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 C.Ronaldo vs A.Robben, Winger vs Winger. it's fair rite.

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post Jan 18 2008, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(air_mood @ Jan 18 2008, 02:11 PM)
What does his style of play has to do with anything?? They both play different position for starters so what does the style of play has to do with anything on the fact that who is the better player?? And if your argument that Kaka is a better player than Ronaldo because he won the FIFA player of the Year, then you're dead wrong. Luiz Ronaldo won it in 2002 on the back of 13 games with Inter Milan and a successful World Cup. It was said that he won it because football was just glad to have one of it's gems back. That's hardly good from thruout the year wasn't it?? Kaka won it on the back of a good CL, he's had a terrible time this year in the league as it was last season. The FIFA awards are shambles. Messi over Ronaldo was ridiculous considering the fact that Barca won nothing last season and Messi was out for a good 2,3 months due to injury and Barca are also shambles in the league this season. He probably won the award for most youtubed goal for that stunning goal against Getafe was it??

The question remains on who is the better player and you're pointing out attitude??? Johan Cruyff is widely acknowledge as one of the best players in the world to ever play the game and he is a real pain in the ass. One so ego that he wouldn't even sit with his own team-mates for eating session because he felt he was too good still there was no problem for fellow piers to acknowledge his ability because like it or not, he is a damn good footy player. Keano for example has had his problems with Jason McAteer to the point that Keano has elbowed him before but that doesn't stop McAteer from saying that Keano is one of the best. Any Man United fan would have remembered that horror tackle by Rooney on Ronaldo in the 03-04 season but that has never stopped Ronaldo from saying Rooney is one of the best he has ever played with. So if you're think attitude is the way to judge on hwo good a player is, then you're dead wrong if not, the likes of Zlatan, Adriano, Mido, Barton and others would have long detrred anyone from taking a chance on them.
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I would prefer someone who is on the middle to voice out the comment about Kaka and Ronaldo. Don't give me that Oh-i-dont-bias-just-because-im-manutd-fan. First. Who is Luis Ronaldo? And what about Zlatan, Adriano, Mido and Barton? They didn't win any award. And I didn't bring up the comparison between Kaka and Ronaldo, mind you. Trace back who said that. So you were trying to say that FIFA world player of the year is some association that does not matter to anyone? I doubt you would say so if Ronaldo is on the first spot.
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post Jan 18 2008, 02:27 PM

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Definitely is C.Ronaldo ! I am fans of thierry henry but after he leave EPL ,C.Ronaldo is the only one who can entertain me.
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post Jan 18 2008, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Jan 18 2008, 02:20 PM)
I would prefer someone who is on the middle to voice out the comment about Kaka and Ronaldo. Don't give me that Oh-i-dont-bias-just-because-im-manutd-fan. First. Who is Luis Ronaldo? And what about Zlatan, Adriano, Mido and Barton? They didn't win any award.  And I didn't bring up the comparison between Kaka and Ronaldo, mind you. Trace back who said that. So you were trying to say that FIFA world player of the year is some association that does not matter to anyone? I doubt you would say so if Ronaldo is on the first spot.
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Firstly, where did I say Ronaldo is a better player than Kaka??? My point is, you're quick to shoot them off and your best evidence to back that up is the FIFA Player of the Year award considering how shambles that award have been in recent times?? Henry, when he was at his peak never won it when he clearly should have for starters. Luiz Ronaldo, now of AC Milan. Previously of Real Madrid, Inter Milan, Barcelona, PSV Eindhoven and Santos, as far as I can recall. Fat Ronaldo if you will.

You point out attitude is the key to everything, the fact that which player is better or ability doesnt matter. The like sof Adriano, Zlatan and Mido are examples of players who are burdened with attitude rpoblem but never fail to command interest. Why?? Well, because they're that damn good. People want them because of their ability not just attitude. And as I pointed earlier, Johan Cruyff was one of the better example.

You didn't bring up the comparison but in your own words...

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And for those who think that Ronaldo is better than Kaka, no offense, but you sure dumb enough for not knowing his style of play


And as I said, you're quick to shoot them off. It's their right for starters to say who is the better player. Secondly your 'prove' to back it up is the fact that Kaka won the award which is weak if you ask me considering what shambles this awards has been. So let me ask you this, why did Kaka win the award then?? He had a terrible domestic season last season nad ditto this season. Is it because he won the CL which was the one competition that he impressed on??? And you think it only bothers me because Ronaldo didn't win it??? Ask me again whether it ever bothers me that the likes of Cantona, Keano, Giggsy, Beckham and Scholesy never won it and see if I give a feck.

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Jan 18 2008, 01:18 PM)
IMO Joe Cole is must complete player than Robben. Anyway, nuff' said. There's nothing much to compare. And please. If you want other team to start praising your team player, this is not how you do it. Who gives a shit about who is more better player? Attitude is the key if you ask me. Take Zidane for example. Even when he play for Real Madrid, he getting applause from rival fan as well. Why? Because his attitude.

And for those who think that Ronaldo is better than Kaka, no offense, but you sure dumb enough for not knowing his style of play. Check this link.
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the link u gave too me is totally funny
reading pele's comment really make me laugh
"Ronaldo and Messi have played some great football this year but they are not yet the most prominent players in their national teams," he said.
ronaldo is already the best portugal player, he scoring goals for fun and only 10 goals short to beat figo's goals in his entire career.. remember ronaldo is only 23 years old this year
pele was a great great player but now he is just an old man that talks nonsense.. he also favors brazillians way too much whistling.gif

anyway, ronaldo didnt head anybody.. he just head the ball into the goal flex.gif


Added on January 18, 2008, 4:51 pm
QUOTE(Belphegor @ Jan 18 2008, 02:20 PM)
I would prefer someone who is on the middle to voice out the comment about Kaka and Ronaldo. Don't give me that Oh-i-dont-bias-just-because-im-manutd-fan. First. Who is Luis Ronaldo? And what about Zlatan, Adriano, Mido and Barton? They didn't win any award.  And I didn't bring up the comparison between Kaka and Ronaldo, mind you. Trace back who said that. So you were trying to say that FIFA world player of the year is some association that does not matter to anyone? I doubt you would say so if Ronaldo is on the first spot.
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wow, u didnt even know the 3 times fifa world player of the year?
no wonder u r a chelsea fan

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post Jan 18 2008, 05:58 PM

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eh u got problem wif chelsea fan?
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post Jan 18 2008, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(MADReaLJL @ Jan 18 2008, 04:45 PM)
wow, u didnt even know the 3 times fifa world player of the year?
no wonder u r a chelsea fan
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This is a flame bait. I'm sure of it. So you have a problem with Chelsea fan? Why don't you act like a man, come out and let the football do the talking.

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post Jan 18 2008, 06:41 PM

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Seriously again I don't see any point of having this poll created, dead for some time and then re-open.. and then drag until now I can see man utd fan vs chelsea fan...
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post Jan 18 2008, 06:50 PM

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ronaldo wins...
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QUOTE(taor3n @ Jan 18 2008, 05:58 PM)
eh u got problem wif chelsea fan?
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im sorry for other TRUE chelsea fan since zola days

i means, common chelsea fans now are those who know about football start from 04/05
if u r supporting since zola days, congratz i say
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post Jan 18 2008, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(MADReaLJL @ Jan 18 2008, 07:39 PM)
im sorry for other TRUE chelsea fan since zola days

i means, common chelsea fans now are those who know about football start from 04/05
if u r supporting since zola days, congratz i say
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You aren't getting away from that. Even those who are supporters of Chelsea after Roman bought over, you still got no friggin rights to talk like that about them. FYI I'm Zola days.
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post Jan 18 2008, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(liquor1 @ Jan 18 2008, 01:51 PM)
based on the poll result... CR7 triple owns Robben tongue.gif
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yeah because u can always view Man U's posts... how many?? compared to other clubs... don't care really if those True Blue Fans want to start at which era they want.. everybody have right to choose... just bringing up this kind of topic is extremely really wanted by those post count hunters. to post and most of all flaming others.. why don't u guys just make this topic clean and nice.. don't just attack other ppl cos u think they were maggots or what u call them.. that's their right to speak to voice out.. doh.gif
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post Jan 18 2008, 10:29 PM

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enough fighting
ronaldo is better
he will be the best player of the season for sure rite?
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post Jan 18 2008, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(shah_ho_nam2 @ Jan 18 2008, 10:24 PM)
yeah because u can always view Man U's posts... how many?? compared to other clubs... don't care really if those True Blue Fans want to start at which era they want.. everybody have right to choose... just bringing up this kind of topic is extremely really wanted by those post count hunters. to post and most of all flaming others.. why don't u guys just make this topic clean and nice.. don't just attack other ppl cos u think they were maggots or what u call them.. that's their right to speak to voice out..  doh.gif
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even die hard liverpool fans say ronaldo's better. Seriously
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post Jan 18 2008, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(munky @ Jan 18 2008, 11:31 PM)
even die hard liverpool fans say ronaldo's better. Seriously
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ok i agreed on that.. no prob.. so let us see what he might achieve next .. cheerss
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post Jan 19 2008, 12:30 AM

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when dribble robben look more steady.....
but overall cr > rbn
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post Jan 19 2008, 12:34 AM

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Aiyo stop bringing up this thread please. let it go.. sweat.gif
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post Jan 19 2008, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Jan 19 2008, 01:34 AM)
Aiyo stop bringing up this thread please. let it go.. sweat.gif
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cannot useless some one lock or close it lol biggrin.gif while than have fun
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post Jan 19 2008, 01:13 AM

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I reckon both are different type of players, can't really compare, although both are "wingers" but different type. Just like both apples, but one's a Fuji and the other is a Royal Gala (please goggle it if you have no idea what I am trying to say).

Ronaldo tends to player more as a forward than a winger while Robben TRIES to be a forward, he is more of a midfielder who would run at players, take them on, draw them out to try to pass to the team mates. While Ronaldo would try to take them on and finish it off. Another thing is that Robben would normally arrive late in the box while Ronaldo is right in the thick of action, therefore not many would see the involvement of Robben compare to Ronaldo.

I hate to say this, but Ronaldo, if he has his head crewed on properly (which recent times showed that he still need some sense knock into him), can be like an Henry who plays from the right or left, or even better, but the only thing is that like Henry, he tends to go missing in big games which is why Kaka was rated above him (couldn't be arsed to go up and read the spat). Kaka often influence matches, altough being shackled by other players he'd stillbe able to influence the game, compare to Ronaldo who has gone missing one too many times in big matches. I know I'd get knocked by his supporters when I say this, but please do point out matches, I mean big matches where he has a big say in it or influence it properly. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 19 2008, 01:24 AM

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well there's next match again against Milan at san siro
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post Jan 19 2008, 01:31 AM

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Bramble>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Zidane anytime..............................................oops wrong thread

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