Anyone here deal with Mohd Haider & Co before? Staff by the name Chua, to be specific.

I was introduce by my agent to engage with them, all document sign and submitted, loan approved and all now is waiting for the thing to be complete. My problem is I been waiting since April last year. Each time I call no pick up, even he pick up my call, he will said give him time. Even I go to his office in Bangsar south, he dare to tell me, you got no appointment with me and I got time to see you. I almost want to vomit blood. There is one time, made appointment with him, double confirmed again the day before and I reach there, office was close, no one working and call and call, waited for 2 hour and to my surprise I am not the only one got appointment with him, there is another couple waiting for him. Till the next working day, I called him, he dare to said “ I forgot and I went for medical check- up and switch off my phone”. Recently I went to the office and yes without appointment and he also refuse to see me, the only different this time is Mohd Haidar is there too, and the boss also is not much of help, seem that working with him would be stress free. According to Haidar, he will help me to pressure him to finish my case, but already two month also nothing happen. Even the owner side also having the same problem and we are sharing the same “idiots” in the same firm.

So I am wondering which department I can file complain with? Or what else can I do beside waiting?

thanks in advance...

is this the legal firm you are referring to?

apparently, your "Chua" isn't a legal associate there so i guess he/she may just be a clerk or even a chambering student.

anyway, to better understand your matter before advising you to start raining hell on the relevant parties, may i know what transaction that you have engaged them?

Sub-sale transaction or Direct Developer? If it is a sub-sale, what is the nature of the property, leasehold?

YES. this is the firm.

the unit is frm D'Rimba apartment in Kota Damansara. is a bumi lot.
i already obtain the letter frm the PKNS since Oct tat confirm the unit is converted to non bumi status. and the owner will pay the penalty. and my loan office been chasing Chua to get the document in order for them to release the loan. for owner side, is he is a government servant and the loan is from the government. all i know is his side is waiting for the redemption notice. this is the only information i have.

I see, it is a sub-sale transaction then.

You said your "loan office" has been chasing Chua so that your financier can disburse the loan. I need to clarify which stage is this. Is it 1) Chua has not prepared the loan documents for you to execute or 2) you have executed the loan documents but Chua has not advise your financier to disburse the loan. Which?

If it's pending for the owner's financier's redemption statement from Bahagian Pinjaman Perumahan (BPP) then when did Chua sent their request for the statement?

At this juncture, rather than thinking of lodging a complaint against them and making things difficult for them which may cause further delay to your transaction, i'd do something more pro-active. Go up to the firm and request to see your physical file, go through the correspondences and see what causes the delay. Was is because of BPP or was it due because of something else.

You can lodge a complaint against the said advocate and solicitor to the Bar Council for professional misconduct pursuant to section 94 of the LPa 1976.

BPP is now LPSA.
i agree on above steps.

Another step to add :
Ask the seller to walk in to LPPSA (dont call!) To ask about the status.have they fwd the redemption letter to Chua?

When u go to Chua/Haidar insist them to show u, ur file. Have they write to BPP (LPPSA) to request for redemption statement? If yes, they must be a received date stamp . When is the date - give the info to seller so he can push BPP

* note : i assume u already got developrler confirmation letter from developer. So now ur 3 mobths start counting

This post has been edited by oxm8: Feb 21 2016, 06:20 PM

sounds like some third class law firm that hired third class graduates.

I don't think this has anything to do with what class the solicitors graduated with. It all boils down to the character of that particular individual.

Some people just are just lazy by nature.

attitude problem

TS, you might want to consider using the power of social media.

contact your lawyer to pressure them

Just meet up with a new Mohd Haidar staff, her name is Lina, and she will be taking over backlog case like mine. and they will have a "open house" every sunday, to liaise and deal with all the backlog case customer.
The catch is, if Chua pass the backlog case to her, then only she can start her work. she promise she will get it frm him by this week. but i really doubt abot it. according to her, i need to wait another 3 month frm the day chua pass her, my case. haiz!!! need to wait again!!!!
to whoever have backlog case with Mohd Haidar & co. u can go in on Sunday - 2PM ONWARD and check ur case. opening time, i am not sure yet. and update i will let u guys know!!

@yiwei90

This post has been edited by Matthewksexy: Mar 18 2016, 08:45 AM

hi..i'm mad with their service, they working attitude are not responsible, my sister bought the apartment 8 months ago until now haven got the house key and bank has released the loan 1 months ago. I have been asking and the firm where is the house key and the feedback was Mohd Haider & Co got the penalty from the previous house owner's lawyer and Haider Co refuse to pay the penatly fee, what should i do ??

This post has been edited by ichigopan: Mar 21 2016, 03:51 PM

why was the penalty imposed? how much was it? did you not ask all these questions?


anyway pay the penalty, get the keys in your hands
then file a complaint with the legal bureau and claim the penalty back from mohd haider if its their fault the
penalty was charged.

I think the penalty is due to delay in mohd haidar xtra slow working attitude. i believe they wont dare to impose the penalty on the buyer. if they really do tat then buyer can file a official complaint to the relevant dept.

all we can do now is for giving our trust to tat damn Chua....

This is usually the clerk/chambering student's problem. You can pressure this Chua by calling directly to the lawyers of the firm, and explain your situation to them and then get them to rectify the problem you're facing (rather than asking Chua for help).

Clerks/Chambering students don't have the same weigt/liabilities as lawyers do in their business world.

If u want the Mohd Haidar, hp num, i also got. if u want, u can pm me....but i can tell u, he not much of help into chua issue, he cant control chua...

Tuan/Puan,
Saya antara client yang 'terkena' dengan Chua. Boleh kita bincang lebih lanjut?

Hi, according to the said matter...i've informed that chua is not a lawyer /chambering,..he is a manager whom administrate the firm...poor to dr haidar as he got the unqualified manager...ina also not a new staff...she was 2 yrs at that firm...my frenz bought the property from the agent and they intoduced the said firm to him.. this is not the 1st time he bought the property under sub sale...but it was 1st experience dealing with this firm...and they took more than 1 year to settle it...from promise to promise the matter stilll delayed...they havent pickup the phone....they wont attend without an appoinment...poor attitude...chua wont never answer the phone...passed to the staff and the staff will jotdown the massage and the same repeated so many times....status?u wont get it from them even a single copy of spa..correspondances????jut forget it..never never n never ...they dont give u a copy and when us ask to look in to the file..so many reason would be given to u.....not suprised so many client came to thier office and get mad againts chua...so many drama from mohd haidar staff until we got info from other client ..dr haidar was salary partner..thats why he cant control n take action on chua...cannot trust on them...they a liar...so many complain at bar council eventho the disciplinary of board has been lodged againts the firm and chua as said by other client....they dont trust chua...poor to other client whom dealing with this firm....cant blaim the firm and dr haidar but it was mistakes from chua....chua is the one whom created the problem and he dont actually tried to settled down but keepp lying people....seat on the file againt againt and againt.. the staff whom attend for the badlock file also under chua instruction..nothing much they can help client....same attitude and controlled by chua.....

As i understand Chua himself is in trouble.. there is police report against him. he is in deeep deep shit!!!

https://www.facebook.com/mohdhaidarnco/reviews

Hi, did u manage to resolve your case? My case is 1 year pending. And currently still goin on. Chua is deep shit i heard that also.

I think is time for all his customer to gather at bar council to fail official complaint toward mohd haida & co... one two complaint, they might be overlook, but when huge group, they could not push aside.

Agreed! im actually approaching a lawyer of my own already, at Solaris. Gonna meet them this Thursday to get advice on next course of action against that stupid firm. Did u read in their FB? May to June Haidar will be away? Can simply go when u have unsettled business? bloody hell.

same problem too, really don't know what can do right now? even complaint also don't know can get any respond or not. but may i ask you already complaint to bar council? or they overlook?

the other lawyer, they advice me to complaint to bar council.

i belum go the the bar council yet. bz with work. but took long leave at the long month end holiday will go on 2 May.
i am wonder wat document needed to bring for me to file the complaint, cant make multiple trip. if anyone already file complaint, plz share ur info here...

I also hvnt complaint and make the document. May i ask when u go on sunday, they allow u to see the document? anything found out during meet on sunday? like can know what is the status? hv u see the files?

I didnt go to the office on sunday b4. bz with family stuff. maybe i will try go this weekend if possible. look for lina, she is the one tat handle all back log case.

i have a copy of the police report tat been file toward Chua. dont know izzit ok to show it here or not. u dont know is the report is genuine or not. but u will be surprise as to who is the one tat file the report.

we hv the saw the police report too, we wish to go on this sunday, so thinking whether will they entertain as call d lawyer or even to the firm also cant get any status. when u go previously are they entertain u and got show u ur case file?

they came and find me. and show me a chart of timeline, how many week for this and for that. estimate by june 2016, everything would be complete.

anyway, i received info tat the property, the strata title is out. i believe tat would be fee occur, who shall bare the cost, as i dont full own the unit yet, and owner said earlier he wont bare any additional cost that occur during this waiting for idiot chua period.

This post has been edited by Matthewksexy: Apr 21 2016, 02:48 PM

Mine also having same problem with Chua. Never pickup the phone. Waiting almost one year for a simple case. Now I been informed that my case was pass to Ina. I call the office also nobody pick up.

Yes you have to but they will take longg time

I am going to the office next week as soon as i can. Will update what i hear after that. In the meantime if anyone want a civil lawyer i can share with you the firm i went to. Theyre the one that is advising me on my steps. If you really want can PM me. too public to post it here. Scared got spy from Mohd Haidar & Co.
So troublesome!!!!!
for time being i even have to stay at my in laws house! shame only...
STRESSSSSSSSSS

Im at their office. Latest update i asked them and found out that Chua has been transferred to a different department! They said wanted to gey back to me Friday, i told them i cannot wait. Im going to Bar Council today. Then they said by Wednesday will call me back.

oh i know which dept, he is now, jabatan penjara negara (A honorable tenent) .... how big is tat office. tukar dept..

This post has been edited by Matthewksexy: Apr 25 2016, 12:50 PM

I will go to Bar Council soon.
Again, I am unable to call up Mr Chua.

My current progress is loan step.

What my current step is I wish to get a S&P for third party firm for bank.

But again, I am fail to call him up.

STRESS...............................

This post has been edited by yiwei90: Apr 25 2016, 04:28 PM

Hahahaha i dont know how big. The waiting area is small only. But i pushed them to tell me and was informed he is transferred to sales dept... I dunno how lawyer got sales one hahahahaha.

If you want to go Bar Council make sure you fill up the form before going, because needa to be stampped by commissioner of oath. And need you to type a letter also. 3 copies of each. And 1 Ic photostat.

I am one of the vendor. up to this date yet to receive my balance purchase price though my purchaser informed me that her bank have disbursed the loan sum on 8.04.2016. Contemplating to lodge police report and report to the Bar Council within this week and most probably a suit by next week. Those who is interested, i am going to see a lawyer next Tuesday the 3rd. Maybe we can make a joint report and class action against the firm.

Sales dept somemore, meaning more people will kena con by him again!!!

Dear all my frens,

Pls lodge ur own police report for Chua.
His full name is Chua Jeam Datt.
All police reports will be investigated by Balai Polis Pantai.
Just do ur own police report to protect yourself.
Mine have given the house key to buyer without any black and white.
Advise given by Chua. (buyer now a tenant) without paying any rental.
Chua the one which pay the rental for tenant.

Pls call Haidar because he now want to know who been Chua's victim.

meaning we need to go to balai polis pantai, there to file the report.



This post has been edited by Matthewksexy: Apr 26 2016, 09:48 AM

Boleh ke mana2 balai polis berdekatan.
Mereka akan hantar report ke balai yang berdekatan dengan tempat kejadian.

The report then u can bring to Bar Council.
That's it.

OK.. will discuss with my partner 1st.

I feel for u all, I have encountered the similar stuff with some other lawyers as well.

Changed a few lawyers. Teh current lawyer i using so far very satisfactory.

If any of you want that lawyer in future dealings i can recommend.

This post has been edited by VOOSH: Apr 27 2016, 02:51 PM

I just called Bar Council.
They received already complaint from client about Mohd Haidar & Co.
Pls call 03-20341911 (Displinary Board).

Received complaint, but when they will take action.

is everyone guess

I received the email frm haidar last week. meaning i am abot to get my key to my house rite??
My bank with release the loan,

my friend also sharing in our telegram group his issue with haidar & co. guess future better avoid this lawyer

Good...hopefully...they kept thier word to hand over the key matthew...n please look into the file..the evidence whether all the transaction has been done..change of name etc....i worried they hand over the key without completion of docs...then u will trouble againts...



Hey guys..why dont we take an action..... we make it a deal and then go to mca, mic, ummo or TV3 and complain bout it...sometimes when a media involved, the related agency will take an action....

Any ideasssssss

Agreed with u Patriciawong. This happen to me. Chua arrange to hand over the key to buyer without any black and white..just said 'sewa'. Finished one part to Chua..but never for seller..rental not paid..must go to Chua's office fight with him! Stupid!

For real... i am thinking the jump suit will look good on him. but got picture tak?

Trust me, dealing with Chua and Haidar is whole new level. Only those who deals with them able to understand it.

Call media to help us!
Nobody can help us if no action from Haidar.
Stupid lawyer!
No brain!

Are you a victim too?
I have hired a new lawyer to assist me, way better and professional.
My current lawyer advised me to lodge complaint regarding the matter to Bar Council.
URL: http://www.asdb.org.my/procedure/

I am in the midst of preparing complaint letter and will submit by next week.

Hi Matthew,
Here is the procedure to file in to Bar Council Disciplinary board: http://www.asdb.org.my/procedure/

I will file in complaint letter by next week. Kena from Chua too.
Really feel what you are going through.

Wow... manyak thing need to look into it.
by the way, if we file complaint and they tutup kedai already, all our case how ah??


anyone got any idea??

Any good news friends?
Ada sesiapa yg dah settle kes?

so sad... lina MIA already maybe also went to 14th floor!!

u went there?

I'm thinking go to PPIM buat aduan.
Let's ..

I just liaised with his staff...sorry to say but dr haidar also no power to take and action...for those whom be a victim...deal n call media and go to their office..maybe one of u can create whatsap group....

Lina or Haidar also won't be able to assist. All stuck with Chua.
Tried followup with Lina and she also avoiding to answer calls. haih..
Called Haidar, he will tell to call back later.

Haidar must be responsible for all these.
I hate to say his name!

Have anyone complain to Bar Council yet?

This post has been edited by loverboy110: May 12 2016, 11:00 AM

what action did bar council take against that law firm?

I have no idea about that.
Who want to follow to PPIM?

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look like haidar got one new partner, Ahmad - 016 5439764. he seem to be the smart guy.. call him

Please make a complaint to the Bar Council. Anyone who hasn't, please do so. All the process and procedures are on the Bar Council website which you can do yourself or get a a lawyer to assist. Yes the complaint will take sometime to process but it's better than nothing.

Otherwise, you can also get a lawyer to sue them for breach of duty/negligence.

All lawyers has Professional Indemnity Insurance so even if the firm closes down, you can still try to get the insurers to settle the claim but you must take action. No action means no recovery.

All the best!

I have already made report to Bar council about 1 and a half months ago. Also made police report at Bangsar. However Haidar also smart because he already make a cover report for himself.

If required i got contact for Metro newspaper, they will love things like this.
Also someone mentioned something about PPIM? i heard theyre quite fast and good... any ideas on how to approach it with them?

Its weird that if Chua did take the money etc... how come he is still working like nothing is happening in the firm? Very wierd and fishy.

I made report to Bar Council too. They requested me to follow up with them on 3rd week of June.

Ha you managed to contact PPIM? Whast the feedback can u share please?

Im going to call them later to find out my update

iinm PPIM if want them to help need to pay them some fee. its not entirely free, or depends on case basis

Ohhh i see... that case better go Metro newspaper make it a big deal so that it becomes FOC.

Oh okay, got any feedback from Bar Council?

https://www.facebook.com/abuyusufimran/post...891?pnref=story

apa dia cakap ni?? dont understand!!! as i know, kita bayar dia to do work kan. bukan kerja free untuk kita.
if berani, cakap dia buat kerja free, then i shut up and wait je!!!

Mereka buat hal dan cuba jual kepada buyer lain pula.
itu yang saya kena.
Terus tukar lawyer.
jangan bayar satu sen pun kpd mereka.

wat u mean by they to sell to other. u sign the agreement already rite??

Saw this comment in the law firm's FB page.


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i once intro to this firm by bank. everything approve but he refuse to proceed. so i call someone at bank (manager level) and tell the truth and demand changing lawyer. if u never pay anythig, u should change to other firm. chua is a bad person.

Urs is same case as mine. Can you PM me

Bar council will bring the matter for discussion on 3rd week of June. Will call them for an update after that.

Found this to be fishy...

https://www.facebook.com/mhcestate/info/?tab=page_info

http://mhcestate.blogspot.sg/

they also have property agents? could be true theyre platying with the SnP etc...

Exactly the same for my issue. Bar council requested me to contact them on 3rd week of June.

The waiting is really slowly killing inside hahaha. Hope we get good news after this!

That firm named itself is not convincing hehe

Contributing my experience with this firm.

I was supposed to collect a cheque from selling a house through this firm. Things was supposed to settle in April. I have been calling for so many times, and it all depends on luck, if you're the chosen one and lucky enough, it would be answered. That one time I was lucky, call was picked up and I was then given a date in May by them, telling all would be settled by then. That day then came, no call from them, no update at all. Fine, I tried to call then. After days of calling, then only it was picked up and I was told that the person in charge was away and would only be back the week after. I would be contacted by them to settle the cheque. Still, no call and update at all. One time I heard the phone was picked up, few seconds later it was hung up on purpose - tired of me spamming them with calls. Well what do you expect Mohd Haidar & Co? People call you because they want answers!

I then decided to go to the office last week after no answered call and update, to ask for it directly. Before this, my agent has come to help me for this twice, and the cheque still wasn't given. The day I went, thankfully the cheque was issued and together with me were 2 other clients. All seems happy because things seems to be finally settled after months of dealing with them. The cheque given to me was post-dated by a week though, but I don't want to bother as much, as long as things are settled. While waiting for the cheque, the lawyer was happily informing on how they are about to expand their business, talking about the new part of the company as mentioned above etc etc, just to fill in the gap of waiting. Anyway, so then I thought this is it, no more need of dealing things with them. Just gonna wait for the date to deposit the cheque and all done.

Lo and behold, I recently received a call, I was asked to deposit the cheque much much more later, after 28 June 2016. Reason given - "we don't have enough money in our account balance right now."

There I was speechless, listening in utter disbelief. Guess I was too mad and disappointed, I just say OK. I figured that there's no point then, even if I deposit it, the cheque might not be cleared anyway. Then after some time I tried to call the firm again, to confirm the date, whether is this really gonna be the final one, and you got it right, as usual, no answer. I am frustrated beyond words at this point. Dealing with this Mohd Haidar & Co firm, its all like a joke for them.

If they have been postponing date of payment tonnes of time before, what are the chances of its being real - me getting the money end of this month?
They do things as they wish, bending things here and there as they like, not respecting others at all. My agent has confirmed that at the bank's end, things are already settled long ago. The money is already with them, and my best bet is its on roll.

So now I'm back on waiting, don't know what to believe anymore when it comes to this firm. My friend advise me to go to the police, but I don't know the procedure on this such of case. Anyone with experience how?

Thanks in advance.

i keep wondering do anyone completed a case with them or not?

I can relate my experience with what you went & going through. I was in the same shoe, dealing with this firm is sickening experience, seriously no one else should go through it.
Fortunately, 90% of my issue has been settle but with lots of mental torture.

You might want to consider filing the complain to Bar Council: http://www.asdb.org.my/procedure/

i made a police report already. But the IO just said they will look into it and never seemed to call back. Im waiting for bar council to have their meeting and answer by next week. Upon receiving their answer i will follow up with the police. Until then just wait lah... what else to do. No money still can expand their business?? bloody hell... its our money being used to expand their business!

Yeap, i was too informed by Bar Council to check status next week.

Scary.

Update... i called Bar council. They say my case postpone to next month! did any of you other guys manage to get through?

Hi may I know is your case solved or not yet? Finally My case has been solved 1month ago.And that is because of we are pushing this firm.Pushing chuah and also haidar.Yes Chuah is a piece of shit. He always avoid to meet his client or agent.We argued with him last time and he even provoke us.My case was pending for 2 years .and finally solved! you know what chuah is not afraid of us.He even maki his staff in front of his client.
And now Haidar appointed a new lawyer.his name is Ansor.Same shit! This Ansor can raise his voice towards us! And he said that he can do what he want because this is his office. FCUK! What I can say is if you receive the legal fees, please ask for a discount from them or dont pay it at ALL!

Actually Chuah,Haidhar and also Ansor and the whole firm are not reliable! please appoint other lawyer.