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post Jun 16 2020, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(MazeLoL @ Jun 16 2020, 11:33 AM)
Hmm . im working on my 2 years almost 3 years Toyota Altis in Silver color. The car hasn't been doing detailing works since i took it from new. Recently just wash & coat with Osren (Coat) and the rest is not yet being done and i notice there is some swirl mark all over the car and i just trying to remove swirl marks and some minor scratches . Hence im seeking some professional opinion from forum here  biggrin.gif

Due to MCO giving me more time to do these things and recently just brought some Osren "reblack" and Turtle Wax Seal & Shine since im seeing alot great review about it .

Furthermore looking into some DA polisher ranging from Rm300 to Rm1k does it make a different ? as i seeing the OPM is ranging around 2k - 5k+ , can share some opinion in best bang for buck DA?
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Something from Shinemate would be fine, and they range from RM500 to RM600. Or you can get a Rupes Duetto for RM999 on Shopee right now. It doesn't matter what machine you use. Just remember to practice proper techniques, and use quality liquids and pads. A DA can cut as fast a rotary, so keep that in mind.

But most importantly, always remember that your clearcoat is extremely thin. Always have paint preservation in mind.

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post Jun 16 2020, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(ZGMF-X24S @ Jun 16 2020, 07:34 AM)
hi all, is it really true that ceramic coating are more susceptible to water spots? especially rain and tap water

here's my case, i brought my gf's car for ceramic coating, after few weeks there are very obvious water spots on the roof and windows of the car
then i brought the car back for coating maintenance, after that it looks good again
but then just few weeks after maintenance, the water spots are back

comparing to my 5 year old car, which has no ceramic coating, my car hardly has any water spots on the paint job, just on the windows

if coating adds more water spots to the car, why do people actually want to coat their car with ceramic coating?
and is there any quick way to prevent the water spots in a long run?

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There are no ceramic-based coatings out there that are truly resistant to water-spotting. You are literally applying a layer of glass on your car. And what happens to your bathroom glass or mirror when they get exposed to water? Mineral deposits. The same effect happens on a ceramic coating. One should always take coating maker's claims with rolling eyes.

And unfortunately, there is absolutely no way to totally prevent water spots other than to park indoors or constantly dry your car after getting it wet. And it's worst when you have hard water in your area.

But one thing I would do to a ceramic coated car is to constantly apply a sacrificial topper after each weekly wash. The maintenance service for coatings is basically the detailer decontaminating and removing water spots, and then apply a sacrificial layer of silica-based sealant. Some would use a "non-abrasive cleaner" like Carpro Essence+ or IGL F4 Renew to lightly buff off stains and hard watermarks. Some do take the effort to actually recoat some parts of the car, but that is absolutely rare.

That is why a ceramic coating IS NOT for everyone. It requires more effort and cost to maintain a coated car. So hopefully the upcoming graphene-based coatings can fix that once and for all.

Hope this helps.

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post Jul 16 2020, 06:37 PM

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My set of Hybrid Solutions just arrived today. I'll try to do a write up when I'm free...

Edit: Before this, I've been using the Ceramic Polish & Wax on my client's cars. Safe to say, it's a brilliant product and my clients are very happy with the results. It's pad dependent so you can adjust the cut and finish to your liking. Have yet to test the other products in the range.

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post Jul 16 2020, 07:43 PM

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As for the blower, I'm ordering a Flex BW 18.0 since I'm going to have a set of their 5.0Ah batteries. It's about 1.9KG with the 5.0Ah battery or 1.6kg with the 2.5Ah battery. Was thinking about the Bosch ones with the CORE batteries but decided to streamlined all to Flex.
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post Jul 17 2020, 01:28 AM

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[quote=celciuz,Jul 17 2020, 12:00 AM]
Been eye-ing on that Ceramic Polish & Wax, based on the reviews it has really long working time... how does it compared against say HD Speed or Rupes Uno Protect I wonder. Both of them are able to mask defects pretty well but lack the SiO2 infused wax for the finishing.

I have no experience with HD speed or Uno Protect. But it blows Carpro Essence out of the water in terms of cut and finish. It doesn't contain fillers, so it's a true correction. I'll put the cutting power at about 50-60% defect removal since I mainly use it as a single step polish & wax anyways. Less goes a long way for this product, so it is an absolute value proposition.

And yes, working time is very long due to the proprietary ceramic platelet abrasives which also provides a more consistent cut in my experience across many paint types. I usually top it up with Seal N Shine (old formula) or Carpro Reload, which is still going strong for my clients after 2 months. So the Ceramic Spray Coating should yield similar results if not better.

I have also just ordered a set of 3D abrasives including HD Speed. Will try to compare both of them and hopefully write up a review here soon. But I doubt HD Speed can out muscle it.

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post Jul 17 2020, 11:02 PM

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Alright. Just got my 3D Speed today. Hope to get a test panel by next week to compare these.

But between the Carpro and TW, TW is a far superior product for far lesser money.


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post Jul 18 2020, 05:49 PM

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Carpro Essence is actually one of the first SiO2 AIO in the market. It doesn't have a lot of cut in my opinion, but it does contain fillers and the finish is actually decent. It is mainly used as a primer for Cquartz, similar to Gyeon Primer or the more recent Dr. Beasley's NSP series.

Actually, I'm also waiting for my stockpile of IGL products to arrive, including IGL Renew F4 which is a Graphene-based AIO.

Perhaps I shall compare them all at once. Stay tuned!
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post Aug 24 2020, 11:49 PM

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Just want to share some good stuff here. I got them from Taobao.

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Just got my Takenow Flycolor lights and the first impression is nothing but exceptional. Built quality is solid, and I suspect they are from the same OEM manufacturer.

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The handheld version has a magnetic bottom and back. Temperatures range from 2700K, 4500K and 6500K.

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The headlight also has 3 different colour temperatures to choose from. Just like the Scangrip I-Match, it comes with a hand gesture sensor for easy on/off with just a waive. But you can't change temperatures on the fly with this feature.

The battery life should be about 2 hours for these. Which shouldn't be an issue.

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post Aug 24 2020, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Aug 24 2020, 11:52 PM)
When is your TakeNow WL4111S manufacturing date, and are you able to switch to the 250lm settings on the fly?
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Not too sure. And no, it's just an on/off and temperature switch.

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post Aug 25 2020, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Aug 25 2020, 12:09 AM)
Try holding the power button if you could lower to 250lm. Mine was the first gen, fixed to 500lm and supposedly the newer model is able to adjust to 250lm when needed.
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Thanks for the info. No date of manufacturing unfortunately. Instructions states that it automatically drops down to 250lm after 5 minutes. Long pressing the power button only props up the battery indicator.

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post Aug 25 2020, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(V429 @ Aug 25 2020, 01:44 AM)
Nice! smile.gif How is the headlamp in terms of paint inspection? Or is it more suitable for general purpose lighting?
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Legit good for everything. But the handheld one definitely has better defect spotting capabilities.

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post Aug 25 2020, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(pml5165 @ Aug 25 2020, 09:04 AM)
hi all, just gotten my black color new car.
Still nice and shine, was thinking applying some protection layer, will skip waxing since most of the people mentioned that new car will be having a thick layer of protection so that can be skipped.
I usually wipe clean car with water once/twice, shampoo wash once every 2 or 3weeks.
For a start for this car, im thinking of applying the coating product below,
-Soft99 Fusso Wax
-Meguiar's Hybrid Creamic Spray Wax
Can someome please give some suggestion which to use or any other recommendation? Thanks!
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Sorry to ask, but who told you that you can skip waxing/protection for a new car? That "thick layer of protection" is your clear coat, unless you have a ceramic coating professionally applied. Which in that case, is also in need of proper care and maintenance.

The products you listed above are not "coatings" per se. They merely contain SiO2 which is the main ingredient for most ceramic coatings in the market right now. I list them as ceramic sealants instead.

As for recommendations, there is no such thing as a one product fits all. But my advice is find something that specifically mentions UV protection, because not all products contain UV inhibitors.

Hope this helps.

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post Oct 11 2020, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Oct 9 2020, 11:00 PM)
Hey guys, at 4:20 in the video below, this guy uses a foam/sponge to soak into ONR and to wipe onto the surface. Is a sponge recommended or a MF wash Mitt is recommended?

Recommended wash mitt? Wash mitt from Osren and ADM solutions sold out already. .

What about this?
https://shopee.com.my/product/23171084/2738...54-1602256167.9



One more thing, after the step at 4:20, he proceeded to wipe off thre ONR+remaining dirt using a microfibre cloth. I notice different types of MFT, so should I be getting a drying towel right instead of a buffing towel to do this?
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That's Optimum's Big Red Sponge designed to compliment ONR. Dr. Ghodoussi and his team has tested countless sponge materials. It's totally safe but not cheap. OPT Malaysia has it in stock. I prefer to use a MF mitt on my customer's cars because the BRS ain't flexible enough to reach tight spots.

Any quality MF would do. But I do use a drying towel.

Btw, Brian Spitler from that video is a well respected detailer. He knows what he's doing.

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post Oct 14 2020, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Oct 11 2020, 12:17 PM)
As usual, appreciate the replies! thumbup.gif

By the way, do you all use separate MFT for drying and buffing? I feel like it's better to have separate MFT for my rinseless washes for the last step where I may pick up dirt and all ( first step spray ONR> soak sponge/washmitt and wipe car> buff with MFT)..... and separate MFTs for buffing off waxes/sealants/Si02 coatings. Don't wanna mix them up..

Btw, any recommended items for the following, hopefully not too expensive:

1) Good quality wash mitt. Does it need to have like high thickness of 350gsm++?
2) Spray bottle
3) Cordless vacuum for the car - Possible something good below RM200?
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I have separate towels for different purposes. I am a professional detailer so I have to invest in A LOT of towels to avoid cross contamination and lint.

Most of my stuff are from Taobao. Spray bottles can buy from Daiso or Mr.Diy. Black & Decker has some decent cordless vacuums. If you have the budget, you can get the Flex VC 6.
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post Oct 30 2020, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Oct 30 2020, 03:56 PM)
Will be quite troublesome if the car is wet and I'm outside for the entire day. For this case, really need some good Si02 spray so that water would just fly off when vroom vroom brows.gif I think I'll also keep some MF towels in the car just in case.

Yeah new design not sure if it works well or not.
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I do not recommend that method, you are going to cause a lot of swirls, marring and possible a few random isolated deep scratches (RIDS). I say leave it until the next wash.

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post Oct 30 2020, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Oct 30 2020, 06:21 PM)
Thanks. I think you are referring to using MF towel to wipe off the rain water on the car? Why would it cause swirls/marring/etc then? I thought its just like drying a car?
Thanks. 1:16 ONR for removing all those bird shit but how does it work for drying the car? hmm.gif
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There will be an accumulation of dirt and grime, so there will be chances of causing damage no matter how expensive your MF towels are because paint is that sensitive. You are essentially dragging around the dirt and grime without any form of lubrication. Water itself is not a good lubricant. That's why it's best to leave it until the next wash. If you absolutey want to proceed, then always use lubricants such as ONR or ECH20.

These lubricants, quick detailers, drying aid or whatever they are called usually contain essential water softeners to lower the surface tension of water so as to allow the water itself to flush the said dirt and grime effectively. ONR works a little differently by using proprietary polymers that actually encapsulate the dirt and grime as you clean or wipe away. You can actually see it working if you look closely enough...

Hope this helps.

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post Oct 30 2020, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Oct 30 2020, 09:27 PM)
Thanks for the info and reminder. I totally forgot about the dirt and grime that comes together with the rain water.

Since I have ONR with me now, I'll keep the spray bottle in the car to use it as a quick detailer if needed. The usual 1:256 dilution should suffice right?  smile.gif
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Rainwater has more than dirt and grime, it has mineral deposits as well. You get the idea.

I usually add half a cap to my 2L sprinkler, or one full cap to a 500ml spray bottle as clay lube.

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post Nov 5 2020, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(volrath @ Nov 2 2020, 03:57 PM)
Hi sifus,

I have a quick question. A friend of mine asked me if I were to do full detailing work on his SUV (VW Tiguan, CX5), how much would I charge?

- Car wash (Gold Class)
- Interior (Meguiars)
- Wheel shine (TW)
- Ceramic Wax Coat (TW)

I don't want to undercharge but also dowan to slaughter....need some feedback before I double bucket myself into this haha..

Thanks!
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I normally charge an upwards of RM70 for my signature wash which includes TW Ceramic Wet Wax + 3 in 1 Detailer, not including an interior detail which is based on quotation.

Do your costing, and then decide on the profit margin. And proceed to set a target audience. In my opinion, there is no such thing as "slaughter", charge however much you think is worth your time and effort. Detailers come in all sizes, so you need to decide what you are.


Hope this helps.

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post Nov 25 2020, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Nov 24 2020, 05:44 PM)
the raining season is here again  sad.gif  and while i love it, i absolutely hate what it does to my car. living in a high rise development means i do not possess the convenience of washing my car any time i want. parking my car under the basement with beads of rain water on it worries me because they will leave water spots that may be etched into the paintwork - it is coated but still.

as a temporary alleviation measure, i rinse the car (hopefully) to remove any loose dirt and then give it a gentle wipe down / blot it off until at least i can give the car a good wash over the weekend.

what is your temporary measure for preventing water spots on your car?
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Apply any sacrificial topper after each wash. Your coating will thank you. I'm doing it for all my client's during this season. Not 100% foolproof, but it will reduce the amount of water spots by ten-fold.

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post Nov 25 2020, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Nov 21 2020, 04:01 PM)
anyone knows of any coating friendly product that i can use to remove water stains like these?

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I'm an IGL installer so I use Delete and it works like a charm. They recently teamed up with Jennifer of Carsmotology on the Jen K.O Mix which combines Wash, Delete and Enhancer as an all-in-one solution. It's sold as a kit, but I got the dilution ratios from Jennifer if you want.

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