Fund, which invested 10.47% and 18.54% respectively into Ample Zone Class C Sukuk, have not taken any actions as of the time of writing this article. https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...Zone-Sukuk-2062 |
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Sep 4 2016, 10:45 AM
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Same with Amdynamic bond
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Sep 4 2016, 11:31 AM
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I think the RHB Islamic bond funds get recovered thereafter. Ample zones settled the bond eventually, therefore the fund still ranked as lower risk and it's average return over the 10 years (or shorter term 1-3 years) remain strong.
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Sep 4 2016, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(garou33 @ Sep 4 2016, 12:52 AM) hey guys, 2 questions As far as I know...1. how do i actually calculate my actual gains on FSM? my current understanding is, sales charge (2% or promo rate) is net off at the point of purchase, subsequent to that, the annual management charge is already net off from the NAV daily. So is the gain i see under my fund performance the net gain i will get? 2. how to read the % return on the NAV on the table with 1 week, 1 month, 3 months etc, in simple terms, does it mean, if i bought on 1st Sept, and as at 30 Sept, the 1 month NAV returns shows 5%, that's the gain i will get, if i have invested on the 1st? and is that gain a gross or net gain? thanks for your enlightenment before hand 1. yes 2. The table shows bid-to-bid returns, which do not take sales charge into account. |
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Sep 4 2016, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 3 2016, 08:06 PM) I am a bit late, one lump sum in March, then another lump sum in June. Now stop buying because the fund size increased exponentially from RM40mil in March 2016 to around RM130mil++ in Jul 2016, a dramatic increment. As a result, the cash holding enlarged to > 30%, when the cash holding is large, it will affect the fund performance. The fund managers do not invest fast enough to keep the cash holding low, yet they managed to used up the money and maintain a cash pool of 30%.... 30 +/- 5 % cash pool is normal I guess Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Will be busy till early next year so don't have the time to create a new thread. Someone please create a new thread and tag me there. Thanks ya!
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Sep 4 2016, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 4 2016, 11:31 AM) I think the RHB Islamic bond funds get recovered thereafter. Ample zones settled the bond eventually, therefore the fund still ranked as lower risk and it's average return over the 10 years (or shorter term 1-3 years) remain strong. if I would like to go into bond....I will use the recommended fund and also the Risk volatility index given.The current portfolios seems healthy at least FSM did some filtering for me and also for bond I aimed for lower portfolio volatility not so much as for FI performance. |
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Sep 4 2016, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE(T231H @ Sep 4 2016, 11:38 AM) if I would like to go into bond....I will use the recommended fund and also the Risk volatility index given. Good for you, at least FSM did some filtering for me and also for bond I aimed for lower portfolio volatility not so much as for FI performance. Safe approach |
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Sep 3 2016, 11:15 AM) Sure, get the other female forumers to do it. TS is really not my thing lor. Did you see how dead FSM SG thread is? As I'd mentioned many times already, there no need to open new threads as new system can support more than 5000 post as u can witness it at hereHmm? What does that means? SC promo to move market? That one u need to get public mutual to do la. FSM AUA after so many years baru rm1b. Some more scattered in so many fund house. Sure no effect One PM agent on Cari forum indicated that PM management discussed about FSM n concluded that online platform is not a threat to them because investors still prefer door to door sales service. We will see... If anything, the complacency will bring the company down https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...380&p=81560707& |
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Sep 4 2016, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(T231H @ Sep 4 2016, 09:57 AM) for simple and easy to use (if one does not take into the SC charges), try use the fund return tool goto FUNDS INFO > FUND RETURN > (select the fund and set the duration), then click "Get Returns" = Returns in % QUOTE(river.sand @ Sep 4 2016, 11:31 AM) As far as I know... alright, that clears things up, thanks guys 1. yes 2. The table shows bid-to-bid returns, which do not take sales charge into account. |
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Guys, wouldn't it be cool if we have a Fundsupermart Facebook Group as well
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