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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V11!

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Ivan Sac
post Mar 7 2016, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(hardcoreangel @ Mar 7 2016, 10:45 AM)
Thanks for the suggestion.

FSP hexa good enuf to carry on this rig?
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Similar doubt here. Let say i3 replaced with i7, is FSP Hexa good enough and usable for future upgrade or should get something better like Seasonic S12II 520W - RM 283.
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post Mar 7 2016, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(Ivan Sac @ Mar 7 2016, 10:54 AM)
Similar doubt here. Let say i3 replaced with i7, is FSP Hexa good enough and usable for future upgrade or should get something better like Seasonic S12II 520W - RM 283.
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In average locked i3 vs locked i7 during max load, i7 draws extra 30W from the wall so it is still feasible.

If budget allows, go for Seasonic M12II EVO 620W, RM 363 from ETech, if no then just stick with FSP Hexa+ for the time being.
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post Mar 7 2016, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 7 2016, 11:03 AM)
In average locked i3 vs locked i7 during max load, i7 draws extra 30W from the wall so it is still feasible.

If budget allows, go for Seasonic M12II EVO 620W, RM 363 from ETech, if no then just stick with FSP Hexa+ for the time being.
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post Mar 8 2016, 11:50 AM

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WTA whether this spec is fine or any suggestion for any hardwares with the same price to put in ?

i7 - 6700
Asus B150 MA
Kingston 2133 (4x2)
Asus Strix GTX960 2GB
WD Blue 1TB
Silver Stone Bronze 600W

and does GTX960 4GB which have extra vram helps in rendering softwares ?
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post Mar 8 2016, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(MagnificM @ Mar 8 2016, 11:50 AM)
WTA whether this spec is fine or any suggestion for any hardwares with the same price to put in ?

i7 - 6700
Asus B150 MA
Kingston 2133 (4x2)
Asus Strix GTX960 2GB
WD Blue 1TB
Silver Stone Bronze 600W

and does GTX960 4GB which have extra vram helps in rendering softwares ?
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For 1080p video, 2GB is fine, unless you are talking about serious 4K content, focus more on system RAM, get 16GB if possible, some rendering software will take all your memory during rendering process and leave you behind with a laggy PC which you cannot even use browser normally.
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post Mar 8 2016, 02:32 PM

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Budget = rm4000 (itx)

Purpose = multimedia gaming

Games softwares = dota 2, fallout 4, gta 5

Requirements = able to play the games at least at 60fps

Chassis = phanteks enthoo evolv itx



terence_nwb
post Mar 8 2016, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(albert611 @ Mar 8 2016, 02:32 PM)
Budget = rm4000 (itx)

Purpose = multimedia gaming

Games softwares = dota 2, fallout 4, gta 5

Requirements = able to play the games at least at 60fps

Chassis = phanteks enthoo evolv itx
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Monitor required?
albert611
post Mar 8 2016, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 8 2016, 03:21 PM)
Monitor required?
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No

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post Mar 8 2016, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(albert611 @ Mar 8 2016, 03:22 PM)
No
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Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 785
Gigabyte H170N-WiFi - RM 569
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 165
Zotac GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1450
Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD - RM 229
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX - RM 369

Total: RM 3981 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

Alternative build with R9 390 8GB but no SSD.

Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 785
Gigabyte H170N-WiFi - RM 569
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 165
MSI R9 390 8GB GDDR5 Gaming - RM 1550
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
Seasonic M12II EVO 620W - RM 409
Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX - RM 369

Total: RM 4072 (Techview price inclusive of GST)
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post Mar 8 2016, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 8 2016, 03:34 PM)
Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 785
Gigabyte H170N-WiFi - RM 569
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 165
Zotac GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1450
Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD - RM 229
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX - RM 369

Total: RM 3981 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

Alternative build with R9 390 8GB but no SSD.

Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 785
Gigabyte H170N-WiFi - RM 569
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 165
MSI R9 390 8GB GDDR5 Gaming - RM 1550
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
Seasonic M12II EVO 620W - RM 409
Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX - RM 369

Total: RM 4072 (Techview price inclusive of GST)
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For the 2nd one, if i replace hexa 550w with seasonic one is that to add the ssd , will that be workable?
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QUOTE(albert611 @ Mar 8 2016, 03:47 PM)
For the 2nd one, if i replace hexa 550w with seasonic one is that to add the ssd , will that be workable?
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Not recommended to do so as R9 390 is high in power consumption and Hexa series is a low-to-mid end grade PSU only, even though it will work on your system but not worth to risk it, if anything goes wrong, prepare to bangwall.gif

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post Mar 8 2016, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 8 2016, 03:56 PM)
Not recommended to do so as R9 390 is high in power consumption and Hexa series is a low-to-mid end grade PSU only, even though it will work on your system but not worth to risk it, if anything goes wrong, prepare to  bangwall.gif

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What is the differences of gtx 970 and r9 390. And is it worth the upgrade?
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post Mar 8 2016, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(albert611 @ Mar 8 2016, 04:02 PM)
What is the differences of gtx 970 and r9 390. And is it worth the upgrade?
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It is actually not an upgrade, they are performing neck to neck and are considered as same tier GPU.

GTX970 has much lower power consumption and this allows you to run it on a cheaper PSU, the drawback is its VRAM which is 4GB vs R9 390's 8GB, but for 1080p, 4GB is more than enough nowadays, only some games are using > 4GB VRAM if you turn all the graphics settings to max especially texture and environment quality, it also outperforms R9 390 in GameWorks enabled games.

While R9 390 is considered more "future proof" due to the extra 4GB VRAM but consumes more power and you need to spend more money to get a decent PSU to run it, if you compare the raw performance between them, R9 390 will have slight edge.


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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 8 2016, 04:14 PM)
It is actually not an upgrade, they are performing neck to neck and are considered as same tier GPU.

GTX970 has much lower power consumption and this allows you to run it on a cheaper PSU, the drawback is its VRAM which is 4GB vs R9 390's 8GB, but for 1080p, 4GB is more than enough nowadays, only some games are using > 4GB VRAM if you turn all the graphics settings to max especially texture and environment quality, it also outperforms R9 390 in GameWorks enabled games.

While R9 390 is considered more "future proof" due to the extra 4GB VRAM but consumes more power and you need to spend more money to get a decent PSU to run it, if you compare the raw performance between them, R9 390 will have slight edge.
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So.. what does extra vram do haha. And u said performance wise r9 390 will have slight edge, is it noticeable tho?
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QUOTE(albert611 @ Mar 8 2016, 04:34 PM)
So.. what does extra vram do haha. And u said performance wise r9 390 will have slight edge, is it noticeable tho?
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VRAM is like your system RAM, but it is for GPU to store framebuffer and necessary info to render/display on the monitor.

It is noticeable in some games, i.e. Far Cry Primal, R9 390 produces around 20% more frame rates than GTX970 on 1080p (but GTX970 is still managed to hit 60 FPS in average so that's not really a big deal if you are playing this game on 1080p 60Hz screen), this happens only if the game is unbiased to any camp and is well optimized for all GPU, like the recently released Gears of War: Ultimate Edition on Windows Store, it runs badly on AMD card, some reports saying it is due to Nvidia GameWorks (HBAO+) settings which is not disclosed or stated clearly in the games description, this is the time when GTX970 shines.

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post Mar 8 2016, 05:20 PM

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Hey guys need suggestion for gaming rig

The budget includes monitor as well

BUDGET: 6.5k

PURPOSE: Gaming - Needs to be able to play games at ultra @ 1080p for the next 2-3 years (if that is even possible)

Prefer OC. Plan to get at Idealtech for their after sales services and OC

Thank you!
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QUOTE(randomguitarguy @ Mar 8 2016, 05:20 PM)
Hey guys need suggestion for gaming rig

The budget includes monitor as well

BUDGET: 6.5k

PURPOSE: Gaming - Needs to be able to play games at ultra @ 1080p for the next 2-3 years (if that is even possible)

Prefer OC. Plan to get at Idealtech for their after sales services and OC

Thank you!
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What settings you can run is depend on the optimization from the games developers, there is no guarantee it will run well at ultra settings even you own the strongest GPU in the world if the game is badly coded.

Intel Core i7 6700K - RM 1530
Asus Z170 Pro Gaming - RM 779
GSKill TridentZ 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4 3200MHz RAM - RM 459
Asus R9 390 8GB GDDR5 Strix - RM 1749
Samsung 750 EVO 120GB SSD - RM 249
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
Seasonic M12II EVO 620W - RM 409
Cryorig H5 Ultimate - RM 229
NZXT S340 - RM 320
BenQ GW2470H - RM 599

Total: RM 6542 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)
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post Mar 8 2016, 11:08 PM

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guys, can recommend me a pc setup for office usage only.

will be needing monitor as well.

budget is 3k or lower

thank you!!

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post Mar 9 2016, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(GroundMan @ Mar 8 2016, 11:08 PM)
guys, can recommend me a pc setup for office usage only.

will be needing monitor as well.

budget is 3k or lower

thank you!!
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Office usage? MS Office only? Just light usage right?

Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 496
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 289
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 168
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
FSP Hexa+ 400W - RM 145
Armaggeddon Hectotron T3X - RM 129
BenQ GW2270 - RM 429

Total: RM 1871 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

You can include SSD if needed.

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Anyone bought from Etech before?? Want to ask your experience and whether if the shop is 'legit' or not. Thanks! Planning to spend RM9k so must be extra careful

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