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post Jul 7 2021, 11:15 AM

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Hi all sifu, nice active group here...

i just got my car less than 2 week...
just realize there's minor scratch as below photo (not sure is it due to my careless car wash sweat.gif ), anyway to remove it without polish?

p/s: ignore the dirty, just caught my car in rain yesterday

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post Jul 10 2021, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 10 2021, 07:16 AM)
no way without polish.

have some patience, and try to stick to hand polishing as it is sitting on an edge and machine polishing may burn off your clearcoat and god forbid paint.
done that mistake on my sister's new car however seeing as i did more good correcting the damage on that area resulted of a fender bender at the parking lot scraping a pillar, all is good.
hey bro, thank alot for ur expert advice notworthy.gif

btw, if using two bucket hand wash without grit guard is it okay? any correct method to do so?
i'm trying achieve less item to carry during car wash
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post Jul 10 2021, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 10 2021, 03:55 PM)
Does it get caught by finger nail? If no, those wax with lots of fillers might be able to cover it up (but its not permanent and temporary only).
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i think is by fingernail when close trunk, i guess
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post Jul 10 2021, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 10 2021, 03:49 PM)
No right or wrong, depends on your preference, requirements.

Grit guards are meant to ward off dirt recirculating in your cloth.
So if you prefer to have less dirt getting back on your car potentially scratching it, use lo.

On other hand, if not bothered, can just clay/polish every few months, don't use grit guards also won't die. (Majority of outside car wash also never use)

Personally I use, but I wash once every few weeks/months, 1 year less than 5-6 wash or so.
Dirt does get accumulated and the wash mitt/sponge will get very dirty
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looks like my option either grit guard or get around 6 wash mitt (without recycle it) for wash entire car...

or just PPF, less hassle on scratches/ car wash/ high speed stone chips..maybe im just too OCD tongue.gif
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post Jul 11 2021, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 11 2021, 01:04 AM)
I mean if can you feel the scratch with finger nail? If you slide your fingernail across and it gets caught in it... then its likely too deep.
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Nope. Can’t feel the scratch. Still smooth as it is.
Not sure is that scratch mark on wax
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post Jul 12 2021, 09:28 AM

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anyone using turtle wax seal and shine? any honest review?
online research show alot positive comment on Seal and Shine, and the robust long last

but, looks like alot sifu here using Meguiars HCW yo...

in dilemma of choosing the one xD
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post Jul 13 2021, 03:54 PM

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speaking of stone chips, how u guys deal with it?

1) Paint Repair Kit
2) Paint Protection Film
3) Avoid Driving near to infront vehicle (especially truck, lorry)
4) Repaint the car after few year

etc....
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post Jul 16 2021, 03:34 PM

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hi sifu,
how to take care leather seat, especially in Cognac color?
like prevent it from dirty or dye from jeans...

any leather care product recommended?
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post Jul 17 2021, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(newhouseowner @ Jul 17 2021, 11:20 AM)
Leather care product doesn't work that way. It only clean, condition and protect from UV, make it last longer before it totally crack. It will still get dirty eventually. By the way, I'm using meguiar one, you check the video in the forum if you want. plenty brand out there, choose the one suitable for you.

Oh yeah, my coach also used meguiar one, none a single line of crack so far after 6 years of usage, being everyday usage and blast by air conditioning.
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is this the one u using?
https://www.meguiars.com/automotive/product...-conditioner-uv
Meguiar’s Ultimate Leather Detailer - Leather Cleaner, Leather Conditioner & UV Protection

is it safe to use on light color leather? like the cognac or white leather?
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post Jul 17 2021, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(newhouseowner @ Jul 17 2021, 08:25 PM)
No, I'm using the balm below
https://www.meguiarsdirect.com/meguiars-ult...r-balm-5oz.html
The differences between the ultimate leather detailer and balm is the detailer type is more on cleaning, whereas the balm type is more on protection. I'm referring to the formulation even though both packaging stated the same thing which is clean, condition and protect.

As far as I know, meguiar leather care product is suitable for all colour as long as it is leather.
My 6 years coach protected by meguiar ultimate leather balm
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looks good, thanks for recommendation icon_idea.gif
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post Jul 18 2021, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(newhouseowner @ Jul 18 2021, 09:07 AM)
Let me make the poison deeper. I still on my first balm, as meguiar always said, a little goes a long way brows.gif
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wow...poison wei drool.gif
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post Jul 24 2021, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(Scissorshand @ Jul 24 2021, 02:47 PM)
OK couldn't resist myself since my son gave 2 cars a good wash yesterday upon returning from my evening run.

Applied remaining SnS and Cerakote Graphene on diff cars yesterday night after Olympic opening. My personal review on both products...

Cerakote Graphene+Ceramic Spray Coating (CG)
Very easy to apply, streak free 👏 and easy to buff off 👍 unlike SnS although SnS is still much better than Osren Luminous by far
At 225pm today, the smoothness level is very close to SnS
CG has a smell which I don't like it compared to fruity SnS which smells great
Gloss on par for both although the cars are different in colours
CG price is still on par if calculated based on cost per oz against TW Graphene Flex Wax (I'm a cheapskate but willing to try out the cheapest graphene 😂)
Watermark unknown yet
Beading or sheeting not tested... 😂😂😂
Reliability unknown until Xmas... 😂😂😂

Note: Both cars were coated with cheap $50 DPro Ceramic Glass coating before CNY and the coat is still doing great
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nice....would like to see some real malaysia weather comparison between TW Seal n Shine vs Cerakote Graphene icon_idea.gif
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post Aug 2 2021, 04:23 PM

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aikss, discover my 1month old new car contaminate with paint overspray

probably due to the place i park nearby got factory that working on spraying job, and those paint fly and bond to my car paint...

damn heartbroke wei, when feel the car no longer smooth to touch...

does Clay really able to remove the contamination?

pls advise sifu

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post Aug 3 2021, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Aug 3 2021, 01:18 PM)
If detect early, and attended early it is fairly to remove. But if it has been baked under the sun for several days/weeks then going to be tougher.
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just received the clay that i bought from shopee, will try it out later evening...
i detect it during weekly car wash (which is last sunday), when after i apply Turtle Wax Seal n Shine, i try to touch my car to feel the smoothness, then found it cover with a paint spray flew from factory that i parked nearby sad.gif

some say the paint spray able to travel few streets away.. shocking.gif
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post Aug 3 2021, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(sonotme @ Aug 3 2021, 06:25 PM)
I hope u didnt buy those fake 3M clay bars..
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Just done clay.
And realize after clay it even more worse, the paint get minor scratch.
I follow proper step to keep the paint and clay as lube as possible.

And ya. I bought the 3m clay from Shopee. Not sure is it fake.

Looks like the last resort is to polish the car.

Heart paint, just a month old car.
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post Aug 3 2021, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Aug 3 2021, 04:05 PM)
These spray paint usually don't stick well on clear coat compared to primer coat... basically react fast should can save it fast. Worse come to worse, need to polish/compound.
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Already did clay. End up leave a lot swirl and scratches.

Polish or compound any different ?
Is it advice to polish/compound a month old car?

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post Aug 3 2021, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(sonotme @ Aug 3 2021, 08:57 PM)
If its those cheap 3M clay bars, most likely its fake. Anyways u already clay it, it will induce some scratches no matter what..
If the scratch is obvious, there are scratch removers like meg n turtlewax that would do the job too..
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is there anymore possibility/outcome that will make things worse when i apply scratch remover product ? sweat.gif

phobia ard, the more car care product i apply the car.. the worse it gone... sad.gif

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post Aug 3 2021, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Aug 3 2021, 09:17 PM)
Marring from clay bar can easily remove by polish, no problem la. Clay bar will induce marring anyways.
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yea, marring is the correct term refer to the scratches from claying...

lucky i clay in one direction, else the marring more ugly
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post Aug 4 2021, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(sk41 @ Aug 4 2021, 09:10 AM)
i bought the cheap 3m clay bar at shopee (less than rm10) for my old kelisa, so far the clay bar did it job very well, in terms of removing bugs, tar, bird poop, etc... because i can feel & differentiate the smoothness of the paint surface before & after
but how do we differentiate the fake & good one?
even the one from PG is almost rm50
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does claying process cause marring ur car paint?

i regret to clay my new car, now my whole car include the plastic frame around the windows , headlight and tail light is marring... cry.gif

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QUOTE(more2teayap @ Aug 4 2021, 10:02 AM)
Same here I bought the 3M clay but not sure fake or not, but it's feels weird, hard to tear and feels really rough. It's my first time using clay so I got no idea how those expensive ones like.

I used alot of soap for lubrication while claying too, but still it still leave scratches after done I think it's either not enough lubrication, i applied too much pressure or there are too many contamination on the clay. So yeah after clay, just polish to regain the shine.
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car paint able to remove swirl and marring by polish/ compound

how about headlight/ tail light/ frame around windows?



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