This or Ultimate Compound.

Both works well.

Compound may be better in certain scenarios especially for cars with dull paint or severe swirls.

Yeah, you can work that on hand definitely. What is your target and what do you plan to achieve?

No worries bro.

We all start somewhere too.

Just wondering, before you applied the coat, did you do any surface prep? Claying the car etc?

Swirl marks.. Yea, the bane of detailers.

Usually those swirl removers do a decent job if apply by hand but if really want good results, need to get a DA.

For me, I also bought a DA from Osren for < RM900 I think, before I added on the polish and pads etc. DA is quite user friendly vs rotary...

I see. It's ok. You can either wait for the existing coat to deteriorate or just speed up by washing the car as normal and prepping it with the clay bar. Claying will remove the surface contaminants. You can feel it with your fingers, or what some people call it the plastic bag test. So far I didn't use the 'bag' method cos I use my fingers to gauge the surface if it's smooth or not.

You can likely test it on your roof/boot/bonnet area and the surface may feel 'rough' or 'sandy' even after you've just washed it. That's when you know the surface isn't smooth.

For swirls, you either need a polish or compound - depending on the severity.

There are many products out there, some also called AIO [All In One] where they polish and wax the surface; although it's usually advisable to get a proper polish. Wax is basically a final layer/coat on your ride on lock in the shine. Waxing without surface prep won't last as long as a car that has undergone surface prep as it helps remove all those contaminants and what nots and polishing will help restore some lustre into the paint.

Luckily your ride is silver, so the swirls aren't so 'visible' from afar.

I would say, depends on your budget, and whether going down the DA route is something you are keen on doing.

I also bought the Hurricane last year but ended up using it only once... My detailing is mostly done by hand, cos of time constraints and I am forgoing the joys of a perfect and swirl free car for the time being... 

I would say, best to go visit the Osren HQ if you really still feeling in doubt whether you really need to get a DA... Try it out in person and they are more than helpful to demo also if the chance arises.

Removing swirl marks, I guess actually AIO with machine might be your best bet. It doesn't deep swirls, but if you have good wash routines, 2 buckets etc the swirls won't be that deep. TW S&S is one of the best, but price in Malaysia quite high compared to in the US.

If you consider second hand unit, I might let go mine cause I just bought new cordless GA.
Actually, what I think is better clay only if you plan to polish. If don't plan to polish the claying adds more marrings. I would rather have a less perfect sio2 spray application than adding more marrings.
Hurricane DA is a 15mm throw, which is pretty much the balanced system. I've tried the Hurricane v1 pretty good. I think the china options are Shinemate, Sunpo, and recently SPTA you can consider. I'm using Osren DAP8 (8mm DA, its actually a das6pro), which works fine for Honda paint, usually the japanese are tend to be on softer side compared to continentals.

mazelol I was wondering how you jumped from the idea of hand polishing to machine polishing in such a short time, seems like you have been in contact with Osren hahaha

I would just like to add a few point in addition to Woodentiger bro's good advice.

-If you do plan to do machine polishing, do manage your expectations. There is a learning curve to it.

-Some deep scratches are not worth polishing it off. Paint preservation is more important than paint correction.

-if you want affordable DA machine, you can search for Shinemate. Osren's machine cost a bit more, but Osren offers good after sales service if you get it from them.

No worries man. If you have the time and convenient to go to their HQ, go for it. I went a couple of times and both occasions I didn't come back empty handed la. 

Anyways, not sure about the distilled water part but I would suggest getting at least a lubricant such as quick detailer etc. I think you can google clay lubricant and see what are the results. As bro celciuz shared earlier, be prepared to polish if you indeed opt for claying. The sensation after a proper clay session + wax application is blissful though. You can literally see items rolling off the surface... like placing bottles on the engine and it'll just slide around effortlessly. Haha.

One thing about hand application - it will require several 'passes' by hand to at least minimise the swirls you have. If you really want to remove the swirls to get a mirror-like finish or bring out the flakes in your paint, best to use a machine.

Imitation 3M bro.

I bought one recently too but haven't had the chance to use it.

If you get the chance to visit Osren's HQ, try asking them on the differences between clay cloth, towel, and bar. I actually bought my clay cloth from Osren after many years of clay bars, mainly cos of the convenience & ease of use.

Meg's Quik Detailer is a decent product. I usually use it in between washes if my car isn't heavily soiled.

You can try searching for ADM Quik Detailer also. I bought it recently from bro Waliuuu but haven't gotten round to using it yet.

Woodentiger's Reviews

Was trawling thru some old posts and found out that I used to have all sorts of products in the past - so here's a much delayed review as the pics were dated 2015.

Armorall Ultra Shine [RM28.60]



Foaming in action:




End result after a few minutes:






Gloss: 8/10
Ease of Use: 10/10 [spray only]
Durability: ? [cannot recall honestly] 

Very nice beading...

Sheeting will come when you pour water or use a hose instead - likely...

Cos the beads will pull each other and fall off the car...

Wow, the effect looks good even without any polish.

Wondering how insane it will be after polishing too - likely more shiny.

So far foam type - I don't encounter severe cases of slinging.

Yea, Meg's Endurance - somehow quite normal to have that effect... Sometimes see it sling until the bottom of both front doors and also the rear bumper behind the wheelarches... Aduh.

I think this might be prevalent for most gel type tyre shines, like Waxco and Tupps too.

That's why spray looks attractive but their cans doesn't last long if user is too trigger happy.

Using waxco, never had that problem

My headlight is getting a little yellowish.

What should i get to remove it?

One need to buff off after a few minutes, after applying the tyre dressing..... But ayam lazy... just use less and "buff" with applicator sponge
oi... show the machine la 

Another update:

Had the chance to meet up with bro V429 on Sunday as sharing 4L of Nano Wash from Osren. 20L is huge man!

Nice fella and good to meet fellow detailers too.

My impressions of Nano Wash - quite sudsy and foaming also with a small capful in pail of water and I tested it on my mum's ride. I guess the difference on Osren's site between Nano and Bubble Wash is the 'wet-look' that the latter purports to have...

Scent wise - Nano Wash is quite decent too.

Bro, enjoy the Meg's samples. Haha. Looking forward to your reviews also if time permits.

Anyways, sharing some shots of the Glaco and Mirror Coat Zero in action on my side mirrors last week:

1. Front Windscreen - beads galore!


2. Side Mirrors coated with MCZ - pardon the beads on my side windows but you can see how clear and 'DRY' they looked even in heavy downpour...


3. Truly appreciate the clear side mirrors in our weather.

https://shopee.com.my/Waxco-Tyre-Shine-(500...32128.891640176
it finishes shiny matte black. not glossy

mr diy got

Waxco is decent.

But for sheer shine, Meg's Endurance is one of the top contenders.

Probably may need to really use the applicator and wipe the gel into the sidewalls thoroughly to minimise the amount of product sticking on the tyres?

try Osren's tyre dressing applicator pad, its dense so product wont get absorbed too much into the applicator and you can use less product

https://osren.com/product/tools-and-accesso...tor/tire-sponge
try Meguiar's All Season Dressing (liquid) or Osren's Reblack (Gel)

just make a list la

Osren Nano Wash Group buy 20L, 4L per person/slot
1.MazeLoL
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3.
4.
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Just to share on friend's car restoration project.
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I think just use back the applicator you have, rub it a couple more rounds on the tyre will do? It should be able to rub the excess gel into the surface. I'm guessing la. Instead of using an extra rag or shirt to wipe it off.

I bought 1L Reblack, used once on my black trims and when contact with water also it drip... but I used for tire actually quite ok lasts about 2-3 weeks. (Well, need to use it up anyways).

wait until you feel the G-Force