Hi everyone, got any digital lock model is designed for condo iron grill door? Usually digital lock can be opened from inside just at a turn of the knob right? Thanks
Digital Door Lock, Recommendations?
Digital Door Lock, Recommendations?
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Jun 19 2017, 09:39 AM
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Hi everyone, got any digital lock model is designed for condo iron grill door? Usually digital lock can be opened from inside just at a turn of the knob right? Thanks
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Jun 19 2017, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(luvimp @ Feb 29 2016, 09:55 AM) Yale or Schlage is better choice. Can you please elaborate on one knock to the lock and RM1k will be gone, since I am considering one fo these digital locks for added security. Nothing lesser than RM1k and installation will cost your RM200-300. It is for convenient and not security. If someone hates u, 1 hit to your lock and your RM1k+ will be gone. The thing is, most if not all locks in the market can be opened by a locksmith in below 5 seconds. There isn't any need to break the locks. The reason I am considering these digital locks is the locksmith may not be able to use conventional methods of opening the digital locks. I need someone to confirm on this. If the locksmith cannot open digital locks, then the only way is to break them by use of force with special tools. Some digital locks come with alarm, and I appreciate information if the alarm will be triggered if the digital locks are smashed open by force. If the alarm of the digital locks did not function when someone breaks the digital lock, then the digital lock that comes with the alarm function is of no use in terms of security. |
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Jun 19 2017, 10:58 AM
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This is a very relevant link from a locksmith that shows how a conventional lock can be easily opened. I have personally experienced this so I am aware of the relevance of this post below. I just wonder if locksmith can open digital locks as well? The link and post below.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...entry85334464 QUOTE(ku1wing @ Jul 15 2016, 10:48 AM) Actually Stainless Steel 304 grade security door is good. Just make sure it is thick enough, like 3mm will be the best. less than 2 mm is too thin, can be pried open actually. But the weakness point of the doorset, is the lock itself. There is no need for a thief or burglar to attack your door, because the lock is so easy, no different than the ordinary locks on wooden door. The burglared case posted above is quite common, estimated takes less than 1 minute to enter. But if we just change the key cylinder to a high security type like KESO or EVVA, it will become near impossible for a thief. For a robber, I will still feel sorry for him. Probably after the police arrive, they are still trying to break the lock or door. The point is, get a good thick door from a reliable door company, then get a good lock from a locksmith only. Sorry I am a locksmith from Kuching Sarawak, can't help you guys out in Peninsula. But I am trained from KL so I know some folks selling high security. Trust me, a door salesman might bluff but he knows nothing about locks. Door is their field, not locks. For locks, look for your locksmith. AND WE ARE TIRED OF REPAIRING LOUSY LOCKS INSTALLED BY DOOR SALESMAN!! This is not my two cents, this is pure brutal knowledge. Stay safe, Francis Wong. Master Locksmith @ The Fine Lock Shop Kuching Visit Our Website Here |
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Jun 19 2017, 11:25 AM
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Jun 19 2017, 03:49 PM
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Jun 19 2017, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Jun 19 2017, 10:53 AM) Can you please elaborate on one knock to the lock and RM1k will be gone, since I am considering one fo these digital locks for added security. Most digital lock comes with manual key overide... otherwise the electronics rosak or no power/battery means your door cannot open...The thing is, most if not all locks in the market can be opened by a locksmith in below 5 seconds. There isn't any need to break the locks. The reason I am considering these digital locks is the locksmith may not be able to use conventional methods of opening the digital locks. I need someone to confirm on this. If the locksmith cannot open digital locks, then the only way is to break them by use of force with special tools. Some digital locks come with alarm, and I appreciate information if the alarm will be triggered if the digital locks are smashed open by force. If the alarm of the digital locks did not function when someone breaks the digital lock, then the digital lock that comes with the alarm function is of no use in terms of security. |
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Jul 1 2017, 08:41 PM
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Hi guys, which of these models are z-wave ready lock?
Yale ydm4109, ydm4115, ymf40, ydr424g. Many thanks |
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Aug 21 2017, 01:44 AM
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Hi can any one advise me on a digital lock ?
I want to install it on the main door for easy airbnb guest check in. Something that uses door code ? and I can change on the fly using phone app before the next customers come in ? Please advice thank you |
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Aug 21 2017, 08:47 AM
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Hi, has anyone here installed digital lock on safety door? Please share your experience here. thanks!
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Jun 9 2019, 02:02 PM
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Planning to install digital lock aswell, any recommendations?
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Aug 31 2020, 01:05 PM
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Those using digital lock for own stay can drop some pros and cons review ? how's the reliability of the locks ETC?
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Aug 31 2020, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(selinix @ Aug 31 2020, 01:05 PM) Those using digital lock for own stay can drop some pros and cons review ? how's the reliability of the locks ETC? Any thing electronic will be susceptible to failure. I got a reputable one more than 6 months ago. Its motor unit failed shortly after installation and need warranty claim to replace the faulty unit. During the time of failure I have to use manual key to operate the lock and hence my advice is if you are getting a smart lock get one with manual key. It sounds obvious and most will have this but still need to make sure this feature is available. Pros - remote monitoring and lock and unlock - multiple options to unlock from numerical pad, thumb print, auto unlock, NFC, manual key, app, etc - integrate to Alexa or Google - temporary vs permanent user passwords - Auto lock - simple to use. Keyless entry Cons - many of these are not the most robust against burglary. Generally more suitable for gng community - good ones with great features and tough against burglary are not cheap - need to watch out on battery level. That said my lock battery level still HIGH after 6 months+ of usage. You will get alerts when the battery is low. Anyway my lock can also use power bank to connect to the lock as emergency feature. This post has been edited by blancpain4470: Aug 31 2020, 03:08 PM tony_mw liked this post
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Aug 31 2020, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(selinix @ Aug 31 2020, 01:05 PM) Those using digital lock for own stay can drop some pros and cons review ? how's the reliability of the locks ETC? My family home uses a Yale Smart Lock and recently installed a Bosch lock for my studio. Pros : -Convenient as no need to carry any keys about though we do keep a spare hidden somewhere in the garden. Cons : -Good ones are expensive and I would not use any that are cheap to buy unless it is being used for a bedroom. -Privacy concerns. -Long term reliability is still unknown as they have not been in widespread use for long. |
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Sep 1 2020, 08:52 AM
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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Aug 31 2020, 03:07 PM) Any thing electronic will be susceptible to failure. I got a reputable one more than 6 months ago. Its motor unit failed shortly after installation and need warranty claim to replace the faulty unit. During the time of failure I have to use manual key to operate the lock and hence my advice is if you are getting a smart lock get one with manual key. It sounds obvious and most will have this but still need to make sure this feature is available. thanks for the feedback, indeed the dilemma of changing ones is due to the electrical component inside so is choosing between convenience (the cool factor) and reliability.. and the challenge of installing 2 x digital lock for the main door and security grille for condoPros - remote monitoring and lock and unlock - multiple options to unlock from numerical pad, thumb print, auto unlock, NFC, manual key, app, etc - integrate to Alexa or Google - temporary vs permanent user passwords - Auto lock - simple to use. Keyless entry Cons - many of these are not the most robust against burglary. Generally more suitable for gng community - good ones with great features and tough against burglary are not cheap - need to watch out on battery level. That said my lock battery level still HIGH after 6 months+ of usage. You will get alerts when the battery is low. Anyway my lock can also use power bank to connect to the lock as emergency feature. love those features of being connected to the WIFI for all the remote management but any IT savvy folks would know that spell another layer of security breach This post has been edited by selinix: Sep 1 2020, 08:53 AM |
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Sep 1 2020, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(selinix @ Sep 1 2020, 08:52 AM) thanks for the feedback, indeed the dilemma of changing ones is due to the electrical component inside so is choosing between convenience (the cool factor) and reliability.. and the challenge of installing 2 x digital lock for the main door and security grille for condo The security of the latest generation of locks are better but any connected device will still have vulnerability. If you are considering smart lock it should be complemented with security camera and system ... just to be sure. I think this is the tipping point where the benefits starts to outweigh the risks. love those features of being connected to the WIFI for all the remote management but any IT savvy folks would know that spell another layer of security breach In my case the gng security is already good that security of the lock is not a major concern. Despite that I still have a security camera installed. |
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Sep 1 2020, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Sep 1 2020, 10:10 AM) The security of the latest generation of locks are better but any connected device will still have vulnerability. If you are considering smart lock it should be complemented with security camera and system ... just to be sure. I think this is the tipping point where the benefits starts to outweigh the risks. If i would have decided to install one, i will go for those without any WIFI capability, just straight forward fingerprint / pass code lock unlockIn my case the gng security is already good that security of the lock is not a major concern. Despite that I still have a security camera installed. |
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Sep 2 2020, 02:06 PM
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Sep 20 2020, 11:30 PM
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anyone know how to install digital door lock ? planning to get 1 from Lazada but no installation provided
got people know how to install please pm me |
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Oct 1 2020, 08:38 AM
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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Aug 31 2020, 03:07 PM) Any thing electronic will be susceptible to failure. I got a reputable one more than 6 months ago. Its motor unit failed shortly after installation and need warranty claim to replace the faulty unit. During the time of failure I have to use manual key to operate the lock and hence my advice is if you are getting a smart lock get one with manual key. It sounds obvious and most will have this but still need to make sure this feature is available. Which brand is that? So fast motor failed? I dissected almost every brand already. So really wana know... Is it Sciener? Or Keywe?Pros - remote monitoring and lock and unlock - multiple options to unlock from numerical pad, thumb print, auto unlock, NFC, manual key, app, etc - integrate to Alexa or Google - temporary vs permanent user passwords - Auto lock - simple to use. Keyless entry Cons - many of these are not the most robust against burglary. Generally more suitable for gng community - good ones with great features and tough against burglary are not cheap - need to watch out on battery level. That said my lock battery level still HIGH after 6 months+ of usage. You will get alerts when the battery is low. Anyway my lock can also use power bank to connect to the lock as emergency feature. This post has been edited by ku1wing: Oct 1 2020, 08:49 AM |
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Oct 1 2020, 08:54 AM
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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Jun 19 2017, 10:58 AM) This is a very relevant link from a locksmith that shows how a conventional lock can be easily opened. I have personally experienced this so I am aware of the relevance of this post below. I just wonder if locksmith can open digital locks as well? The link and post below. Thanks for reading my post 🤣🤣🤣https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...entry85334464 Digital lock, are much tougher to open.... i certainly have to drill it... but some can lockpicked too (local thief usually x so pro so no worries) And so far until now 2020, among all my burglar client, not a single case is breaking thru digital lock yet. So i think thief is quite scared of digital door lock maybe because of the beep beep sound. |
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