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NyD-WiLL
post Mar 5 2016, 02:06 AM

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Hi, i build my PC 3 years ago and recently i plan to mini upgrade it. Below is my PC specs:

i3 3220
Kingston 8GB RAM DDR3
P8Z77-V LK Mother Board
GTX 650Ti
1TB WD Hard Disk
GS700 Corsair Power Supply
GM Storm Stout 2 Case
Samsung DVD Writer
Samsung 23' Monitor

I only play League Of Legends for the past 2 years. So, i think i will only purchase a SSD, add another 8 GB RAM and change my OS to 64 bit.

Question:
1. What SSD you guys recommend me?
2. I heard OS 64 bit can support more than 8 GB RAM unlike 32 bit. Is that right? Will my computer become faster after i change to OS 64 bit with 16 GB RAM?
3. DDR3 or DDR4 RAM for my PC? Will DDR4 overkill?

The main reason i doing these upgrades because i only play League Of Legends nowadays and my pc still can handle it well without much fps drop. The only thing that bother me is, sometimes when i playing LOL with Google Chrome on or with other programs on like music player or etc, i can clearly feeling my pc is heavier and the game is not as smooth as if i turn off all background programs.

Thanks.

This post has been edited by NyD-WiLL: Mar 5 2016, 02:10 AM
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post Mar 5 2016, 08:01 AM

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64bit is a must and its free..cant belive u are using 32bit all this while...ram usable below 4 gb there...no need upgrade ram
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post Mar 5 2016, 08:35 AM

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[Budget] RM3500

[Purpose] Gaming (AAA titles, just need smooth frame rate)

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor,Keyboard,mouse

[Monitor resolution] Not Needed

[Games & softwares that use frequently] latest games, dota 2

[Personal preferences] Currently undecided between EVGA or PALIT GTX960 for GPU. Kindly recommend others if there are better options

[Location] KL



Need help from you guys for the above rig. My old pc is dying on me soon. sweat.gif

Thanks in advance!! thumbup.gif
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post Mar 5 2016, 08:48 AM

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[Budget] RM3300

[Purpose] Gaming and programming (if game need high fps in high settings in the witcher 3 as an example)

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor,Keyboard,mouse

[Monitor resolution] 1920x1080 or 1920×1200

[Games & softwares that use frequently] dota 2, battlefield 4, final fantasy series, metal gear solid, the witcher series and lots of newest game

[Personal preferences] prefer smaller in size coz easy to carry to my university

[Location] Terengganu (can postage)

Need help build it..bdw i prefer a good cooling system
Minecrafter
post Mar 5 2016, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(bozehead @ Mar 5 2016, 08:35 AM)
[Budget]  RM3500

[Purpose] Gaming (AAA titles, just need smooth frame rate)

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor,Keyboard,mouse

[Monitor resolution] Not Needed

[Games & softwares that use frequently] latest games, dota 2

[Personal preferences] Currently undecided between EVGA or PALIT GTX960 for GPU. Kindly recommend others if there are better options

[Location] KL
Need help from you guys for the above rig. My old pc is dying on me soon.  sweat.gif

Thanks in advance!! thumbup.gif
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Intel Core i5 6500 RM857
MSI B150M Pro-DH RM375
Zotac GTX970 Reference 4GB GDDR5 RM1397
Corsair Value RAM 1x8GB DDR4 2133MHz RM191
WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM215
Seasonic M12II Evo 620W 80+ Bronze Fully Modular RM363
Bitfenix Nova RM149
Total:RM3547
Prices are from E-Tech.

What is the specs of your current rig? Might be able to salvage a part or two.

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bozehead
post Mar 5 2016, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 5 2016, 08:53 AM)
Intel Core i5 6500 RM857
MSI B150M Pro-DH RM375
Zotac GTX970 Reference 4GB GDDR5 RM1397
Corsair Value RAM 1x8GB DDR4 2133MHz RM191
WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM215
Seasonic M12II Evo 620W 80+ Bronze Fully Modular RM363
Bitfenix Nova RM149
Total:RM3547
Prices are from E-Tech.

What is the specs of your current rig? Might be able to salvage a part or two.
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My pc is already 8 years old, don't think it is salvageable.

Just a question, is the performance of gtx960 & gtx970 has a significant difference? And also any ways to fit in a SSD?


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post Mar 5 2016, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(bozehead @ Mar 5 2016, 09:10 AM)
My pc is already 8 years old, don't think it is salvageable.

Just a question, is the performance of gtx960 & gtx970 has a significant difference? And also any ways to fit in a SSD?
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Mhmm. nod.gif http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1595?vs=1596

Can cut down CPU to i5 6400 RM796 and PSU to FSP Hexa+ 550W RM189 and use the cash on Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB RM209.


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post Mar 5 2016, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(NyD-WiLL @ Mar 5 2016, 02:06 AM)
Hi, i build my PC 3 years ago and recently i plan to mini upgrade it. Below is my PC specs:

i3 3220
Kingston 8GB RAM DDR3
P8Z77-V LK Mother Board
GTX 650Ti
1TB WD Hard Disk
GS700 Corsair Power Supply
GM Storm Stout 2 Case
Samsung DVD Writer
Samsung 23' Monitor

I only play League Of Legends for the past 2 years. So, i think i will only purchase a SSD, add another 8 GB RAM and change my OS to 64 bit.

Question:
1. What SSD you guys recommend me?
2. I heard OS 64 bit can support more than 8 GB RAM unlike 32 bit. Is that right? Will my computer become faster after i change to OS 64 bit with 16 GB RAM?
3. DDR3 or DDR4 RAM for my PC? Will DDR4 overkill?

The main reason i doing these upgrades because i only play League Of Legends nowadays and my pc still can handle it well without much fps drop. The only thing that bother me is, sometimes when i playing LOL with Google Chrome on or with other programs on like music player or etc, i can clearly feeling my pc is heavier and the game is not as smooth as if i turn off all background programs.

Thanks.
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Adding SSD is enough, your RAM is already 8GB and just change your 32 bit OS to 64 bit OS and you can fully utilize the 8GB RAM.

16GB is quite overkill for normal people, unused RAM is wasted RAM, so just stick with 8GB for now, you will only notice the difference when your RAM usage is > 8GB.

RAM socket supported is depend on your mobo model, only X99 and the latest Skylake chipset (H110, B150, H170 & Z170) mobo can utilize DDR4, yours is Z77 chipset and it is using DDR3 so DDR4 isn't supported.

As for SSD, you didn't state your budget, so I will just go with Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD for now, around RM 210 in the market.
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post Mar 5 2016, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 5 2016, 11:34 AM)
Mhmm. nod.gif http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1595?vs=1596

Can cut down CPU to i5 6400 RM796 and PSU to FSP Hexa+ 550W RM189 and use the cash on Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB RM209.
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Thanks a lot for the pointers!
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post Mar 5 2016, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(ASSKICKERr @ Mar 5 2016, 08:48 AM)
[Budget] RM3300

[Purpose] Gaming and programming (if game need high fps in high settings in the witcher 3 as an example)

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor,Keyboard,mouse

[Monitor resolution] 1920x1080 or 1920×1200

[Games & softwares that use frequently] dota 2, battlefield 4, final fantasy series, metal gear solid, the witcher series and lots of newest game

[Personal preferences] prefer smaller in size coz easy to carry to my university

[Location] Terengganu (can postage)

Need help build it..bdw i prefer a good cooling system
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ITX rig always has cooling issue due to its compact size, not saying it will overheat easily, just the temperature is slightly higher than non-ITX build.

Witcher 3 in high settings with high FPS (I assume 60?) requires at least GTX970/R9 390, your budget cannot fit either of them and GTX960/R9 380 will yield around 40 FPS (average) in high settings, either you top up your budget or live with it.

Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 769
MSI B150I Gaming Pro - RM 519
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 168
Zotac GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1397
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
CM Elite 130 - RM 178

Total: RM 3434 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

If cannot accept over bugdet, downgrade to GTX960/R9 380/R9 380X (the extra fund can use to get a SSD) or completely switch to mATX build (bigger in size).
ASSKICKERr
post Mar 5 2016, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 5 2016, 03:12 PM)
ITX rig always has cooling issue due to its compact size, not saying it will overheat easily, just the temperature is slightly higher than non-ITX build.

Witcher 3 in high settings with high FPS (I assume 60?) requires at least GTX970/R9 390, your budget cannot fit either of them and GTX960/R9 380 will yield around 40 FPS (average) in high settings, either you top up your budget or live with it.

Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 769
MSI B150I Gaming Pro - RM 519
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 168
Zotac GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1397
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
CM Elite 130 - RM 178

Total: RM 3434 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

If cannot accept over bugdet, downgrade to GTX960/R9 380/R9 380X (the extra fund can use to get a SSD) or completely switch to mATX build (bigger in size).
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So compact rig temperature higher than the big one..yeah fps around 60..so i need to topup a couple hundred..thanks a lot bro..

NyD-WiLL
post Mar 5 2016, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(tlts @ Mar 5 2016, 08:01 AM)
64bit is a must and its free..cant belive u are using 32bit all this while...ram usable below 4 gb there...no need upgrade ram
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Ya. I feel so silly. Haha.


QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 5 2016, 03:00 PM)
Adding SSD is enough, your RAM is already 8GB and just change your 32 bit OS to 64 bit OS and you can fully utilize the 8GB RAM.

16GB is quite overkill for normal people, unused RAM is wasted RAM, so just stick with 8GB for now, you will only notice the difference when your RAM usage is > 8GB.

RAM socket supported is depend on your mobo model, only X99 and the latest Skylake chipset (H110, B150, H170 & Z170) mobo can utilize DDR4, yours is Z77 chipset and it is using DDR3 so DDR4 isn't supported.

As for SSD, you didn't state your budget, so I will just go with Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD for now, around RM 210 in the market.
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Since i don't need to upgrade RAM now so i have more budget for SSD. May i know what is the SSD difference besides price?
Hopefully you can list out some SSD which you think is good with prices and differences regardless of my budget so i can choose one from there. 120GB is enough for me.
Is it possible i add one new SSD and use my old HD for my animes, movies and music storage? Just check my HD and i find it still have 600GB free.

Leon be here now
post Mar 5 2016, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(ASSKICKERr @ Mar 5 2016, 08:48 AM)
[Personal preferences] prefer smaller in size coz easy to carry to my university

Need help build it..bdw i prefer a good cooling system
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 5 2016, 03:12 PM)
ITX rig always has cooling issue due to its compact size, not saying it will overheat easily, just the temperature is slightly higher than non-ITX build.

Witcher 3 in high settings with high FPS (I assume 60?) requires at least GTX970/R9 390, your budget cannot fit either of them and GTX960/R9 380 will yield around 40 FPS (average) in high settings, either you top up your budget or live with it.

Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 769
MSI B150I Gaming Pro - RM 519
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 168
Zotac GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1397
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
CM Elite 130 - RM 178

Total: RM 3434 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

If cannot accept over bugdet, downgrade to GTX960/R9 380/R9 380X (the extra fund can use to get a SSD) or completely switch to mATX build (bigger in size).
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QUOTE(ASSKICKERr @ Mar 5 2016, 03:17 PM)
So compact rig temperature higher than the big one..yeah fps around 60..so i need to topup a couple hundred..thanks a lot bro..
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May I suggest you get a normal case RM129 (from same seller ETech), comes in black or white version.
Includes 2x big 120mm fan too, either 1 or 2 of them also have led too.
http://www.lelong.com.my/armaggeddon-hecto...7-07-Sale-P.htm

Now you can save more money on a normal basic H110m mobo from RM289

Total savings
-RM49 Case
-RM230 mobo

RM279 savings, this is quite a premium you are paying for a small case, its not like you are carrying it around everyday or week?
with the savings you can even put an SSD on your rig too highly recommended

ETech will ship to you only RM20, they will even assemble and install win10 pro for free. (i recently got 2x pc from them)

This post has been edited by Leon be here now: Mar 5 2016, 03:48 PM
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post Mar 5 2016, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(Leon be here now @ Mar 5 2016, 03:36 PM)
May I suggest you get a normal case RM129 (from same seller ETech), comes in black or white version.
Includes 2x big 120mm fan too, either 1 or 2 of them also have led too.
http://www.lelong.com.my/armaggeddon-hecto...7-07-Sale-P.htm

Now you can save more money on a normal basic H81 mobo Asrock from RM195 (from same seller ETech 2 weeks ago.)

Total savings
-RM49 Case
-RM324 mobo

RM373 savings, this is quite a premium you are paying for a small case, its not like you are carrying it around everyday or week?
with the savings you can even put an SSD on your rig too highly recommended

ETech will ship to you only RM20, they will even assemble and install win10 pro for free. (i recently got 2x pc from them)
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H81 mobo on a Skylake processor?
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post Mar 5 2016, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(NyD-WiLL @ Mar 5 2016, 03:27 PM)
Ya. I feel so silly. Haha.
Since i don't need to upgrade RAM now so i have more budget for SSD. May i know what is the SSD difference besides price?
Hopefully you can list out some SSD which you think is good with prices and differences regardless of my budget so i can choose one from there. 120GB is enough for me.
Is it possible i add one new SSD and use my old HD for my animes, movies and music storage? Just check my HD and i find it still have 600GB free.
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Read/write speed, IOPS, warranty, quality control etc.

You can choose from Samsung 850 EVO, Samsung 750 EVO, Samsung 650 Basic, Kingston HyperX Fury, Transcend 370 etc.

Samsung 850 EVO is the most expensive among them, the difference between them is really hard to notice in real life apart from those benchmarking statistics, so either one of them is fine.

Yes you can use SSD and HDD alongside.
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post Mar 5 2016, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(st4Lk3rz @ Mar 5 2016, 03:38 PM)
H81 mobo on a Skylake processor?
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Oh shitt i forgot he using skylake,
in that case he needs to add RM90 for a skylake mobo.
Ive updated the above post.

This post has been edited by Leon be here now: Mar 5 2016, 03:49 PM
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post Mar 5 2016, 04:59 PM

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my cpu is 50c+ on idle, last time i buy cooler master hyper 212x but my casing didn't fit.

im using this casing https://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/products...is/neos-window/

Dimensions (WxHxD) 185 x 429 x 470

can someone help choose cpu cooler that can fit?
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post Mar 5 2016, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(ssxcool @ Mar 5 2016, 04:59 PM)
need help here

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my cpu is 50c+ on idle, last time i buy cooler master hyper 212x but my casing didn't fit.

im using this casing https://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/products...is/neos-window/

Dimensions (WxHxD)  185 x 429 x 470

can someone help choose cpu cooler that can fit?
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post Mar 5 2016, 06:05 PM

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hi, need help for rig recommendation.

budget - 2.5k
usage - 3d max, autocad, gaming( usually indie game)
additional hardware: monitor

Thank you.
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post Mar 5 2016, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(ensuna @ Mar 5 2016, 06:05 PM)
hi, need help for rig recommendation.

budget - 2.5k
usage - 3d max, autocad, gaming( usually indie game)
additional hardware: monitor

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The additional hardware means you already have it or need to include it in the budget?

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