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post Apr 5 2016, 01:20 PM

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lai lai any fund recommend..
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QUOTE(wonglokat @ Apr 5 2016, 12:07 PM)
Oh, how the giant (Titan) falls. Dang!
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In 2014, M'sia funds esp KGF was the darling.... then China funds became the de'rigeur in Q2 to Q3 in 2015, then it tumbled. Thereafter GTF become the new darling as USD/MYR forex was in USD's favour.

Now that the reverse of USD/MYR forex has occurred, GTF is no longer the darling, and M'sia exposed UTF become the de'rigeur once again esp KGF. A full cycle has come.

The world market is very fickle minded, that is the truth and nothing can change that fact.

That is why, it is useless to time the market or chase after it. It is very energy zapping. Just hold a diversified portfolio where the calculated rewards >> the risk and over time, you should be fine.

The term reward refers to Yield or ROI and Risk refers to Standard Deviation.

Xuzen

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post Apr 5 2016, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Apr 5 2016, 01:20 PM)
lai lai any fund recommend..
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KGF outperform ASX FP everytime. Might want to look at that.

If me, just stick with the 5 recommended ones
KGF
Eastspring smallcap
Titans
Ponzi 2.0
Rhb Asian total return
Amprecious (optional if you want very fast returns - high volatility)

You are holding for 3-5 years. If me, if it drop, just topup more. If it increase, you have 2 choice. Take profit, or just leave it and topup less.

Don't overspread or else returns could be diluted. You dont need a bond as a bond is to stabilise a portfolio by giving fix returns as you have ASX FP. Some might not agree but this will be the way I go.

If is me, I will just go for the 5 funds I listed with the weightage (includes topping up) as follow
KGF 25%
Eastspring 25%
Rhb 25%
Ponzi 2.0 12.5%
Titans12.5%

Right now is a good time to buy Titans (USD fall)

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Apr 5 2016, 02:16 PM)
In 2014, M'sia funds esp KGF was the darling.... then China funds became the de'rigeur in Q2 to Q3 in 2015, then it tumbled. Thereafter GTF become the new darling as USD/MYR forex was in USD's favour.

Now that the reverse of USD/MYR forex has occurred, GTF is no longer the darling, and M'sia exposed UTF become the de'rigeur once again esp KGF. A full cycle has come.

The world market is very fickle minded, that is the truth and nothing can change that fact.

That is why, it is useless to time the market or chase after it. It is very energy zapping. Just hold a diversified portfolio where the calculated rewards >> the risk and over time, you should be fine.

The term reward refers to Yield or ROI and Risk refers to Standard Deviation.

Xuzen
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But one can predict right? Say USD fall. Titans sure fall. So topup more in Titans.
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Affin Hwang Select SGD Income Fund? FSM recommended fund of the month?

Pftt. I have this fund in my portfolio. Utter rubbish fund. I can't wait to get rid of it. Benchmark is 12 months FD? I should have put in the Maybank E-deposit now currently offering about 4.31% for 12 months.

P/S: It doesn't matter whether you are a gold account or platinum account holder. The usual sales fee of 2% will apply even for RSP.


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post Apr 5 2016, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 5 2016, 02:23 PM)
KGF outperform ASX FP everytime. Might want to look at that.

If me, just stick with the 5 recommended ones
KGF
Eastspring smallcap
Titans
Ponzi 2.0
Rhb Asian total return
Amprecious (optional if you want very fast returns - high volatility)

You are holding for 3-5 years.  If me, if it drop, just topup more. If it increase, you have 2 choice. Take profit, or just leave it and topup less.

Don't overspread or else returns could be diluted. You dont need a bond as a bond is to stabilise a portfolio by giving fix returns as you have ASX FP. Some might not agree but this will be the way I go.

If is me, I will just go for the 5 funds I listed with the weightage (includes topping up) as follow
KGF 25%
Eastspring 25%
Rhb 25%
Ponzi 2.0 12.5%
Titans12.5%

Right now is a good time to buy Titans (USD fall)
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I don't have that much money to start of la lol. Only having 1000 myr. haha.


I did compare eastspring sc vs kgf. Surprisingly esc > kgf.
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post Apr 5 2016, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 5 2016, 02:23 PM)
KGF outperform ASX FP everytime. Might want to look at that.

If me, just stick with the 5 recommended ones
KGF
Eastspring smallcap
Titans
Ponzi 2.0
Rhb Asian total return
Amprecious (optional if you want very fast returns - high volatility)

You are holding for 3-5 years.  If me, if it drop, just topup more. If it increase, you have 2 choice. Take profit, or just leave it and topup less.

Don't overspread or else returns could be diluted. You dont need a bond as a bond is to stabilise a portfolio by giving fix returns as you have ASX FP. Some might not agree but this will be the way I go.

If is me, I will just go for the 5 funds I listed with the weightage (includes topping up) as follow
KGF 25%
Eastspring 25%
Rhb 25%
Ponzi 2.0 12.5%
Titans12.5%

Right now is a good time to buy Titans (USD fall)
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Do more research on each fund and check what kind of funds they are. You're contradicting yourself

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 5 2016, 02:26 PM)
But one can predict right? Say USD fall. Titans sure fall. So topup more in Titans.
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You mean predicting when is USD going to drop to the lowest?
QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Apr 5 2016, 03:34 PM)

I don't have that much money to start of la lol. Only having 1000 myr. haha.
I did compare eastspring sc vs kgf. Surprisingly esc > kgf.
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I've replied to you before on how to start investing in more than 1 fund with rm1000. With rm1k, you can definitely invest in all 5 funds that Tun posted.


This post has been edited by ohcipala: Apr 5 2016, 03:54 PM
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post Apr 5 2016, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Apr 5 2016, 03:16 PM)
Affin Hwang Select SGD Income Fund?  FSM recommended fund of the month?

Pftt. I have this fund in my portfolio. Utter rubbish fund. I can't wait to get rid of it. Benchmark is 12 months FD? I should have put in the Maybank E-deposit now currently offering about 4.31% for 12 months.

P/S: It doesn't matter whether you are a gold account or platinum account holder. The usual sales fee of 2% will apply even for RSP.
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U have been holding for how long?
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QUOTE(ohcipala @ Apr 5 2016, 03:48 PM)
Do more research on each fund and check what kind of funds they are.  You're contradicting yourself
You mean predicting when is USD going to drop to the lowest?
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I have checked. Generally for few years KGF outperform ASX FP. What I meant is how much I am willing to put into which funds. Crazy to dump 100% into say KGF.

No. Not that. As soon as USD drops, Titans will fall. So when it fall, just buy. That's what I meant. No need to wait for lowest. If it drop some more buy. If is high, don't buy. (since it is directly related to USD)

Can that work? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Apr 5 2016, 03:53 PM)
U have been holding for how long?
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Less than one year. But it is a balanced fund. More than 68% in bond. Supposed to be steadier, no?

So if it is making losses consistently for more than 6 months, I consider it as a FAILED Singapore investment in my portfolio.


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post Apr 5 2016, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 5 2016, 02:23 PM)
KGF outperform ASX FP everytime. Might want to look at that.

If me, just stick with the 5 recommended ones
KGF
Eastspring smallcap
Titans
Ponzi 2.0
Rhb Asian total return
Amprecious (optional if you want very fast returns - high volatility)

You are holding for 3-5 years.  If me, if it drop, just topup more. If it increase, you have 2 choice. Take profit, or just leave it and topup less.

Don't overspread or else returns could be diluted. You dont need a bond as a bond is to stabilise a portfolio by giving fix returns as you have ASX FP. Some might not agree but this will be the way I go.

If is me, I will just go for the 5 funds I listed with the weightage (includes topping up) as follow
KGF 25%
Eastspring 25%
Rhb 25%
Ponzi 2.0 12.5%
Titans12.5%

Right now is a good time to buy Titans (USD fall)
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RHB ATR has not been doing well since the start of the year wor
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...n-Fund-MYRHBATR

YTD -7% for a bond fund.... sure ka? and volatility of 8.59

Don't get me wrong, I have that fund also. Just that I would not recommend it to be the only bond fund in the portfolio

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Apr 5 2016, 04:02 PM)
Less than one year. But it is a balanced fund. More than 68% in bond. Supposed to be steadier, no?

So if it is making losses consistently for more than 6 months, I consider it as a FAILED Singapore investment in my portfolio.
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Currency is d main culprit
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QUOTE(ohcipala @ Apr 5 2016, 03:48 PM)
Do more research on each fund and check what kind of funds they are.  You're contradicting yourself
You mean predicting when is USD going to drop to the lowest?
I've replied to you before on how to start investing in more than 1 fund with rm1000. With rm1k, you can definitely invest in all 5 funds that Tun posted.
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But that one need every month buy de...
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 5 2016, 03:58 PM)
I have checked. Generally for few years KGF outperform ASX FP. What I meant is how much I am willing to put into which funds. Crazy to dump 100% into say KGF.

No. Not that. As soon as USD drops, Titans will fall. So when it fall, just buy. That's what I meant. No need to wait for lowest. If it drop some more buy. If is high, don't buy. (since it is directly related to USD)

Can that work? hmm.gif
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You say you're not going for bond funds. So I suggest to check if those 5 funds are all not bond funds.

Sure, you can keep buying when Titans' price is dropping. But what would be your trigger to click the buy button? If it keeps dropping, do you have enough bullets? icon_idea.gif But then again, reading back your previous post, it sounded that you're making predictions on when the price is going to be cheap. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Apr 5 2016, 04:06 PM)
RHB ATR has not been doing well since the start of the year wor
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...n-Fund-MYRHBATR

YTD -7% for a bond fund.... sure ka? and volatility of 8.59

Don't get me wrong, I have that fund also. Just that I would not recommend it to be the only bond fund in the portfolio
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I am thinking holding for minimum 3 years. Everything sure got up and down. If panic and sell before 3 years (I use 3 years benchmark), or didn't perform, better dispose of the fund.
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Apr 5 2016, 04:20 PM)
But that one need every month buy de...
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It doesn't say you can't terminate the contract after the first purchase right? icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Apr 5 2016, 04:20 PM)
But that one need every month buy de...
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No need. You can buy once and topup when you have money. Don't want to topup also can.
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QUOTE(T231H @ Apr 5 2016, 06:00 AM)
I think it has to depends on when that individual funds do the financial closing of that fund.
The past historical distribution dates maybe found on the fund factsheet or on the annual report.
Btw, those that invest in unit trusts don't bother with dividend distribution. ....why?.....see post# 1.
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Thanks T231H for the response and the advice
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Apr 5 2016, 04:10 PM)
Currency is d main culprit
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Yes, I think you could be right. Sorry I am just ranting here. Male menopause.
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QUOTE(ohcipala @ Apr 5 2016, 04:24 PM)
It doesn't say you can't terminate the contract after the first purchase right? icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 5 2016, 04:28 PM)
No need. You can buy once and topup when you have money. Don't want to topup also can.
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and start off with just 100 instead of 1000...... icon_idea.gif

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