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dasecret
post Apr 6 2016, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Apr 5 2016, 11:44 PM)
i seriously lazy to reply, but i saw a troll replying, who probably hasn't been investing much himself answering your question, making me want to type some words.

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I LOL-ed reading this line. Exactly my sentiments tongue.gif
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post Apr 8 2016, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Apr 8 2016, 12:07 PM)
Hmm ok. I know the cut off time is 1500. I bought after 1500 when should the order complete? Lets say Monday. Shall I wait till Wednesday to complete or later?
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The transaction will be priced following the price on the next business day.
However, the transaction will be under processing for about 4 working days then only it would be reflected in your holdings. So no worries, so far I never had issue with FSM pricing date
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post Apr 8 2016, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Apr 8 2016, 04:26 PM)
4 working days??!!
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So the pricing is following the date I ordered or the after long 4 working day?
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Price of the following day. 4 working days to reflect that in your unit trust holdings only, like processing time but price is set jor
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post Apr 12 2016, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Apr 11 2016, 07:36 PM)
sometime in dec 2014, i am somewhat glad that i had some investment in overseas fund... not fully in malaysia.

Sometime in april 2015, i am somewhat cushioned by myr weakness that the drop in china didn't affect my cimb asia pac fund.

2nd half of 2015, quite glad i was invested in overseas fund...

april 2016... i should have dump all my money in kgf from day 1...

cheers...!!! just ranting, happy investing.
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rclxms.gif I like your honesty

Well... what's your next course of action? Average down? Stop? Take out?
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post Apr 13 2016, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Apr 13 2016, 08:09 AM)
only for women...

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Don't know if I should feel flattered or insulted that FSM feels that women needs dedicated workshop tailor made for them sweat.gif
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post Apr 18 2016, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(allenpee85 @ Apr 18 2016, 08:09 AM)


Have anyone making more than 8 pct from single fund in a short period? Let's say 6 months.
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If your timeframe is only 6 months I'd definitely advise you against unit trust; in 6 months time if your investment is making -5% then what would you do? If you must get back the money the only way is to sell at a loss
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post Apr 18 2016, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Apr 17 2016, 04:15 PM)
I am dumping Ponzi 2.0; its return is getting lower and lower whereas its volatility is increasing and increasing!

I am dumping it in lieu of RHB Asian Total Return Pink Spider - yes, you are right. RHB Asian Income also is a good alternative if you prefer a mixed asset fund.

RHB Asian Total Return is an Asia Pac Ex-Japan corporate bond exposed.

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Wow, what a drastic move

I'm actually thinking to dump Asian total return - main reason - the exposure to China corporate bond is 27% and 38% in financial services in terms of sector

I'm quite wary of the debt bubble in china....

Between the 3 funds my fav is Asian income but the fund it feeds into is not top notch also, but it's mixed assets including REITs, so it's more stable
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post Apr 18 2016, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Apr 18 2016, 02:28 PM)
Yeah, I liked Ponzi 2.0 for its low volatility, which was around 8.XX% back in 2015. Now its volatility has creeped up to almost 11.0%, it has exceeded my risk appetite, hence I change it to RHB Asian Income where its volatility is around 7.XX%.

What you say about RHB Asian Total Return is purely perception and personal opinion because  the numbers presented are still ok.

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Hmm.... facts vs perception
Actually I'm just parroting what the fund manager says .... http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/admin...eetMYRHBATR.pdf
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But anyway, choice of funds and asset allocation is personal to a certain extend
Just expressing my surprise with the sudden move from a pure equity fund to pure bond fund albeit in the same geographical market

This post has been edited by dasecret: Apr 18 2016, 02:42 PM
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post Apr 20 2016, 12:28 PM

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https://www.imoney.my/articles/how-to-achie...our-30s-40s-50s

This is such a badly written piece... All the expected returns plug from sky. How to consistent achieve 10% returns from fixed income and 22% returns from global funds. And I blame CIMB Principal since the article is written in partnership with them mad.gif

The only good about the article is the infographic, which I wish FSM can do more *to the FSM staff who is lurking here tongue.gif *
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post Apr 20 2016, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Apr 20 2016, 01:58 PM)

TQ for the comment; saves me data and time to open and read the link.  biggrin.gif

We are targetted audience and most of the time, it is all sales pitch... articles in FSM are no difference. Some of them may sound neutral, but I still read them cautiously; and usually they are repeats (after reading these 'financial' articles for months and years) - as how much (correct) info can one have regarding UTs.
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At the end of the day, all this info out there is to serve their own 'purposes'

So boss, any better source of neutral and reliable information that is well written and easy to digest? Can't stomach some of the analyst reports which eventually doesn't say anything. Not many people are willing to stick their necks out these days... in all aspects really
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post Apr 20 2016, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Apr 20 2016, 02:21 PM)
I read them for general info and entertainment - so it don't have to be easy to digest, as this means nothing new and boring!  smile.gif

PS. Pls don't call me 'boss' - else newbie would think I'm a moderator, or an expert. I'm just an investor sharing some experience (sometimes) and 2 cents bs (usually).
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Well, I was hoping to read something that helps on asset allocation because I believe that every now and then it has to be updated based on the directions of the market n growth potential
To me everyone who's more experienced n pron ably more invested than me is boss lor 😁
QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Apr 20 2016, 05:36 PM)
Hahaha.  biggrin.gif 22% return from global funds (???). I think Warren Buffett also has to close shop like this.

There is just so much BS out there. This reminds me of the passage from a finance book which goes something like this.

"Everyone has an opinion about how the share market will perform in the future. These are all speculations. If the speculation/prediction is correct, then the person is hailed as a genius. If the prediction is incorrect, then the person doesn't lose anything. The correct way is for all the fund managers, financial "genius" etc. to put their money where their mouth is. EACH PERSON WILL CONTRIBUTE USD100 into a cookie jar for each and every prediction that they make. At the end of the financial year, the person making the correct prediction will take all the money from the cookie jar".

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I just wish Malaysia move faster in this aspect so that ppl are less dependent on quasi 'guaranteed' investments like EPF, ASx funds n tabung haji

The more retail investors know the higher quality they would demand and therefore market forces would develope better n more competitive products
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post Apr 21 2016, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Apr 21 2016, 03:00 PM)
After about 1 year in FSM, i've decided to sell off about 70% of my entire holdings. Made a loss of about 7.5% overall. Now only left with CIMB Global Titans.  mad.gif
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Wow, that's a drastic move

What's your plan after this? Get a UT consultant or shy away from unit trust from now on?
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post Apr 21 2016, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Apr 21 2016, 03:33 PM)
Nope. Won't be going into Unit Trusts. With the current market conditions, there's just too much volatility in stocks. I'll keep my Global Titans for now and sell off later but will focus more into other forms of investments.
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What other form would you recommend at the moment? Properties in Msia is really slooow at the moment
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post Apr 22 2016, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 22 2016, 02:01 PM)
Guys, sorry for disturbing. Noob question. If I buy and hold no transaction done, will FSM charge me the annual management charge?
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Management fee is charged by the fund management company for deciding and executing the investment strategy, so yes, have to pay, the NAV is already net of management fee so you won't see a separate charge
There is also trustee fees for trustee holding the investment and executing the buy/sell instructions coming from fund managers. Deducted from NAV daily also
There are other expenses too. So one of the measure to compare would be to look at AER (Annual expense ratio) to gauge.

As for holding fee, FSM call that platform fee. For FSM Malaysia, they charge for certain bond fund such as RHB Asian Total Return Funds; at 0.05% per annum

Personally these are secondary consideration; the first would be whether they can provide superior returns. If cannot deliver returns, free also no point

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post Apr 22 2016, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(dexk @ Apr 21 2016, 09:48 PM)
Mind sharing which UT you bought or your portfolio?
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Too many funds blush.gif
Almost all the popular funds mention here also I have... definitely not a good example
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post Apr 22 2016, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 22 2016, 02:23 PM)
Cause I am thinking if we are holding the fund (there's no buy and sell transaction) and every year kena say annual charge of 1%, out returns already reduce by 1% already.
So let me get it straight. if the fund does not have extra charges other than the annual charges which are already factor into the NAV, we will not be deducted anything right?
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Yes, for FSM MY at the moment, holding does not cost you anything. But FSM singapore charges platform fee for equity funds as well. So in the future, who knows

Well, the annual management charge is to pay salary of the fund managers la. You want them to work for free? By the way, your beloved ASx fixed price funds also charges management fees and trustee fees as well, just that the AER is lower as the fund size is really huge compared to variable price UTs
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post Apr 25 2016, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Apr 25 2016, 05:19 PM)
I have sold off my remaining TA European Equity Fund. Going to cut down gradually on my equity funds and buy more bond funds.
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So what allocation ratio are you revising towards?

I was going to switch sell GEYF to RHB Islamic Bond at 2.50pm just now. Then arrive at the page that notified me that switching to bond fund also cost me RM25 vmad.gif

Then I hesitated and did not proceed with the transaction. Since you are the expert in switching, what are my other options? Sell to CMF and buy islamic bond?
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post Apr 25 2016, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Apr 25 2016, 05:54 PM)
Sorry, apa itu GEYF?

I am now currently only at 10.63% in bond funds. If follow my heart, I want to have 100% bond funds. If follow my brain, then it should be 60% bond funds and 40% equity funds.  smile.gif
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RHB Global Equity Yield Fund, not popular anymore

I'm holding a lot of cash, like 20% over the portfolio... now IRR lagging because of that sweat.gif but better than suffer losses I guess
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post Apr 26 2016, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Apr 25 2016, 10:37 PM)
Gosh you guys are selling?

i just whacked 10k  GTitans today since my Gtitans has been in red(-9.9%)
Got balance 17k 0% fee quota to go, any suggestion what is good to pick up?

RHB GEY was high last year >0.52.........,but mine is still +6.3% , advisable to sell and run??

thanks.
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Oops, not my intention to cause panic here. I've held GEYF for a while and its performance is just lackluster. So wanted to jump ship and put it into GTF la. Not exiting yet. But this RHB switching charges is quite annoying vmad.gif
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post Apr 26 2016, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Apr 26 2016, 02:25 PM)
Why you mati-mati want to go RHB? Eastspring tarak switching charge, AM asset management tarak, CIMB principle tarak, Affin-Hwang tarak.....

Use your power of consumer: boycott! It is not like they are the only UTMC around.

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Sudah bought it long long time ago la, now looking for a way to optimise it lor. Maybe the solution is just sell it outright which is what I did before

QUOTE(xuzen @ Apr 26 2016, 02:33 PM)
So, which bond fund you are looking at? Lai lai... come come with me go look at Libra Asnita Bond.

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I'm a fan of RHB Islamic Bond wor.... What's the edge for Asnita over RHB islamic bond?

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