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post Jun 19 2007, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(hansapkuay @ Jun 19 2007, 10:20 AM)
we should start a new club bro...
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Want bass like car subwoofer...for sure S4.1 is not for that... sweat.gif
Is for more on gaming..
Give one more chance for Edifier and try out the S2.1MKII...bass powerful until you will feel your shirt shaking...
10"inch with passive radiator.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 19 2007, 05:11 PM

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Wanna know, S2.1MKII how much? Hard to find edifier speakers here in Miri mostly sells the M or e Series or R501 or C2 nv a S series or not yet tongue.gif
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QUOTE(hosty @ Jun 19 2007, 05:11 PM)
Wanna know, S2.1MKII how much? Hard to find edifier speakers here in Miri mostly sells the M or e Series or R501 or C2 nv a S series or not yet tongue.gif
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S2.1MKII haven't release yet la bro...
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post Jun 19 2007, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(naruto_kun @ Jun 19 2007, 05:35 PM)
S2.1MKII haven't release yet la bro...
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Oh woops tongue.gif it sounded like it was alrdy haha.Thx for telling smile.gif Any idea when is it goin to be out?
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QUOTE(hosty @ Jun 19 2007, 11:55 PM)
Oh woops tongue.gif it sounded like it was alrdy haha.Thx for telling  smile.gif Any idea when is it goin to be out?
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S2.1MKII not yet out, but it's smallest brother S2.1M already out. S2.1M - 6.5" subwoofer, S2.1 - 8" subwoofer, S2.1MKII - 10" subwoofer. although S2.1M just 6.5" subwoofer, but the bass already powerful enough. when turn the bass knob more than half abt 2 o'clock already can feel the deep punchy bass effect thumbup.gif

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post Jun 20 2007, 06:40 AM

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QUOTE(DotA 5.84C -AR @ Jun 20 2007, 01:10 AM)
S2.1MKII not yet out, but it's smallest brother S2.1M already out. S2.1M - 6.5" subwoofer, S2.1 - 8" subwoofer, S2.1MKII - 10" subwoofer. although S2.1M just 6.5" subwoofer, but the bass already powerful enough. when turn the bass knob more than half abt 2 o'clock already can feel the deep punchy bass effect  thumbup.gif
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Icicic,thx for the info but I have a very hard time finding any shops here selling S series as i mention b4 sad cry.gif
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post Jun 20 2007, 10:15 AM

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i am a user of s2.1d....enjoying it very much...
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post Jun 20 2007, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(xterminator @ Jun 19 2007, 01:43 PM)
Want bass like car subwoofer...for sure S4.1 is not for that... sweat.gif
Is for more on gaming..
Give one more chance for Edifier and try out the S2.1MKII...bass powerful until you will feel your shirt shaking...
10"inch with passive radiator.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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u serious bro?
can i get a chest hurt?sounds gud bro...
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post Jun 20 2007, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(hansapkuay @ Jun 18 2007, 06:06 PM)
hi,noob here.
firstly,i apologise if i offend yall edifier fan.but....
around 3 years ago,i bought s4.1,n unfortunately i'm very dissapointed n the speaker been in the storeroom ever since.

i listen to hip hop/rnb,n hoping for clarity n thumpin bass that makes ur chest hurt(jus like car woofer...like when u stay in abeng discotheque...)
as i jus realize this forum,i got the urge to rejuvenate my dusty s4.1...
my first plan is to get phillip 805.
can someone guide me on this speaker mod or somethin?preamp?change cable?
i hope to unleash the beast within....
sorry if i'm too noob for yall,yall otai,i'm jus a padawan... heading to the darkside...
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Here are your guides:

1. Go to the car speaker shop and buy a powerful 6.5" woofer and change it with the S4.1 subwoofer. Watt doesn't matter, it just the maximum rating anyway. Anything higher the the S4.1 subwoofer 60W is ok.

2. Change the 35V 4700uF capacitors to 10000uF minimum 35V. I think capacitor's brand doesn't matter much if u just want more bass. (Of course branded is better)

3. Add some sound absorpting cotton or sponge in the subwoofer.

4. Getting a Phillip PSC805 also a good idea, the soundcard bass is strong.


Personally, I don't prefer bass. I'm using PSC805 with my modded S4.1 currently. I moded my S4.1 to get clearer and harder bass and improve the clarity of the mid. Now the LFE of my S4.1 controller need to turn to minimum and lower the bass frequency in equalizer of foobar to get the bass that i prefered while enjoying music.

I think Edifier S4.1 is built with clarity in mind, it's the clarity the stand out among it's price range.


Have a nice try to unleash the beast of your S4.1 subwoofer.


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post Jun 20 2007, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(thh1212 @ Jun 20 2007, 11:34 AM)
Here are your guides:

1. Go to the car speaker shop and buy a powerful 6.5" woofer and change it with the S4.1 subwoofer. Watt doesn't matter, it just the maximum rating anyway. Anything higher the the S4.1 subwoofer 60W is ok.

2. Change the 35V 4700uF capacitors to 10000uF minimum 35V. I think capacitor's brand doesn't matter much if u just want more bass. (Of course branded is better)

3. Add some sound absorpting cotton or sponge in the subwoofer.

4. Getting a Phillip PSC805 also a good idea, the soundcard bass is strong.
Personally, I don't prefer bass. I'm using PSC805 with my modded S4.1 currently. I moded my S4.1 to get clearer and harder bass and improve the clarity of the mid. Now the LFE of my S4.1 controller need to turn to minimum and lower the bass frequency in equalizer of foobar to get the bass that i prefered while enjoying music. 

I think Edifier S4.1 is built with clarity in mind, it's the clarity the stand out among it's price range.
Have a nice try to unleash the beast of your S4.1 subwoofer.
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well since ur already modded for bass section..why u dont mod satellite section?? i changed 1 uf (original) to 2.2uf solen caps, better wire (internal n from woofer to satelite). i also changed to a better caps at circuit (signal caps...not all). what i can say i sound much better than stock (cant tell how much it different since i do stage by stage). btw..what brand do u use for modded s4.1 (woofer)??
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QUOTE(hansapkuay @ Jun 20 2007, 11:16 AM)
u serious bro?
can i get a chest hurt?sounds gud bro...
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Tai ko...I'm a basshead too..but I love like Adams?Digital and tomahawk demo car...I feel like flying when they blast....the speaker can say super duper..wor...out topic liao...

So if you want bass choose S2.1mkII,
If me, that still not enough..my speaker is 10"..got two la...still not enough.. tongue.gif


QUOTE(thh1212 @ Jun 20 2007, 11:34 AM)
Here are your guides:

1. Go to the car speaker shop and buy a powerful 6.5" woofer and change it with the S4.1 subwoofer. Watt doesn't matter, it just the maximum rating anyway. Anything higher the the S4.1 subwoofer 60W is ok.

2. Change the 35V 4700uF capacitors to 10000uF minimum 35V. I think capacitor's brand doesn't matter much if u just want more bass. (Of course branded is better)

3. Add some sound absorpting cotton or sponge in the subwoofer.

4. Getting a Phillip PSC805 also a good idea, the soundcard bass is strong.
Personally, I don't prefer bass. I'm using PSC805 with my modded S4.1 currently. I moded my S4.1 to get clearer and harder bass and improve the clarity of the mid. Now the LFE of my S4.1 controller need to turn to minimum and lower the bass frequency in equalizer of foobar to get the bass that i prefered while enjoying music. 

I think Edifier S4.1 is built with clarity in mind, it's the clarity the stand out among it's price range.
Have a nice try to unleash the beast of your S4.1 subwoofer.
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No need change...6.5 inch sub bass wont powerful than the 10 inch ma...
Buy S2.1MkII... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 20 2007, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(hosty @ Jun 20 2007, 06:40 AM)
Icicic,thx for the info but I have a very hard time finding any shops here selling S series as i mention b4  sad  cry.gif
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then may be you can have a look on Altec Lancing MX5021. IMHO MX5021 sq at least better than GMX 2.1 and Z2300.

This post has been edited by DotA 5.84C -AR: Jun 20 2007, 03:06 PM
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rioven:

The satelite i already changed the internal wire and the supplied wire, the original internal wire so thin, thiner than the supplied wire connecting satelites and the sub.

For the satelite, i don't know about the caps rating for the tweeter. It written 105K 250V. So I just need to change it to 2.2uF 250V solen caps, right?

I also changed all the caps in the circuits to branded one. The big caps changed to RIFA 6800uF 63V parallel soldered with 0.1uF caps. All the ceramic caps to the plastic type.

The op amp change to OPA2107 for front and bass. OPA2227 for rear.

The subwoofer i changed to Atomic Power Labs, USA 90W cost RM104. That's the best i can get in my area.

I can't find any 3" woofer anywhere to replace the satelite woofer. So, I'll replace the front satelite soon.

I changed all at once, the improvement is significant.


Since hansapkuay is requesting for more bass only, so i think he no need to mod all the part.




xterminator:

If have money to spent, i don't see any problem buying a new speaker. But the improvement that u get from moding, is something u can't buy directly.

Even the new S2.1mkII still have many things that can mod to make it better.
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post Jun 20 2007, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(thh1212 @ Jun 20 2007, 03:25 PM)
rioven:

The satelite i already changed the internal wire and the supplied wire, the original internal wire so thin, thiner than the supplied wire connecting satelites and the sub.

For the satelite, i don't know about the caps rating for the tweeter. It written 105K 250V. So I just need to change it to 2.2uF 250V solen caps, right?

I also changed all the caps in the circuits to branded one. The big caps changed to RIFA 6800uF 63V parallel soldered with 0.1uF caps. All the ceramic caps to the plastic type.

The op amp change to OPA2107 for front and bass. OPA2227 for rear.

The subwoofer i changed to Atomic Power Labs, USA 90W cost RM104. That's the best i can get in my area.

I can't find any 3" woofer anywhere to replace the satelite woofer. So, I'll replace the front satelite soon.

I changed all at once, the improvement is significant.
Since hansapkuay is requesting for more bass only, so i think he no need to mod all the part.
xterminator:

If have money to spent, i don't see any problem buying a new speaker. But the improvement that u get from moding, is something u can't buy directly.

Even the new S2.1mkII still have many things that can mod to make it better.
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Ic...he want bass more powerful than S4.1....if you change the sub also no use...
know what i mean? If you change some cable or sound card or internal circuits wont make a huge different for powerful bass...
Change most of that things is to improve ur sound quality...
Modding is better...but if you buy something better, maybe modding is not necessary...
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post Jun 20 2007, 03:55 PM

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Edifier, can i knw what is the price for s2000 rite now?

can i find it in Penang 3-5 August PC fair? now wondering want to get s5.1m or s2000 now. Any suggestion? heheh
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post Jun 20 2007, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(thh1212 @ Jun 20 2007, 03:25 PM)
rioven:

The satelite i already changed the internal wire and the supplied wire, the original internal wire so thin, thiner than the supplied wire connecting satelites and the sub.

For the satelite, i don't know about the caps rating for the tweeter. It written 105K 250V. So I just need to change it to 2.2uF 250V solen caps, right?

I also changed all the caps in the circuits to branded one. The big caps changed to RIFA 6800uF 63V parallel soldered with 0.1uF caps. All the ceramic caps to the plastic type.

The op amp change to OPA2107 for front and bass. OPA2227 for rear.

The subwoofer i changed to Atomic Power Labs, USA 90W cost RM104. That's the best i can get in my area.

I can't find any 3" woofer anywhere to replace the satelite woofer. So, I'll replace the front satelite soon.

I changed all at once, the improvement is significant.
Since hansapkuay is requesting for more bass only, so i think he no need to mod all the part.
xterminator:

If have money to spent, i don't see any problem buying a new speaker. But the improvement that u get from moding, is something u can't buy directly.

Even the new S2.1mkII still have many things that can mod to make it better.
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the tweeter using 1uf (105k 250V)..the reason i'm using 2.2uf solen coz i already have it. U may try other value (eg 1.5uf). u can hear the different immediately (say 5-10% improvement). solen caps add more clarity..more forward n more harsh (hehe..depend to ur source). Rifa caps? where u get it? rsmalaysia? farnell?

p/s: ur already modded beyond my imagination thumbup.gif
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post Jun 20 2007, 04:59 PM

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xterminator:

I like the S4.1 but i must say the original subwoofer is suck. THe subwoofer is soft and less elastic. Changing the subwoofer can give u more bass but of course cannot compare to a 10" subwoofer.

Want to improve sound quality or improve bass depend on what modding u perform on the current speaker u owned. Unless u want to spent more for a new speaker.

hansapkuay mention b4, he is looking for guide to mod his S4.1, so i give him one.

For modder, their hand is always gatal, anything better, they will mod it a step closer to perfect in their own way to get satifaction.




rioven:

thanks. i'll change the caps soon.

So far every review i read r saying the tweeter sounded very nice and fine, still have improvement for the tweeter if connected to a better amp.

I bought the Rifa from SxxxxWell in jln pasar. I think they only have a pair only at that time. One for RM28. I'm damn sure i'll buy it at that time. Some China modder said it is the best in the world?
With my knowledge I don't dare to say it, I only can agree it is among the best. What do u think?

Have you changed ur op amp? and I would also like to know the subwoofer's spec and brand u r using.
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QUOTE(thh1212 @ Jun 20 2007, 10:34 AM)
Here are your guides:

1. Go to the car speaker shop and buy a powerful 6.5" woofer and change it with the S4.1 subwoofer. Watt doesn't matter, it just the maximum rating anyway. Anything higher the the S4.1 subwoofer 60W is ok.

2. Change the 35V 4700uF capacitors to 10000uF minimum 35V. I think capacitor's brand doesn't matter much if u just want more bass. (Of course branded is better)

3. Add some sound absorpting cotton or sponge in the subwoofer.

4. Getting a Phillip PSC805 also a good idea, the soundcard bass is strong.
Personally, I don't prefer bass. I'm using PSC805 with my modded S4.1 currently. I moded my S4.1 to get clearer and harder bass and improve the clarity of the mid. Now the LFE of my S4.1 controller need to turn to minimum and lower the bass frequency in equalizer of foobar to get the bass that i prefered while enjoying music. 

I think Edifier S4.1 is built with clarity in mind, it's the clarity the stand out among it's price range.
Have a nice try to unleash the beast of your S4.1 subwoofer.
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bro,u hardcore bro.... hardcore...thanks for the info.
i dont think i can do this modification... too technical for noob like me


Added on June 20, 2007, 6:02 pm
QUOTE(thh1212 @ Jun 20 2007, 10:34 AM)
Here are your guides:

1. Go to the car speaker shop and buy a powerful 6.5" woofer and change it with the S4.1 subwoofer. Watt doesn't matter, it just the maximum rating anyway. Anything higher the the S4.1 subwoofer 60W is ok.

2. Change the 35V 4700uF capacitors to 10000uF minimum 35V. I think capacitor's brand doesn't matter much if u just want more bass. (Of course branded is better)

3. Add some sound absorpting cotton or sponge in the subwoofer.

4. Getting a Phillip PSC805 also a good idea, the soundcard bass is strong.
Personally, I don't prefer bass. I'm using PSC805 with my modded S4.1 currently. I moded my S4.1 to get clearer and harder bass and improve the clarity of the mid. Now the LFE of my S4.1 controller need to turn to minimum and lower the bass frequency in equalizer of foobar to get the bass that i prefered while enjoying music. 

I think Edifier S4.1 is built with clarity in mind, it's the clarity the stand out among it's price range.
Have a nice try to unleash the beast of your S4.1 subwoofer.
*
bro,u hardcore bro.... hardcore...thanks for the info.
i dont think i can do this modification... too technical for noob like me


Added on June 20, 2007, 6:02 pm
QUOTE(thh1212 @ Jun 20 2007, 10:34 AM)
Here are your guides:

1. Go to the car speaker shop and buy a powerful 6.5" woofer and change it with the S4.1 subwoofer. Watt doesn't matter, it just the maximum rating anyway. Anything higher the the S4.1 subwoofer 60W is ok.

2. Change the 35V 4700uF capacitors to 10000uF minimum 35V. I think capacitor's brand doesn't matter much if u just want more bass. (Of course branded is better)

3. Add some sound absorpting cotton or sponge in the subwoofer.

4. Getting a Phillip PSC805 also a good idea, the soundcard bass is strong.
Personally, I don't prefer bass. I'm using PSC805 with my modded S4.1 currently. I moded my S4.1 to get clearer and harder bass and improve the clarity of the mid. Now the LFE of my S4.1 controller need to turn to minimum and lower the bass frequency in equalizer of foobar to get the bass that i prefered while enjoying music. 

I think Edifier S4.1 is built with clarity in mind, it's the clarity the stand out among it's price range.
Have a nice try to unleash the beast of your S4.1 subwoofer.
*
bro,u hardcore bro.... hardcore...thanks for the info.
i dont think i can do this modification... too technical for noob like me


Added on June 20, 2007, 6:06 pm
QUOTE(xterminator @ Jun 20 2007, 01:44 PM)
Tai ko...I'm a basshead too..but I love like Adams?Digital and tomahawk demo car...I feel like flying when they blast....the speaker can say super duper..wor...out topic liao...

So if you want bass choose S2.1mkII,
If me, that still not enough..my speaker is 10"..got two la...still not enough.. tongue.gif
No need change...6.5 inch sub bass wont powerful than the 10 inch ma...
Buy S2.1MkII... icon_rolleyes.gif
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u greed bro... greed...
s2.1mkII sounds gud bro,at lyp,where can test it out?which floor?
i wana bring my abeng cd n test it out myself nod.gif
who is phil jones?is he the maker for this speaker?


This post has been edited by hansapkuay: Jun 20 2007, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE(hansapkuay @ Jun 20 2007, 06:00 PM)
bro,u hardcore bro.... hardcore...thanks for the info.
i dont think i can do this modification... too technical for noob like me


Added on June 20, 2007, 6:02 pm
bro,u hardcore bro.... hardcore...thanks for the info.
i dont think i can do this modification... too technical for noob like me


Added on June 20, 2007, 6:02 pm
bro,u hardcore bro.... hardcore...thanks for the info.
i dont think i can do this modification... too technical for noob like me


Added on June 20, 2007, 6:06 pm
u greed bro... greed...
s2.1mkII sounds gud bro,at lyp,where can test it out?which floor?
i wana bring my abeng cd n test it out myself nod.gif
who is phil jones?is he the maker for this speaker?
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PhilJones is not the maker, he is the musician lo.... thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by Akabane@DrJackel: Jun 20 2007, 07:41 PM
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post Jun 20 2007, 08:04 PM

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