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post Apr 24 2016, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Apr 24 2016, 05:52 PM)
I don't think this armor arrangement will cause shot trap...The protruding parts are ERA, when hit by APFSDS, it will explode outward, dampening the energy of the sabot.

So, the projectile won't ricochet downward....
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Somehow I don't feel very safe seeing that the ERA panel will explode downwards into the hull of the tank as well... laugh.gif anyway NATO now is all about top attack missile

welp, if you believe these popular articles
Russia > all
all > F35
no need tokok so much just bow to Putin

edit: nice pics of TLDM, is that a 4-barrel ASW mortar I see on the 2nd pic?

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post Apr 24 2016, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Apr 24 2016, 06:14 PM)
Aspide missile

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Ah I see, nice. Is it me or did the missile launcher change to be more rounder? I seem to remember when I went to see KD Hang Nadim it was square shaped like the old US ASROC launchers.
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post Apr 25 2016, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Apr 25 2016, 07:34 AM)
Did a Ukrainian fighter jet shoot down MH17? BBC documentary claims Boeing 777 may have been targeted by another plane

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Kremlin bullshit
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post Apr 25 2016, 08:15 PM

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now for something completely different
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Descendants of the Sun, Singkie NSmen edition
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post Apr 26 2016, 03:40 PM

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Arms trade has always been a major money maker for France, and they really need it now. Australia is really putting its money where its mouth is. Does it really see a threat from China?
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post Apr 26 2016, 11:34 PM

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Concept art for Shortfin Barracuda 1A

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too bad no interior sketches yet
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post Apr 28 2016, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Apr 28 2016, 09:22 PM)
other.... is most probably the master... unker sam.. there's a distrust of muslim nations

peenoise in for another slaughter?  mega_shok.gif
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Don't flatter yourself singkie, they distrust all their neighbours generally.

QUOTE(waja2000 @ Apr 28 2016, 10:12 AM)
Maybe can discuss in Asean for large scale Military action to entire Sulu and south Philippine for solve all problem at one time. other US,OZ, CN,Canada, UK can be assist in technical aspect.  or small involve like providee LHD. hospital ship.
combine 50,000-70,000 army, 150 tanks,100+ AFV, SPH, assist by 50 warship, LPD, Attack helicopter,figther, UAV, satellite ,multi type smart bomb  laugh.gif


just dream....  rolleyes.gif
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dream indeed, even FPDA is downgraded to observing and training basically let alone something that far beyond its scope... expect to wait till minimum 2025 for UK's land forces to get reorganised and around the same time for them to get a carrier fully operational too... minimum.
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post Apr 28 2016, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Apr 28 2016, 10:58 PM)
is that what your tree brain is telling you?


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You may be right. We'll know when Pinoys start asking Vietcongs and Singkies for help. Until then, it seems they are only willing to talk to US or faraway countries like Japan.
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post Apr 29 2016, 03:46 AM

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Interesting article on USS Zumwalt, excerpts below.
Full article at http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense-n...avsea/82456618/

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At Sea Aboard the Zumwalt

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Unusually for a ship on builder’s trials, the civilians were joined by about 130 members of the destroyer’s US Navy crew, on board to get their first chance to sit down and operate the ship that later this year they will call home.

 This was the third night out for the Zumwalt on its second seriesof builder’s sea trials, the first “alpha” trials having been carried out in early December. The ship, which will eventually go to sea with a crew of 147, was carrying 388 souls, one of the highest numbers Zumwalt likely will ever carry during a planned service life of about 40 years.

 The only objects protruding above the flat foredeck are the huge enclosures for the two 155mm guns of the advanced gun system (AGS), the largest naval guns installed as standard equipment to go to sea in decades. Ranged along the sides of the ship on the foredeck and along the flight deck aft are 80 missile cells in a new arrangement intended to use the blast shields of the cells to protect the ship, and keep the centerline free for the gun system. No railings or lifelines are visible, although stanchions can be rigged manually when in port. Those venturing out on deck must latch on to a safety line.

 “The first trial we were out about a week, this time Monday to Thursday,” said Capt. James Downey, program manager for NAVSEA’s PMS 500 office which oversees the DDG 1000 program. He spoke March 23, the ship’s third night out. “The real point is to demonstrate those systems the same way we will do it for acceptance trials. This is a dress rehearsal for that, and to grade ourselves. We’ll collect all the data and go back and debrief and see how we did.”

Downey felt good about the Zumwalt’s stealth qualities. “I’m not worried about the RCS whatsoever,” he declared. “It’s looking good. It’s looking too good.” Despite his engineer’s caution, Downey was upbeat about the trials. “So far we haven’t had any failures — no equipment failures, no demonstration failures.”

Those on board reported the first two days of the trials were held in relatively rough weather, but the Zumwalt’s unusual, tumblehome hull performed as expected.

“The ship handled well. It’s been an exceptionally stable platform. It handled very well,” said US Navy Capt. James Kirk, who will become the Zumwalt’s first commanding officer.

During the trials, the twin rudders were put hard over at 30 knots. Kirk was impressed. “I would have thought the ship would have significantly more heel” during such a turn, he said. “It was only about a 7- to 8-degree heel.”

The Bridge
Situated on the O-2 level, or the second level of the superstructure, the bridge is a large space that will have only three regular watch standers. Two positions are adjacent at the center, one for the junior officer of the watch (JOOW) and another for the junior officer of the deck (JOOD). The officer of the deck (OOD) has no seat, but is expected to stand and move about. The three positions will be filled by officers, not enlisted sailors. Manual machinery controls are between the two seated watch standers, while control and computer panels are provided for each position. The ship can be steered by autopilot, keyboard or mouse instructions or by rotating a small black knob that serves as the ship’s wheel.

Ship Mission Center
The ship’s nerve center is a huge command and control space two decks high, projecting from the steel-enclosed O-2 level into the O-3 level at the base of the composite superstructure that surmounts the ship. Three large flat-panel displays dominate thefront of the room where 19 watch standers man console stationsin four rows. The general layout of the consoles is somewhat similar to the latest Aegis Baseline 9 with similar user stations and common displays, although in a much larger space. The firstand second rows handle weapons, including missiles, guns and anti-submarine and electronic warfare. Command and control positions occupy the third row, including seats for the commanding officer, tactical action officer and the engineering officer of the watch. Propulsion, engineering and information technology support personnel man the fourth row consoles.

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(Aegis Baseline 9 layout)

Above and at the back of the SMC is a large, glassed-in second deck provided for mission planners, intelligence personnel or command staffs. There, they can function without disturbing the watch standers below while viewing the same common displays. Port and starboard of the SMC are additional enclosed spaces with more consoles and large panels to allow for specific mission planning or operations.

Below Decks
Down in the hull, a prominent feature is “Broadway,” a very large main-deck passageway running along the starboard side allowing ammunition and supplies to easily be moved to storageareas and magazines. The P-way, big enough for forklifts to drivethrough, is similar to those on the last generation of US battleships, which used the same descriptive term.

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Amidships on the second deck are the mess areas. The wardroom for officers, goat locker for the chief petty officers, andmess for the crew are all served by the same, all-electric galley.

The two main machinery spaces each feature a power plant consisting of an advanced induction motor (AIM) and an MT-30 Rolls-Royce gas turbine together producing 39 megawatts, for a total output of 78 megawatts. Each AIM is directly connected to one of the ship’s two propeller shafts, eliminating the need for reduction gear. The machinery spaces are designed to be remotely operated.

 Aft, a secondary ship’s mission center (SSMC) is installed on theport side. On a smaller scale than the large ship mission center, the SSMC is able to handle the same ship control functions as the SMC or the bridge and will function as the ship’s damage control center.

All the way aft is a large boat bay, big enough to store two 11-meter rigid-hull inflatable boats (RHIBs) one in front of the other. The RHIBs are on rails, and launch and recover on a titanium cradle that rises and tilts to connect with a heavy-duty rubber extendable ramp running through stern doors in the Zumwalt’s wide, flat transom. Nearby, berthing racks are installed for a 14-member special operations team, along with space for their weapons and gear.

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Hangar and Flight Deck
No nets ring the flight deck, which instead features personal safety barriers. The PSBs reduce the ship’s signature and are automatic, unlike nets fitted on destroyers and cruisers which need to be raised and lowered by sailors. On the Zumwalt, the PSBs will rise as soon as a landing helicopter is trapped by the Aircraft Ship Integrated Secure and Traverse (ASIST) helicopter recovery and handling system. The ASIST latches on to the helo and moves it into the ship’s large hangar, which is fitted with a new, two-piece solid door that could be a prototype to replace doors on other ships.


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post Apr 29 2016, 11:49 AM

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did not know we have so many ships... expected better of channel news asia, come on doh.gif

QUOTE(miuk @ Apr 29 2016, 06:53 AM)
When ASEAN cant even come up with a unified position against the Chinese intrusion in to the SEA area, you can forget a unified armed approach.

And like someone said, who's going to pay for it  blink.gif

War isnt cheap. Ammo cost about RM1.20 per 556 ball. RM2 for 762. Fighter jets from US reports, easily $20k per hour combat flying. Smart bombs? Hellfire missile costs anywhere between $65k-$140k. Air tanker gas for aerial refueling easily another $30-40 per gallon of JP-8.
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and then we went and slapped a .50 cal minigun on the Blackhawks laugh.gif how much is that per round?


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post Apr 29 2016, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Apr 29 2016, 03:54 PM)
That's a ridiculous fictionalized K-drama. Go overseas still got time for romance-romance. Reality is around 120% worse for servicemen.

Also, you fight for your country's interest, not a leader's interest (similar, but not the same). You go where they tell you to.
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boys, boys... the military is not the story, the romance is laugh.gif
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post Apr 30 2016, 01:50 AM

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Israel has the Torah, Talmud and cultural practices unique to the Jewish people. In Singapore, the equivalent is a colonial inheritance of institutions alongside a patchwork of immigrant ethno-religious practices mixed in a melting pot

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Apr 30 2016, 10:23 PM)
fishermen?
try fierce ugly looking pirate with conceal weapons, police rhib suspected them and they turned away.
Police chase and positivi that their are pirate and them they run for the border

soon after they at the border, they hold up their rifle shows to the police and run in circle while gesturing a "fuck you PDRM" I am now in pinoy border and you can do nothing  cool2.gif
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QUOTE(noviyola @ Apr 30 2016, 10:21 PM)
I thought girls love big muscles. See The Descendant of the Sun even a doctor want to marry a soldier. why do people want to become soldiers? To kill is a sin liao. low pay, no girls, no vacation, sweat, tiring, sins, whoa so pitiful.
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manada, Descendants also the girl went for the skinniest prettiest one laugh.gif
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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ May 1 2016, 06:18 PM)
Europe's First Islamic Constitution? What Could Possibly Go Wrong?

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while on /k there are those who want to protek great Islamic nation Turkey... heh laugh.gif
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post May 2 2016, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 2 2016, 07:46 AM)
I doubt f35 is a proper aircraft to replace A10.
Going into hot battlefield, hunt enemy tank and awesome vlose air support.
I doubt not many aircraft as capable as a10 and su25.
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A10 frankly is doing best as an oversized COIN jet and originally in early 1980s was conceptualised as such. Only when fear of the "Red tank horde" sprang up did people start hanging ATGMs on any platform that could take it. The A10's famous 30mm Gatling has proven unable to score confirmed kills on Russian T-80s or even 64s/72s unless from side/rear attack angles... this info can be found in A10 tactical manuals.

F35 was never meant to be a dogfighter, it was first conceived as the Joint Strike Fighter. Arguably its the 'failure' of the Raptor program to produce a cost-effective jet that has led to the F35 problem as it attempted to be an air superiority fighter as well which was not its primary intent.

The critics are basically playing both sides of the game, saying the US Army needs to prepare to fight conventional war not counter-insurgency but insisting the US Air Force keep their A10s over F35s... but with the huge number of SAMs, MANPADs and AAA proliferating the A10 may well be outgunned in a conventional war. F35 might just prove to be the better choice here.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 2 2016, 09:31 PM)
The problem is both have different role.
How can f35 able to replace a10 role when it was not design to do what a10 was doing.
They try to retire a10 for a very long time but every time they failed to do so and there is a reason to it. laugh.gif
for f35 to do a10 job is asking the bird to be shoot down.
To use a10 they always does SEAD destroying most of the main anti air threat.
If wanna replace a10 at least replace with a proper aircraft and really capable of doing a10 role.
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Idea is to use the F35 for SEAD much like Raptor is forced to do now. Main problem is F35 itself is not operational yet and neither is its special weapon, the SDB, but it can still carry JSOW, JDAM etc.

As far as roles go, nothing is doing what it is claimed laugh.gif
What A10 is doing is COIN CAS, it might have been a conventional tank hunter in 1990 but it won't survive in 2016, and it definitely can't do SEAD. The airframe is not so much configured to avoid hits but to tank damage, doubtful if it can still survive against modern SAMs.

What F35 was supposed to do is hunt tanks and do SEAD, but its being forced to make up for lack of F22s to kill jets, is being unfairly compared with the A10 and of course is not operational yet.

Currently the thought is to use F35/A10 pairs to hunt tanks and F35/F18E pairs to kill jets, while waiting for the next A-X and F-X programs.

Ideally of course there'd be lots of each; A10s to be COIN bomb trucks, F35s to hunt tanks and do SEAD, and F22s to kill jets, but there's not enough money so pick 2 out of 3....
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QUOTE(marfccy @ May 2 2016, 11:05 PM)
lol and this reminds me of a friend who scoffed at me at saying the 30mm GAU cannot kill modern MBTs.

said that the depleted uranium round + high calibre is more than enough to pierce through
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All depends on the angle. Side and rear has much lighter protection than the front, like barely anything, even 25mm Bushmaster has killed M1A1 engine when hit from behind. T90 turret top armour with Kontakt-5 is kind of 50/50, rated at 300mm to even 500mm protection. GAU-8 30mm is rated at about 200mm RHA penetration, say 300mm for DU? So with a strafing run at a favourable angle, you hope to hit the hull rear top or sides to blow the engine or hopefully ignite something combustible. The A10's GAU/8 is not really the tank chainsaw its claimed to be, I think its much more useful as a Maverick bomb truck.

The trouble with relying on the A10 though is that its old and the Russians are certainly aware of it and have thought up ways since 1990 to deal with it, ie investing heavily in modern MANPADs and SHORADs like the Tunguska:
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post May 3 2016, 02:29 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 3 2016, 01:29 AM)
They will regret it.
Not like they never learn the down time of apache in the last few operation having relying on viper and a10.
Lol I did not said a10 going to do sead.
Those sead operation it done by a combination of f18g and cruise missile.
F35 aint effective tank hunter and it will be expensive as well.
It can't stay on the battlefield too long as well.
As for sam it was supposed to be taken care before deploying most of their air units into the areas.
Heck they would not even sent f35 any where near within 100km range of an SAM.
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Yeah F35 may be wasted on tank hunting after all. But that is what's available, along with good ol' F16Cs and F15Es, so just take it and the stealth and be happy I guess.

F18G is a USN-only platform for now, F35A is to be the new EA fighter for USAF, taking the load off F22. Apparently the F35 has some built-in jammers and the answer to S300/S400 is said to be the JASSM/F35 combo.

at the end, I won't say F35 is not a mashup of compromises, but its not exactly toothless either. What I really wonder is how the smaller air forces like UK RAF will deal with the F35 problem. They better not put Typhoon away so fast......
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QUOTE(patt_sue @ May 4 2016, 01:40 PM)
The headline is different than the content..

The headline saying that rmn' submarine will joint the exercise, whereby the content states that only mega bakti will involved
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ May 4 2016, 01:28 PM)
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RMN plan
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That's nice, but what I'd like to know is when we're getting any of this stuff... whistling.gif
QUOTE(thpace @ May 4 2016, 06:52 PM)
Hummer is considered a light vehcile

This is a toyota without even a balistic glass to withstand a 9mm
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So-called "theater entry" Humvees are a lot different from the original Humvee, which has canvas doors or no doors at all.
QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ May 4 2016, 05:59 PM)
more like someone told him how they intend to employ A10s at sea... sigh WIB is really trash nowadays

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