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post May 4 2016, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ May 4 2016, 09:15 PM)
we already getting 3 of 5, Submrine, LCS, SGPV, now wating LMV & MRSS.  hopefully LMV can produce 24 unit base on our huge maritime area.
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this is what I'm looking for:

LCS = Gowind, progress ada sampai 1/year also I happy mad.gif hopefully faster but sighhhh doh.gif

SGPV = SGPV/LCS is Gowind; it says NGPV aka Kedah class on the chart, if it means adding the Exocets and some kind of SAM like VL MICA that'd be good

Submarine ada tambah? 2 biji like... not enough... 1 in port 1 at sea means essentially 1 available only

LMV = I don't know what this means, hoping for more FAC (M), minesweepers and a survey ship. Patrol boat role I think pushed off to MMEA with their OPV program

MRSS = True MRSS or oversized LPD? I dunno. Hopefully something like a 2-spot heli carrier with few LCMs and significant OOTW equipment rather than a glorified Ro/Ro with 1 helipad

Note it says green water navy, so 5kt ships and underway replen probably still a distant fantasy...
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post May 5 2016, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ May 4 2016, 11:58 PM)
LCS = 1st will launching middle 2017. system/equipment fitting & sea/weapon test will take 18 month.  so handover for RMN in early 2019.

SGPV = will be Kedah class size.

Submarine = good to add 2 more. usually 2 in sea, 1 in rest, 1 in repair.

LMV = Littoral Mission Vessel,  i guest/hope will be 500-600 tons class。 hope can built up to 24 unit。something like patrol boat add weapon system, UAV so can add many mission.  main job to do counter Smuggling/kidnapping/robbery at sea。also as beginning for navy man getting experience in ship before going to bigger ship.

MRSS = basically LPD add support role,like transportation/re-supply/refueling/SAR/navy class 3 hospital capability, usually can fit up to 5 helicopter with 2/3 heli pad. anyway role depend tonnes and option by navy.
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I don't understand what you mean by N/SGPV, NGPV is supposed to be Kedah and SGPV is supposed to be Gowind, settled already. I don't think there is a 3rd batch coming? So what else is to be done under NGPV other than fitting the SSM + SAM properly to the Kedahs?

Submarine I assume we can get 50% availability since ours are short coastal ops rather than the 1:3 cycle bluewater navies use. Am I wrong? Point is we don't have enough anyway...

LMV (if it refers to combatants and not minesweepers etc.) armed with guns only seems redundant considering MMEA's OPV program, so I hope for Exocet SSM at least and hopefully MICA or some other SAM. Germany's Gepard class looks pretty good.

I begin to think MRSS with more heli is better than MRSS with welldeck... but if so then its still a glorified Ro/Ro... unless the purpose is not tank transport but heli assault and humanitarian, which makes it an LPH not LPD...

Whatever it is 1 thing I'm happy, it seems we're going heavily into UAVs to make up for our lack of heli... that's a good decision.

QUOTE(lk23 @ May 4 2016, 10:23 PM)
A friend in navy told me they are interested in the scalable Kedah class as the lmv but that's just rumour among Navy personnel. Maybe ltz knows better.
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If it brings down costs, great! Something like German Gepard class with UAV or helipad looks solid.

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post May 6 2016, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ May 6 2016, 08:37 PM)
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Hmm my reporter friend is on Stennis. Anyone know how come there's a press pool on board with reporters from Msia?
QUOTE(thpace @ May 6 2016, 10:43 PM)
Oh ASEAN,

bet malaysia armed forces could only look at envy
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Welp, fingers crossed for Typhoon... hopefully...
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post May 7 2016, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ May 6 2016, 11:30 PM)
keep that finger cross that no deal will be make at least 2-3 year from now
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can only hope laugh.gif
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post May 11 2016, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(hafizushi @ May 11 2016, 02:48 PM)
if i had to choose between typhoon or rafale, i will chose typhoon but does typhoon have two seated version?

and if we have the money to buy typhoon might as well take a look at F15 strike E  blink.gif
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choice probably due to govt concessions in part, if US isn't allowing us to pay "instalmen murah! tanpa cengkeram!" then unlikely F15E or F18 lah laugh.gif

have we stated a need for 2 seater variant? Typhoon has (had?) 2 seater trainer but not sure if still production capable

I personally favour Typhoon, I think the manoeuvreability, AESA radar and future weapon development plan looks good. Imagine blasting Sulus with Brimstones wink.gif
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post May 14 2016, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ May 13 2016, 03:58 PM)
not sure why they cant just absorb manpower from their territorial/reserve army?
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because their territorial army is already stretched to fulfill ordinary manning requirements. TA used to provide additional whole infantry battalions to fill out divisions during Cold Wartime, since the end of USSR they have a partner regiment system with each regular unit partnered with a TA unit. Partnering used to mean the TA unit will fill combat casualties in the regular unit. Then the Regular battalion became a 3-company unit with TA filling in the 4th company. Now Regular is barely hitting 2 companies and TA fill in the 3rd company... and the various Afghanistan operations proved the weekend warriors can't keep up standards and need extra training to be operational. That's how bad manning in UK has become.

Worst part is that the article is talking about engineering and combat support roles. Firstly TA can't be relied to staff combat support due to the specialist knowledge and training needed. Furthermore because of a controversial decision to allocate combat support units to the understrength reserve infantry battalions the overall Regular army has even less combat support to allocate to their main fighting units. Their readiness is really in the shits, we won't see UK truly ready for major ops until 2020 at least, maybe even 2025. And even then their main strength will be QE2 and 2 handfuls of F35Bs.
QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ May 13 2016, 10:51 PM)
lol... you're right... damn... wonder wth are they thinking, at least not given to indo
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Don't know what happened, budget problems perhaps? Their army basically combined with German Army liao.
QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ May 13 2016, 05:35 PM)
UK, Netherlands and france not there...  sad.gif
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UK temper tantrum cause Challenger 2 got beaten in the 90s I think... they claimed the exercise was unfair and their tanks are for war not games whistling.gif with only 200+ frankly aged CR2s, might be they have problems preparing for the games and supplying operational needs.

France I dunno why, would have liked to see Leclerc in action... possibly they don't want to expose its flaws, its said to be slower than most other MBTs.

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post May 16 2016, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ May 16 2016, 11:43 AM)
Front view of the Indonesian Army new Leopard 2RI Main Battle Tank. The Leopard 2RI is an upgraded Leopard 2A4 implementing upgrade packages from Rheinmetall MBT Revolution. Credit to anas_nurhafidz@defence.pk.

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http://defence.pk/threads/indonesia-milita...229571/page-656
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I have to wonder who the Indon army thinks it needs Leopards to fight.
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post May 16 2016, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ May 16 2016, 07:13 PM)
still FN-6 is chinese product.
PUTD not really get helos they want, basically rubbish helos from other unit unwanted helos.
if said like this we should not buy strategic Chinese civilian product too. like train, aircraft, car not allow to sell here. not give contract to china. 
Starstreak Manpads... errr ... what they can attack in air? bcos not money than only buy this loh ...
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Without money for a real IADS those SHORAD are the best we can do, and the Starstreak seems to be a pretty good deal.

In wartime it doesn't matter if we have FN-6 since most MANPADs have similar performance, but as the Argentinians and British both learned in 1982 more sophisticated weaponry becomes a problem. Firstly Argentina lacked Exocets because France was pressured to halt shipment and assistance especially of the technicians already in Argentina installing the firing equipment. Secondly Argentina's familiarity with the British Type 42 destroyer led to their ability to penetrate the British SAM shield and sink Sheffield and Atlantic Conveyor. Imagine if we bought SAMs from China and we have to use them on their jets? They will know exact details of their performance and freq bands and how to evade. Tanks also they will know exactly the armour performance, weak areas, how to defeat any APS or ECM... plus any tanks and components they still hold when conflict is approaching would be seized. Given the South China Sea situation you really want to risk entering into contracts with them? Defence equipment is not cash and carry, it will be years before everything is delivered.

IMHO MRCA is the number 1 priority now along with TLDM, the Army has enough goodies to deal with insurgents already.
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post May 17 2016, 03:15 PM

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Phew, crew survived. Dayum tiba2 bola kecut ingat MIG terhempap laugh.gif

QUOTE(waja2000 @ May 17 2016, 10:26 AM)
i not said MBT is 1 priority for now. i mainly refer  on next phase MBT no need get branded MBT. 
if follow my olded reply, my point always is we should get some value china weapon product which not the key impact to war win/loss, and serve currently we need. since we no have money get other too.
1982 falklands war is long tima ago, than can't take as reference for current war, new generation high tech war, totally different from 30+ year ago.
we still have capability war with china? or china jets stupid come let you shot it down?  our SAM still can survive in war?  or we have  capability protect china missile attack?
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Well what kind of China product are you thinking of then? By the time we're ready to focus back on MBT hopefully we have at least a few more ships and jet aircraft than now and a working IADS. By then probably we can pick up T-90s or upgraded T-80s or surplus Leopards. Or maybe UK finally give up on Challenger whistling.gif

1982 was a long time ago but still remains relevant as it is 1 of the very few modern wars fought between peer adversaries (some people don't consider Iraq 1 or 2 to have been such) and the only one involving submarines. Don't forget also how Exocet featured in it.

Likewise the lesson learned from Iraq (and more recently Syria) is that masses of cheap tanks is like nothing compared to a few top class MBTs.

Exactly, we do not have a capability to defend the country from Chinese jets or missiles. So if we buy something like a Chinese SAM for this purpose it would be even more useless. Nobody except the developing and operating countries knows the true limitations of each weapon system, especially radars and SAMs.
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post May 18 2016, 04:03 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ May 17 2016, 05:27 PM)
By time want get new MBT only think, depend year and MBT offer in market.
Iraq war is Asymmetry war, they loss Air supremacy, than MBT just become totally useless become any one target. cheap weapon not means less capability, some should see as value for money weapon, due to low production cost of country develop.
we should think how future war look like, what need for future war.
Exocet actually very old missile already, and most people already very familiar on it, and also more easy to take it down, also abit too shot range.
not useless if buy SAM from china, depend how you look, it help more close alliance with china, improve relationship. not much different get other SAM still useless, at the end, next 15-20 year we no have money to get long range SAM system.
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MBT certainly should be very far away.
If not Iraq then Syria should be a lesson on cheap tanks whistling.gif
Close alliance with China? can't trust those people
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post May 18 2016, 08:09 AM

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Royal Air Force Typhoons intercept Russian aircraft near Baltics
From: Ministry of Defence
First published: 12 May 2016

Royal Air Force Typhoon fighter jets have carried out their first intercept of Russian aircraft in this round of NATO’s Baltic Air Policing mission (BAP). The jets, which deployed to the region less than three weeks ago, were scrambled from Amari air base in Estonia, to intercept three Russian aircraft approaching the Baltic states. The military transport aircraft identified as AN-26 ‘Curl, AN-12 ‘Cub’ and IL-76 ‘Candid’ were intercepted as they were not transmitting a recognised identification code and were unresponsive.

Defence Secretary Michael Fallon said: "This is another example of just how important the UK’s contribution to the Baltic Air Policing Mission is. We were able to instantly respond to this act of Russian aggression - demonstration of our commitment to NATO’s collective defence."

Four RAF Typhoon and pilots from II (Army Co-operation) Squadron from Royal Air Force Lossiemouth, were deployed in April to support the BAP mission, an enduring defensive NATO effort that sees alliance members without their own air policing assets assisted by others in four-monthly cycles. This rotation, which is the third consecutive year the UK has committed to BAP, will see UK jets operating alongside Portuguese F16s operating from Šiauliai in Lithuania.

Last time, Typhoon fighters were scrambled 17 times, and intercepted over 40 Russian aircraft. During one launch last July, the Typhoons intercepted 10 separate Russian aircraft, including eight fighters.

One of the pilots involved in the mission said;
"The scramble went exactly as planned, we launched our Typhoon aircraft quickly and then using our advanced sensors and mission systems, combined with support from our Battlespace Managers on the ground, carried out textbook intercepts of the three aircraft"

The mission in Estonia is supported by elements from across the Royal Air Force, deployed as 140 Expeditionary Air Wing (140 EAW). When asked about the mission Wing Commander Gordon Melville, Officer Commanding 140 EAW said;
"We have once more proven our ability to secure the skies in the vicinity of the Baltic States and have demonstrated the close link between the Royal Air Force, Estonian and NATO units that have planned and enabled this defensive response so successfully. We will continue to standby 24/7 to secure the Baltic skies."

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RAF Typhoon and Russian AN-26 Curl.
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 RAF Typhoon and Russian IL-76 Candid.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/royal-ai...ft-near-baltics
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TLDM firing Sea Skua, not sure if posted yet or not
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post May 20 2016, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ May 20 2016, 10:58 AM)
US 'rebalancing' is fishing in S. China(snip)
Writtem by (gasp) CHINESE Ambassador to ASEAN doh.gif
Why Straits Times publish tho?

QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ May 20 2016, 10:30 AM)
hmm... wonder who's supplying them such weapons..
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FSA. TOW. Who else?
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post May 24 2016, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ May 24 2016, 06:45 PM)
The issue is the electronic component are from zeonist.

Through raf does not really mind, public sentiment make take effect on eventual selection
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so damn kek lar
even Great Muslim Ottoman Empire whistling.gif Turkey do trade and military deal with Israel, but over here close eyes, jari sumbat telinga "lalalala i can't hear you death to juice" doh.gif
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post May 24 2016, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ May 24 2016, 09:51 PM)
Key Syrian airbase ‘partly destroyed’ by ISIS attack

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/key-sy...ed-isis-attack/
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Dayummm T4 kena hit. Probably one of the most key airbase in Syria.
QUOTE(thpace @ May 24 2016, 09:42 PM)
It something started from mahathir time

Somehow it blown out of proportion till everything is anti israel. A same however when we can get alot of goodies if we budy budy with them like jordon
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Yeah, a lot of EU joint developed equipment would become available, can buy factory models without need to fit custom equipment and drive up costs, can get Spike, electronics, imagine Barak missiles for ships, bombs...

sigh now Russia kena ban, China not our friend, where to buy cheap weapons? Back to Pakistan? But Soviet ATGM best ATGM... sad.gif
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post May 25 2016, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ May 24 2016, 11:35 PM)
agree,
ready product than B737 Wedgetail also ok. still also not cheap.
if 2 unit than only can station one side either east or west malaysia.
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need at least 4 to maintain a single 24/7 station.
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post May 25 2016, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ May 25 2016, 07:02 AM)
Russia rejects reports of Russian combat helicopters destroyed in Syria

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could be the Syrian Mi-8s and Mi-17s stationed there
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post May 26 2016, 03:32 AM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ May 25 2016, 05:36 PM)
we dun boikot simply becos they are juice la. malaysia isnt that childish

case study; (snip)

kesimpulannya, israel need to go back to 1948 border (or at least 1967)and b4 we can tok kok. that's the gomen policy
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1. but whenever need to bangkit rakyat, politikus just need to talk about fantasy israeli funding/naval bases... as if the israelis have a single ship capable of blue water ops laugh.gif

2. either 1948 or 1967 border is impossible for pretty good reasons IMO. but anyway... politics.

3. point is that Turkey also does trade with Israel, being truly neutral in most such EU/Arab matters. To be honest our govt just want to score cheap muslim points

QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ May 25 2016, 06:37 PM)
Does export models have the same armor?
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nope. depleted uranium armor will never go out of US hands. Saudi model does reach M1A2 standard but minus DU, ERA, TUSK (anti RPG) upgrades whereas the even more upgraded M1A2 (SEP) v2 is the one considered deployment quality for US brows.gif

Anyway no one ever said M1 Abrams is invincible, internet fanboyz overreacting again and sputnik decide to tambah minyak propa. The Arab armies don't deploy their tanks well and have a bad habit of running away from disabled tanks whereas Western doctrine is to button up and keep fighting, that's why there are so many disabled tanks.

I don't know what's the count in Yemen but 130+ tanks lost seems a bit exaggerated, Iraq only 9 were lost (and subsequently destroyed)

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post May 26 2016, 04:20 AM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ May 25 2016, 04:04 PM)
It's not really hard to mount aew on atr-72. In fact, it was done on smaller aicraft
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Yeah, but performance take a major hit. ATR-72 ASW has a flight endurance of 9 hours, that is 2 hours transit then able to loiter on station 7 hours or conduct a 2 hours patrol sweep at 5000ft. AEW equipment is a lot heavier and would be even worse. Also, flight ceiling 25,000 ft is a bit low, the higher you go the farther you see.

Compare E-2 Hawkeye: 10,000+ kg heavier, double the engine shp, flight ceiling 35,000 ft, but still only achieve flight endurance 6 hours, loiter on station 4 hours+. Not sure civilian conversion can beat that.

Case study of another civilian conversion: Global 6000 business jet, overpowered long haul jet with 13 hours flight endurance originally. Saab offer the Globaleye AEW package which potong the total endurance to only 9 hours. Heavy!

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post May 26 2016, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ May 26 2016, 11:58 AM)
In US Army, enlisted soldiers' risk of suicide attempts varies over time

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That looks like a backpack ECM. Their personal ECM rigs are pretty hush hush, can't find info online.

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