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C.Ronaldo vs A.Robben, Winger vs Winger. it's fair rite.
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Belphegor
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Jan 18 2008, 10:00 AM
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So much for a comparison eh? I would rather let the team performance do the talking instead of coming out discussion like this. What's next? Who's better between Ferdinand and Terry? Or Essien and Hargreaves? Maybe Anelka and Rooney?
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Belphegor
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Jan 18 2008, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(MADReaLJL @ Jan 18 2008, 12:03 PM) actually this poll is fair chelsea best winger vs mu best winger (keep in mind this is 2 years old thread i think) personally i choose cr7 becoz he is just a complete player can head, two footed with good long shot, fast with the ball, great acceleration, scoring for fun, great dribbling, great vision, ton of tricks, can take freekick and penalty kick, can defend ( i mean trackback helping the fullback), can play as striker also etc robben in his first 2 seasons are great (dribling accuracy, have pace, scoring goals), but later mourinho changed the formation already so he was not suited anymore in chelsea, summore injury prone.. now at real rarely watch him play so cant comment much on recent performance IMO Joe Cole is must complete player than Robben. Anyway, nuff' said. There's nothing much to compare. And please. If you want other team to start praising your team player, this is not how you do it. Who gives a shit about who is more better player? Attitude is the key if you ask me. Take Zidane for example. Even when he play for Real Madrid, he getting applause from rival fan as well. Why? Because his attitude. And for those who think that Ronaldo is better than Kaka, no offense, but you sure dumb enough for not knowing his style of play. Check this link. This post has been edited by Belphegor: Jan 18 2008, 01:31 PM
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Belphegor
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Jan 18 2008, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(air_mood @ Jan 18 2008, 02:11 PM) What does his style of play has to do with anything?? They both play different position for starters so what does the style of play has to do with anything on the fact that who is the better player?? And if your argument that Kaka is a better player than Ronaldo because he won the FIFA player of the Year, then you're dead wrong. Luiz Ronaldo won it in 2002 on the back of 13 games with Inter Milan and a successful World Cup. It was said that he won it because football was just glad to have one of it's gems back. That's hardly good from thruout the year wasn't it?? Kaka won it on the back of a good CL, he's had a terrible time this year in the league as it was last season. The FIFA awards are shambles. Messi over Ronaldo was ridiculous considering the fact that Barca won nothing last season and Messi was out for a good 2,3 months due to injury and Barca are also shambles in the league this season. He probably won the award for most youtubed goal for that stunning goal against Getafe was it?? The question remains on who is the better player and you're pointing out attitude??? Johan Cruyff is widely acknowledge as one of the best players in the world to ever play the game and he is a real pain in the ass. One so ego that he wouldn't even sit with his own team-mates for eating session because he felt he was too good still there was no problem for fellow piers to acknowledge his ability because like it or not, he is a damn good footy player. Keano for example has had his problems with Jason McAteer to the point that Keano has elbowed him before but that doesn't stop McAteer from saying that Keano is one of the best. Any Man United fan would have remembered that horror tackle by Rooney on Ronaldo in the 03-04 season but that has never stopped Ronaldo from saying Rooney is one of the best he has ever played with. So if you're think attitude is the way to judge on hwo good a player is, then you're dead wrong if not, the likes of Zlatan, Adriano, Mido, Barton and others would have long detrred anyone from taking a chance on them.  I would prefer someone who is on the middle to voice out the comment about Kaka and Ronaldo. Don't give me that Oh-i-dont-bias-just-because-im-manutd-fan. First. Who is Luis Ronaldo? And what about Zlatan, Adriano, Mido and Barton? They didn't win any award. And I didn't bring up the comparison between Kaka and Ronaldo, mind you. Trace back who said that. So you were trying to say that FIFA world player of the year is some association that does not matter to anyone? I doubt you would say so if Ronaldo is on the first spot.
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Belphegor
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Jan 18 2008, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE(MADReaLJL @ Jan 18 2008, 04:45 PM) wow, u didnt even know the 3 times fifa world player of the year? no wonder u r a chelsea fan This is a flame bait. I'm sure of it. So you have a problem with Chelsea fan? Why don't you act like a man, come out and let the football do the talking. This post has been edited by Belphegor: Jan 18 2008, 06:09 PM
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Belphegor
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Jan 18 2008, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE(MADReaLJL @ Jan 18 2008, 07:39 PM) im sorry for other TRUE chelsea fan since zola days i means, common chelsea fans now are those who know about football start from 04/05 if u r supporting since zola days, congratz i say You aren't getting away from that. Even those who are supporters of Chelsea after Roman bought over, you still got no friggin rights to talk like that about them. FYI I'm Zola days.
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Belphegor
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Jan 19 2008, 12:34 AM
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Aiyo stop bringing up this thread please. let it go..
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Belphegor
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Jan 19 2008, 09:17 PM
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still can't end this discussion eh?
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Belphegor
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Jan 20 2008, 02:22 AM
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QUOTE(yngwie @ Jan 19 2008, 06:12 PM) c ronaldo already won an awards 1 - 0 So er, what's the two premiership title while he was with Chelsea?
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Belphegor
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Jan 21 2008, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jan 21 2008, 12:16 AM) Yes, year 1999 is the best proof. I still remember that. We swept 3 trophies and our best 11 players that time really on top form especially the 4 midfielders (giggs-scholes-keane-becks) and 2 free scoring strikers (cole-yorke) and yet the award goes to Rivaldo FIFA Player of the Year award to date will only awarded to players who is playing in Spain or Italy only. Why EPL players can't win it? I can't tell you why...ask FIFA President  Maybe I should say, English players are overrated?
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Belphegor
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Jan 21 2008, 01:17 AM
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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Jan 21 2008, 01:13 AM) They will always be. But considering the form of the players at that time, well they should've won something? Don't ask me. I don't want to be flame later..  I'll keep my own opinion to myself..
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Belphegor
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Jan 21 2008, 02:09 AM
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QUOTE(air_mood @ Jan 21 2008, 01:55 AM) No issue of flaming if what is being said makes sense. But the fact remains you seem to have a problem recognizing or heaving praise on anything remotely linked to Man United. Pele could be playing for Man United and still you would not recognize his talents because he is playing for Man United. Let's hear your opinions then on why you think Rivaldo won the FIFA Player Of The Year in 1999 irregardless of the fact we swept everything. No comment.  I know I'll be bias. So I'll keep my comment. Oh btw, I'm an admirer of Ferdinand, Ronney and Hargreaves. This post has been edited by Belphegor: Jan 21 2008, 02:10 AM
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