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 Mar 16 2016, 06:03 PM
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Pentagon Claims Fewer Than 10 Russian Aircraft Left Syria in Last 24 Hours  QUOTE Asked how many Russian aircraft the United States has seen withdrawn from Syria, Cook said, “Small number of aircraft.” QUOTE “Less than 10, that’s what we have seen,” the spokesperson added. http://sputniknews.com/military/20160315/1...ssia-syria.html |
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Mar 16 2016, 06:07 PM
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This epic map shows the border disputes that could tear Asia apart  QUOTE As the US makes a military and strategic “pivot to Asia,” it is entering a highly complex and fluid geopolitical environment. China’s territorial disputes with its neighbors in the South China Sea have become a major point of contention in the region and maybe even a source of future violent conflict — and the rising superpower is far from the only country in the area with conflicts on its borders. This map shows that the borders in Asia aren’t nearly as fixed as they might seem. China and India, the two most populous countries in the world, have numerous simmering boundary disputes. So do regional powers like Russia and Japan, along with more peripheral players in central Asia and the South China Sea. http://www.businessinsider.my/asias-disput...uzGem6LqD4sU.97 |
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Mar 16 2016, 06:22 PM
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ANALYSIS: Enough is enough... Russia's message to Assad  QUOTE Russia's partial pull-out from Syria does not end its mission but could be seen as a message to President Bashar al-Assad that Moscow wants him to take peace negotiations seriously, according to analysts. QUOTE "It was becoming clear to them that their objectives in Syria were not necessarily the same as Assad’s,” she said. QUOTE “The Russians were angered by Assad’s presidential decree to set 13 April for the elections. They felt that such a decision upended the Vienna timetable [on peace talks] and finally they were very angry with [Walid] Moallem’s ‘red line’ about Assad – setting a precondition when the agreement was there were no preconditions,” she added QUOTE “The primary message is to Assad, the secondary message is to the Americans and the Arab governments saying 'we are serious about the political process'. The third message is to the opposition that they should also be serious.” QUOTE “I don’t think [the Russians] would object to the idea of Assad eventually contesting elections, but I don’t see them fighting for it and I don’t think they share Assad’s objectives that he has to regain control over all of Syria,” Slim said. QUOTE “[Assad] in a way took Russia for granted and that is partly what Putin is trying to say: ‘you cannot take us for granted. We are not going to help you achieve control over all of Syria, we are not going to help you not negotiate in good faith, we are not going to help you if you are not serious about the political process.’” QUOTE “What the withdrawal does is put pressure on the Assad regime, because they have to be wondering whether or not the Russians will come back in or not. http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/analysis...assad-992962401 |
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Mar 16 2016, 06:27 PM
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THE PENTAGON WANTS TECHNOLOGY TO FIGHT WARS IN BIG CITIES AND UNDERGROUND  QUOTE “From the Halls of Montezuma, To the shores of Tripoli, We fight our country’s battles, In the air, on land, and sea.” So opens the official hymn of the United States Marine Corps, and it covers the great scope of the American military. The Marines in particular find themselves fighting in all domains, with the Air Force, Army, and Navy each getting their fair share of air, land, and see. Yet as war evolves, and as the military looks to the future of combat, there are places it hasn’t yet fought. The Pentagon wants ideas on how to fight a war in megacities and caves. And they want to know by next week. QUOTE Today, there are at least 148 underground transit systems in cities across the world, and with them, lots and lots of tunnels and alternative routes through cities. Fighting a war in the future may mean fighting in a giant city, and it may mean fighting literally underground. http://www.popsci.com/pentagon-wants-techn...and-underground |
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Mar 16 2016, 06:36 PM
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The Latest: Syrian Kurds to declare federal region in Syria  QUOTE Nawaf Khalil of the Democratic Union Party told The Associated Press that his party is not lobbying for an only-Kurdish region but wants to see the "model of federalism applied to all of Syria." Khalil, in a phone interview, says the area envisioned for northern Syria would include representation for Turkmen, Arabs and Kurds. The declaration is expected to be made at the end of a Kurdish conference that is being held Wednesday in the town of Rmeilan in northern Syria. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/articl...l#ixzz433qSD6VM Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook |
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Mar 16 2016, 06:51 PM
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What’s Behind China’s ‘New’ South China Sea Tsunami Warning Center?  QUOTE To the untrained eye, the Reuters article might seem to suggest that this tsunami alert center is a new development with potentially nefarious intentions, particularly given China’s recent behavior in the South China Sea. While some of these assertions can be debated, it is important to get some facts straight first. QUOTE First, the idea of a Chinese tsunami alert center is not a new one and has in fact been in the works for years. QUOTE China then openly offered to build its own tsunami early-warning center in subsequent UN meetings. In September 2013, as was widely reported by Chinese media outlets, Beijing’s proposal to build the center was approved by the assembly of the IOC within UNESCO, and China’s National Marine Environmental Forecasting Center was made responsible for building the center. QUOTE Second, tsunami warning centers typically do not cover one body of water exclusively, and China’s new one appears to not only cover the South China Sea. For example, the U.S.-based PTWC mentioned earlier issues advisories to countries of the Pacific Ocean as well as the South China Sea and Caribbean, while the Japan-based JMA issues advisories for the Northwest Pacific as well as the South China Sea. Up to this point, according to China’s State Oceanic Administration which Wang now heads, Beijing’s new tsunami early-warning center had been meant to cover not just the South China Sea, but also the Sulu and Sulawesi Seas. QUOTE Third and finally, while one would not put it past Beijing to use its new tsunami alert center as part of its expansionist agenda in the South China Sea, up to this point it has yet to do so. The Reuters article suggests China may be using the center for “bolstering its jurisdiction in the disputed waters” of the South China Sea, which would be in line with its “assertive pursuit of territory.” And, indeed, given China’s assertive acts there as well as some of its rather laughable justifications for them, it is not too hard to imagine Beijing publicizing the tsunami early-warning center as part of the range of “public services” – as navy chief Wu Shengli put it last year – that it can provide in the South China Sea with its reclamation and future militarization efforts http://thediplomat.com/2016/03/whats-behin...warning-center/ |
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Mar 17 2016, 12:20 AM
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Navy training helicopter makes hard landing in Florida
 QUOTE A Navy helicopter with a Florida-based training squadron made a hard landing Tuesday afternoon with two crew members aboard. Around 4:25 p.m. local time, a helicopter with Helicopter Training Squadron 18, made a hard landing at Naval Outlying Airfield Santa Rosa, Florida, according to a Navy release. Police and fire crews responded to the scene. An instructor and student aviator exited the aircraft and were taken to a local hospital for evaluation. There were no visible injuries, the release said. The incident is under investigation. HT-18 is based at Naval Air Station Whiting Field, where aviators in training fly the TH-57 Sea Ranger as part of advanced helicopter training. [sos] |
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Mar 17 2016, 12:22 AM
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Iraqi Air Force Cessna plane crashes, 3 crew missing
 QUOTE Baghdad (AFP) - An Iraqi army plane crashed during a reconnaissance flight near the city of Kirkuk on Wednesday and its three crew went missing, a high-ranking military source said, blaming a "technical problem". The Islamic State jihadist group claimed it had shot down an Iraqi military plane in the area, killing five crew members. The military source said authorities had launched a search for the crew after the Cessna 208 Caravan went down near Kirkuk, around 220 kilometres (135 miles) north of Baghdad. In a statement on Twitter, IS said it had shot down a military plane with anti-aircraft artillery and that it been on a bombing run against the city of Hawija, a stronghold of the jihadists in Kirkuk province. Iraqi forces have been making gains against the jihadists in recent months as they seek to reclaim territory seized by IS during a major offensive in 2014. [sos] This post has been edited by KYPMbangi: Mar 17 2016, 12:22 AM |
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Mar 17 2016, 12:24 AM
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23-year-old man on way to Syria to join Kurdish militia fighting against ISIS arrested under ISA
 SINGAPORE - Late last year, Wang Yuandongyi learnt about the Kurds in Syria and how they were facing attacks from terrorist group Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS). He began to empathise with their plight, and started detesting ISIS. Two months later, he left Singapore to make his way to Syria, but was stopped in time, the Ministry of Home Affairs said on Wednesday (March 16), in announcing his arrest. Wang, a naturalized Singaporean of China origin, has been placed on a Restriction Order with effect from this month. 4 Singaporeans arrested under ISA for involvement in armed violence abroad The 23-year-old was looking to escape from personal setbacks, the ministry said in its release, which gave a summary of what its investigations found. He was in debt from a failed business venture. In December 2015, Wang got in touch with a Kurdish militia group online to express his interest to join them in fighting ISIS. At the same time, he communicated with like-minded individuals online about joining the militia group. He also discussed possible travel routes to Syria with at least two of them . In January 2016, Wang left Singapore for a third country, and planned to make his way to Turkey and then Syria from there. The ministry did not name the third country. But it said Wang brought with him some Singapore Armed Forces-issued military gear like his uniform and boots, which he planned to use on the battlefield.  However, his plans were thwarted when someone who became aware of his intentions reported him to the authorities. At Singapore's request, Wang was located by the authorities of the third country and was turned back to Singapore. The ministry also said Wang had arrived in Singapore as a child and was educated here. He completed National Service and obtained his citizenship in 2014. He was arrested in February 2016 under the Internal Security Act and placed on a Restriction Order(RO), which limits his movements and activities, from March 2016. As part of the rehabilitation programme, Wang will undergo psychological counselling to steer him away from resorting to violence. He will also be closely monitored by the authorities under the RO regime. The ministry said in its release that the Government "takes a stern view against anyone who supports, promotes, undertakes or makes preparations to undertake armed violence, regardless of how they rationalise such violence ideologically, or where the violence takes place". "In the case of Wang, even though his motivation to join the Kurdish militia group and fight against ISIS in Syria was not ideologically-driven, the fact remains that he intended to engage in an armed conflict overseas. "Geography does not mask the fact that such individuals would have demonstrated a dangerous tendency to support the use of violence," it said. "Their involvement in overseas conflicts can also jeopardise Singapore's national interests, including our bilateral relations. They are deemed to pose a threat to Singapore's security, and will be firmly dealt with in accordance with our laws," the ministry added. http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/23-y...t-isis-arrested |
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Mar 17 2016, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Mar 16 2016, 08:16 AM) Tanks guns shoot further these days too. Just sayin' No they are not. At least not how you're thinking. When Rheinmetall introduced the L55, the focus is on penetration power, with range increase being an added bonus (because increased gun length=longer range) You can only get significant increase in gun range by employing gun-launched ATGM |
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Mar 17 2016, 12:49 AM
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Mar 17 2016, 05:28 AM
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QUOTE(cunnilinguist @ Mar 17 2016, 12:33 AM) No they are not. At least not how you're thinking. When Rheinmetall introduced the L55, the focus is on penetration power, with range increase being an added bonus (because increased gun length=longer range) True, but you don't need super penetration to kill a missile team or even ATGM-armed IFV. Metis-M has a 2km range, standard L55 range is 2.5km with older rounds, probably more now. Bushmaster 3km+. Hell even Mk 19 40mm AGL goes out to 1.5km+. Point is, Metis-M isn't that amazing any more, we should shop for Kornet or the Chinese knockoff You can only get significant increase in gun range by employing gun-launched ATGM  Speaking of which, what weapons do our infantry battalion weapons coy carry? Do all squads carry Milkor MGL or just certain battalions or just GGK? |
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Mar 17 2016, 10:17 AM
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Russia ready to start production of dual-control version of Night Hunter attack helicopter  QUOTE According to him, the Mi-28UB helicopter will be largely similar in characteristics to the Mi-28NE export version with the dual control system that makes it possible to control the helicopter both from the pilot’s cockpit and from the cockpit of the operator pilot who acts as an instructor. Barannikov said that the company is currently in negotiations with "two or three foreign customers" on possible supplies of the Mi-28NE helicopters. "And at the MAKS-2015 exhibition about five or six countries took a serious interest in them", the Rostvertol deputy director said. According to him, the countries that have experience in using real combat helicopters and operating Russia’s Mi-8 and Mi-24 type helicopters are the customers for Mi-28NE. Barannikov also said that the Mi-28 helicopters are equipped with the VK-2500 engines manufactured by a Russian company, so there is no problem with the engines. "Keeping all the functions of an attack helicopter, the dual-control Mi-28NE greatly simplifies the training process of military pilots who need flying hours on the Night Hunter. The new helicopter has a larger cockpit, equipped with modern energy-attenuating seats", the holding said earlier on Wednesday. According to Rostvertol, the first prototype of the Mi-28NE helicopter with dual flight controls was made in 2014, and in late 2015 the joint state tests were completed. Two contracts on the helicopters’ supply to foreign customers have been signed by now. "The unique capabilities of the new combat helicopter open excellent prospects for its sale both in Russia and abroad", Russian Helicopters CEO Alexander Mikheyev was quoted by the company’s press service. The dual-control Mi-28NE is a new-generation all-weather attack helicopter. Its main objectives are to destroy armored vehicles, hit low-flying low-speed air targets, aerial reconnaissance, as well as target detection for combat helicopters and warplanes. http://tass.ru/en/defense/862722 |
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Mar 17 2016, 10:24 AM
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The U.S. Air Force Wanted to Build a Stealth Transport Plane   QUOTE On Oct. 19, 2001, 200 U.S. Army Rangers parachuted onto a dry lake bed near Kandahar, Afghanistan. After securing the drop zone and finding a nearby Taliban compound empty, the elite soldiers boarded a number of U.S. Air Force MC-130H Combat Talon II transports and left the battlefield. Even if Taliban forces had been nearby, they lacked radars to spot the incoming raiders or large numbers of deadly surface-to-air missiles that might’ve scuttled the American mission before it even started. Even so, the Pentagon sent stealthy B-2 bombers to hit nearby targets before the Rangers touched down. Against a more high-tech enemy, the specialized troop-carriers and their human cargo might’ve been much more vulnerable. QUOTE By 2009, the Air Force’s commando headquarters had started looking at acquiring a stealthy transport plane to make infiltrating hostile areas a safer proposition. Dubbed “Project IX,” the proposed plane would have filled multiple “gaps and shortfalls” in existing aircraft such as the Combat Talon, according to the Air Force. “Project IX will provide significantly better aircraft performance,” Air Force officials write in a concept document that War Is Boring obtained via the Freedom of Information Act. “The … configuration has yet to be determined and additional analysis will be required.” QUOTE Most importantly, the new plane would take advantage of “low-observable” technology — in other words, it would be stealthy. A radar-evading shape would be central to the design. Like the Air Force’s upcoming B-21 bomber, the project would require the utmost secrecy. “There are lessons learned and precedents for such responsibility regarding other specialized aircraft (F-117, B-2, F-22, etc.),” the report explains. “Project IX will take full advantage of them.” A graphic in the report features nondescript black silhouettes to depict the Project IX planes in their larger context. No other art is present in the declassified portions of the document. QUOTE The new commando transport would have to be just as good on impromptu dirt airstrips as it was on well-maintained, concrete runways. Of more than 10,000 airfields around the world in a 2007 National Geospatial Intelligence Agency database, fewer than 1,500 were paved, according to the document. http://warisboring.com/articles/the-u-s-ai...ransport-plane/ |
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Mar 17 2016, 11:14 AM
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Big Military Surplus Helicopter Sale Starts At $14,000  QUOTE The choppers are being sold off by Witham Specialist Vehicles Limited, which hocks surplus equipment for the British Ministry Of Defense (MoD) just like GovPlanet does for the American military over here. A fleet of about 30 Sea Kings, which can carry 27 people and lift about 5,000 pounds on slings, are now sitting at the unused Grantham airfield in conditions ranging from potentially-flyable to “lawn art only” according to the Telegraph. But what lawn art! Witham’s Managing Director Paul Southerington says the “hulks” could be bought for £10,000 to £20,000 ($14,000 to $30,000) while “working” helicopters would be over $200,000. So far it looks like they’ve only listed this three-pack of Sea King HC4 Commando MK 4 variants that were designed to run in the mountains of Afghanistan. You can buy them directly from military storage for £150,000 ($211,723.52) with all necessary paperwork, but you’ll have to provide your own engines to get them off the ground. http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/big-milit...-000-1765288238 |
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Mar 17 2016, 11:31 AM
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Marines Will Soon Need to Know How to Shoot a Moving Target, Because That Wasn't a Thing Before QUOTE According to a report in the Marine Corps Times, the military’s Semper Fidelis contingent is finally adding moving targets to its list of marksmanship qualifications. Soon, in addition to stationary targets, Marines will also need to know how to successfully gun down a mobile object. The precise training method is still in development—the request was reportedly made to the Weapons Training Battalion in October, and made public in February—but apparently Marines have been talking about their lack of success with moving targets “for years.” The actual practical implementation of a training method, however, is a tad more complicated. There are a few shooting ranges right now that serve as testing sites for moving targets, but they’re expensive because of the targets themselves: ROBOTS! http://gizmodo.com/marines-will-soon-need-...g-ta-1765299997 |
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Mar 17 2016, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Mar 17 2016, 11:14 AM) Big Military Surplus Helicopter Sale Starts At $14,000 More nuri.... hahahahttp://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/big-milit...-000-1765288238 I bet putm will hate it |
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Mar 17 2016, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 17 2016, 01:32 PM) More nuri.... hahaha free take only.. I bet putm will hate it Australian submarines should be built entirely at home - Germany's TKMS Australia's new AUS$50 billion (27 billion pounds) submarine fleet  should be built entirely within Australia, ThyssenKrupp AG's shipbuilding unit said on Thursday, making the German firm the first bidder to publicly endorse domestic construction as the best option.Germany is up against Japan and France for one of the world's most lucrative defence contracts. Each was required under the terms to provide three proposals for construction - entirely overseas, entirely in Australia and a hybrid of the two. A decision on the politically sensitive contract is expected within months, ahead of an Australian national election in which the deal and the jobs it will create are expected to be a key issue for the conservative government. "An all-Australian build is the best option for Australia as it offers the most efficient and lowest-cost approach," TKMS Chairman Hans Atzpodien said in an address in Canberra. "It has become quite clear to us that Australia has the local engineering and technical skills as well as capacity to help build the new submarine fleet." Competition for the deal has been narrowing to a race between Japan and France, sources have told Reuters, with Tokyo playing up its strategic support from Washington and Paris emphasising how its proposal would help Australia's slowing economy. This week, France sent executives from French corporate giants Airbus, BNP Paribas, Thales and dozens more to Canberra to talk up the economic benefits of its bid. TKMS is proposing to scale up its 2,000-tonne Type 214 class submarine, while Japan is offering a variant of its 4,000-tonne Soryu boats made by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries and Kawasaki Heavy Industries.   France's state-controlled naval contractor DCNS has proposed a diesel-electric version of its 5,000-tonne Barracuda nuclear-powered submarine.  Tokyo was initially seen as the frontrunner, due to close ties between Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and former Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott, who was ousted in a party coup by Malcolm Turnbull last September, and perceived support from Washington to build closer ties between two key Asian allies. Australia announced in a long-awaited White Paper released last month that it would increase defence spending by nearly AUS$30 billion over the next 10 years in order to protect its strategic and trade interests in the Asia-Pacific region. (Reporting by Matt Siegel; Editing by Edwina Gibbs) |
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Mar 17 2016, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Mar 17 2016, 05:28 AM) True, but you don't need super penetration to kill a missile team or even ATGM-armed IFV. Metis-M has a 2km range, standard L55 range is 2.5km with older rounds, probably more now. Bushmaster 3km+. Hell even Mk 19 40mm AGL goes out to 1.5km+. Point is, Metis-M isn't that amazing any more, we should shop for Kornet or the Chinese knockoff Although a basic HE tank shell can kill soft targets effectively, a good co-axial autocannon/HMG will be more useful in countering ATGM teams. The main gun can only fire one shell per shot, while an autocannon/HMG allows you to sweep the suspected area with heavy rapid fire in an extended burst. This is where a good APS with missile launch detection system can be a life-saver. Some systems can even automatically turn the turret towards the general area of a missile launch. Also need to remember that unless the ATGM is a fire-and-forget system, the operator of a SACLOS-type missile needs to keep the aiming reticle on the target with the aiming optics at all times from launch to impact. Even a near miss by the tank's autocannon/ HMG return fire would probably enough to distract or flinch the missile operator into missing the target entirely, especially is the target is moving. Even if the ATGM team is behind some kind of hard cover, the autocannon shells would also be quite effective in penetrating cover like sandbags or building walls that the ATGM team may take cover behind. Also, lighter ATGM carrier vehicles can also be easily destroyed by anything larger than 20mm explosive/AP shell. This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Mar 17 2016, 12:45 PM |
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Mar 17 2016, 03:50 PM
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