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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V11!

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post Mar 20 2016, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(lanXX @ Mar 20 2016, 08:33 PM)
Hello guys, pls check out my RM11K gaming pc spec. Feel free to recommend other better parts too. All prices (inclusive GST) are from E Tech PC

INTEL E3-1230 V5 RM1130

MSI H170A GAMING PRO RM639

CORSAIR VENGEANCE LPX 8GB 2666MHZ KIT OF 2 RM260

ZOTAC GTX980TI AMP! EXTREME 6GB GDDR5 RM3550

SAMSUNG 850 EVO 120GB SSD RM239

WD 1TB BLUE RM215

SUPERFLOWER 650WATT 80PLUS SILVER FULL MODULAR RM370

NZXT NOCTIS 450 RM500

NZXT KRAKEN X41 RM469

ACER XB271HU RM3250

CORSAIR K65 RGB RM450
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You cannot use Skylake Xeon CPU on H170 chipset mobo, you need C232 WS mobo for that.

As for RAM, no point getting > 2133MHz RAM when you aren't using Z170 mobo, speed will be limited to 2133MHz even if you get 2666MHz, can save some money here.

I don't know where you get the price from because your price is quite different from what I get from ETech's lelong account sweat.gif

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1284
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 486
Corsair 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 324
Gigabyte GTX980Ti 6GB GDDR5 Xtreme Gaming - RM 3300
Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD - RM 209
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
CM V650 - RM 498
NZXT Noctis 450 - RM 605
Acer Predator XB271HU-IPS - RM 3299
Corsair Strafe RGB - RM 582

Total: RM 10532 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

CPU cooler is optional since it is not an overclockable rig, you can spend money on it if you want, but don't spend RM 469 on Kraken X41, it is just a 1 x 120mm AIO liquid cooler which is not worth, top up a bit for Corsair Hydro H100i for 2 x 120mm instead.
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post Mar 20 2016, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(lanXX @ Mar 20 2016, 10:11 PM)
Wow, why he never mentioned any of this before? Im glad u are here  thumbsup.gif  As for the price, i pm them personally. So, which mobo would u recommend for my preferred spec? And any specific reason for why u pick gigabyte 980 ti over zotac`s? Afaik, zotac`s 980 ti is the fastest single gpu.
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If you want to keep using the Xeon, there are only few options you can make, Gigabyte X150-Plus, ASRock E3V5 etc.

Gigabyte X150-Plus is the cheapest C232 chipset you can get from ETech now, but you are warned Xeon E3 doesn't have iGPU which means if your GPU is faulty, you need a replacement GPU for display output, last time many people went for Xeon during Haswell era because the price of getting a Xeon (4C8T) CPU + mobo combo is cheaper than getting an i7 since it can be used on lower end chipset mobo, but since the situation has changed in Skylake, Xeon build isn't worth to get anymore, i7 + B150/H170 is more budget friendly now.

There are many GTX980Ti out there, the reason why I picked Gigabyte is because of its price and the clock speed, why people say Zotac Extreme is the fastest GTX980Ti out there? It is because of the factory overclocked speed is the highest among all the GTX980Ti out there, Gigabyte Xtreme's factory clocked speed is 1342MHz vs Zotac's 1355MHz, it is just 13MHz difference but you have to pay nearly RM 300 more for it (bad good price/performance ratio), you can manually overclock it to match what other cards are offering by using MSI Afterburner software, Zotac products come with 5 years of warranty though.


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post Mar 21 2016, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(lanXX @ Mar 20 2016, 11:06 PM)
So, core i7 is the answer then. thanks for the input mate, u are really helpful  notworthy.gif  but still im sticking to zotac because of its look lel
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Understood, different people have different personal preferences nod.gif

QUOTE(aliex87 @ Mar 20 2016, 11:25 PM)
Thank you very much! I dont have a problem with the extra RM76, I will go with your recommendation, and add on 1 ssd, any recommendation for that? im open for anything below rm500  - thank you again!  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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You can consider Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Kingston HyperX Fury 240GB, Corsair Force LE 240GB etc.

Performance difference is not huge between them, any SSD in the market is fast enough for normal consumers to feel the difference if they are coming from HDD, so either one is fine, Kingston and Corsair one are much cheaper (they are below RM 400, perfect for money saving).
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QUOTE(hardcoreangel @ Mar 21 2016, 12:28 PM)
terence_nwb Just wondering, CPU cooler is mandatory or not ?

And what is the best choice for 23" monitor ? budjet rm500-600 thanks
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If you own a K series CPU and are going to overclock it, then yes it is recommended to get aftermarket CPU cooler.

For non-overclockable rig, stock cooler runs just fine, you still can get a decent 3rd party CPU cooler to further improve the heat dissipation rate and have slightly reduced noise level.

RM 600 can get you a BenQ GW2470 or top up a bit for AOC i2369VM IPS or Dell S2316H IPS.
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post Mar 21 2016, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(semot @ Mar 21 2016, 01:48 PM)
need a cooler to replace intel stock heatsink, socket 1155
currently using i5 2500 non k max load 95c
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Please share your casing model, I need to know the max clearance/CPU height support of your casing.
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post Mar 21 2016, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(semot @ Mar 21 2016, 02:44 PM)
Thermaltake Versa H21
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CM TX3 EVO or Cryorig H7, the former is cheaper.
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post Mar 21 2016, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(kahtsin @ Mar 21 2016, 07:01 PM)
Hi guys, wanna ask.

Can a CM Seidon 120v Plus be used with i7 6700k?

Edit : not going to oc
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post Mar 21 2016, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(Leon be here now @ Mar 21 2016, 09:38 PM)
If i have a mobo
ASROCK H81M
Can i combine 2 different types of ram voltage?
eg
1x 4gb 1.35V
1x 4gb/8GB 1.5V
different brand, different cl10 and cl11
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Same mobo may tolerate it, some will have to undervolt to work, some won't work at all.

The best would be buying the exact same model of RAM.
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post Mar 22 2016, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(PropertyInvestor @ Mar 22 2016, 02:53 AM)
Hi anyone can recommend me a super pc that Is use for graphics and video editing with heavy multi tasking. My current pc is 32gb ram and usually use up 60% of it.
I am looking to buy a new set of pc

Requirements
Able to render 4k graphics
Super fast processor
32gb ram
Good 4k monitor

Budget 5k-6k able to stretch to 7k if required.
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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1284
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 486
Corsair 32GB (8GB x 4) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 648
Asus GTX960 4GB GDDR5 Turbo - RM 927
Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD - RM 209
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
Seasonic S12II 620W - RM 309
Tecware Alpha Black - RM 219
Dell P2415Q UHD - RM 1859

Total: RM 6156 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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post Mar 22 2016, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(johnny12262711 @ Mar 22 2016, 02:47 PM)
dear all,

appreciate if you could assist me in choosing the right parts for my new pc.

Budget: RM3000-3500

Purpose: Movie, Torrent, Gaming

Hardware that will be re-use: 24'Monitor, 2 x 1TB HDD, 1 x 500GB HDD, keyboard and mouse

Monitor Resolution: BENQ EW2440L  1920 x 1080‎

Games & Software that use frequently: CS:GO, DOTA2, AAA tittle game torrent

Personal Preference: would like the pc to be able to run AAA tittle game better than ps4 graphic.

thank you very much for your help
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 837
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 403
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 162
Sapphire R9 390 8GB GDDR5 Nitro - RM 1549
Seasonic S12II 620W - RM 303
Tecware Alpha Black - RM 219

Total: RM 3473 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

If you want SSD to be included, let me know I will adjust the build accordingly.
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post Mar 22 2016, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(AmeiN @ Mar 22 2016, 05:32 PM)
Many thanks to terence_nwb for suggestion in V10 thread.

completed change my rig to ITX form-factor with components below

New:
Intel i3-4160
Asrock B5M-ITX
2x4gb RAM KVN16N11S8/4

Secondhand:
Fractal design node 304

Others reuse  biggrin.gif
Asus GTS450 sad.gif
Silverstone ST50F-ESB
Liteon SSD 120gb
Seagate 2TB
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BUT........ I think need to upgrade PSU aswell because with current PSU, its very hard to do cable management with that small size casing  doh.gif  sweat.gif

change to full modular PSU might solve this?

Can recommend cheapest possible within 400 budget?  smile.gif
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Congrats on your new build, RM 400 can get Seasonic M12II EVO 520W or 620W (more upgrade room).

It is PITA to do cable management with non-modular PSU in ITX build tongue.gif
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post Mar 22 2016, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(johnny12262711 @ Mar 22 2016, 06:21 PM)
thx bro for the heads up, appreciate it.  rclxms.gif
just wonder does this motherboard supports wifi since ill be using wifi instead of cable.

forget to mention earlier, i have a 120gb SSD that will be install with the system too.

thx  biggrin.gif
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Just get a WiFi adapter to connect to WiFi.

TP-LINK TL-WN881ND, around RM 60.
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post Mar 22 2016, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(PropertyInvestor @ Mar 22 2016, 07:20 PM)
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Hi Terrance thank you for yourr recommendation

Is the processor enough? Should I go for xeon? Also the ram is high performance?

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I tried to use Xeon and high speed RAM but your budget is holding back you from getting them sweat.gif
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QUOTE(AlphaOmega001 @ Mar 22 2016, 08:11 PM)
Hello

[Budget] Around RM5-6K

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none

[Personal preferences] GTX 980

[Location] Selangor

possible to build a rig with gtx 980 with this budget ?
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TBH GTX980 isn't worth to get anymore with its current market price, better top up a bit for GTX980Ti or swap to the stronger R9 390X/Fury.

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1284
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 486
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 162
Palit GTX980 4GB GDDR5 Jetstream - RM 2389
Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD - RM 209
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
Seasonic M12II EVO 620W - RM 363
Tecware Alpha Black - RM 219
BenQ GW2470H - RM 589
Logitech MK200 Wired Combo - RM 63

Total: RM 5979 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Optional upgrade/build:
1. Sapphire R9 390X 8GB GDDR5 Tri-X OC - RM 1945
2. Palit GTX980Ti 6GB GDDR5 Super Jetstream - RM 3109 (Require top up)
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QUOTE(PropertyInvestor @ Mar 22 2016, 08:29 PM)
Terrence Pls share your best rig..  Budget is 10k now I am also looking at 980ti but not sure if it'll help as I am not into gaming but i want the best card to support 4k down the road in 3 years

Most important is when i open say photoshop, dreamweaver, visual studio, evernote, multiple excels and words.. many chrome tabs.. it wont lag.. no lag at all is most important.

I run ocassionally four windows with 10-20 chrome tabs open.

Please suggest.
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Not all software will use GPU as hardware accelerator FYI, some of them use GPU VRAM to store image/video data while some of them don't use at all during rendering.

The difference between 5820K and 5930K is just the max PCI-E lanes supported increased to 40 in 5930K which is required for 3/4-way SLI/CF setup (or when you need more PCI-E x16/x8 slots), this is not useful in your case, you can also overclock the 5820K to match what 5930K is offering manually, they both are hexa core CPU.

Intel Core i7 5820K - RM 1680
MSI X99A Raider - RM 940
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (8GB x 4) DDR4 3000MHz RAM - RM 1260
Zotac GTX980Ti 6GB GDDR5 AMP! - RM 2999
Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD - RM 229
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
CM V750 - RM 559
Corsair Hydro H100i V2 - RM 508
Tecware Alpha White - RM 199
Dell P2415Q UHD - RM 1930

Total: RM 10529 (Techview price inclusive of GST)
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post Mar 23 2016, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(mamasos @ Mar 23 2016, 07:40 AM)
can noctua nh-d15 fit in to corsair 400r? anyone try before?
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According to spec sheet, 400R can support CPU cooler height up to 175mm while Noctua NH-D15 max height with fans installed is just 165mm, so theoretically they are compatible with each other.
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QUOTE(Fiqoque @ Mar 23 2016, 10:31 AM)
I want to upgrade my rig. But im not sure other amd processor that can fit into my current MB (GIGABYTE 970a-DS3P).

My rig details:
Processor - AMD FX-6300
GPU - GeForce GTX650 1gb DDR5
RAM - 8gb 1600mhz
PSU - 450watts

And what could i do more to improve my game graphic to the max for DOTA2? Now i can only make it into 50% of full graphics only. And when i do to max, my fps drops until <50%

Thanks for your replies. Cheers! ✌🏻️
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If you play Dota 2 only then no need to upgrade the processor, invest in GPU instead.

Get a GTX750Ti (around RM 500+) then you can get max settings 1080p60 easily nod.gif
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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Mar 23 2016, 10:35 AM)
just would like to give a token of gratitude to terence_nwb, st4Lk3rz and etech team

Thanks terence and st4Lk3rz for your suggestion and advice

and thank etech team for your professionalism for handling some hiccup when i came to collect the rig thumbup.gif, very satisfied with your service

received my rig yesterday with the following spec 
I7 6700
Gigabyte b150m-d3h (d4)
Corsair 16gb (8gb x 2) d4 2133mhz value ram
Sapphire r9 390 8gb nitro
Fury 120gb ssd
1tb wd blue
Tp-link tl-wn881nd (2.4ghz)
Seasonic s12ii 620w
Tecware alpha white
k120 keyboard

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No problem, enjoy your lovely rig thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(Fiqoque @ Mar 23 2016, 10:54 AM)
But what if i wanted to max graphics in Farcry, CODas well. Is it just need to upgrade my gpu only? I dont know much in IT hardwares. Even i dont know why some are old processors but if got high cores its much expensives than the latest one. -.-
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Running max graphics setting in those games listed requires high end GPU and a capable CPU, this will cost you a lot, so prepare your wallet for it sweat.gif

So what's your budget for the upgrade?
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QUOTE(Fiqoque @ Mar 23 2016, 11:47 AM)
Im already prepared for the cost. But the problem is, whats the best CPU that can fit my MOBo? Because i just recently changed my mobo since my CPU still work fine.
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FYI AM3+ socket is dead, the highest end CPU your mobo can support is FX8370, which I don't recommend you to upgrade from your current FX6300, better wait for new Zen FX CPU which is going to be released later this year.

New GPU from Nvidia and AMD is also coming soon, if you can wait, I suggest you to wait, if not later when you find out you are actually paying the same price as the upcoming products but with weaker performance, you gonna bangwall.gif





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