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thefryingfox
post Feb 8 2016, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(niklys @ Feb 8 2016, 09:07 PM)
Hi thefryingfox,

From your calculation, i believe you are advising me to input monthly road tax, monthly insurance cost, monthly fuel consumption, and monthly installment altogether to be below 30% of my monthly income, right? if i were to pay higher deposit, would that solve my monthly commitment issue with expectancy to major service cost?

hmmmmm, i do agree with the fact that the interest rate is a killer there. the maths is crazy.

although, pushing 7 years with 20% downpayment is fine, right? the interest rate would be better then, like 3.1 or 3.2%

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well you pointed out a good point....30% of your nett spendable salary is about right but what i was saying, save 30% of your monthly car installment for mentainance. Though oil change can be around 400 in 3-4 months...but the big ticket items will come and when they come, you better be ready for it dawg!

another thing to note, them tires at the rear are quite....pricy and cheap manufactres like neuton, nexen etc hardly makes them or if they do, the size may not fit and to align a newer beemer will cost significantly more than your japanese brethen due to the active steering system
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post Feb 8 2016, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(niklys @ Feb 8 2016, 09:15 PM)
Hi student93,

Acceleration is bad? Though, the reviews are stating that the diesels are actually more powerful, thus, I do expect better pickup rate, am I wrong? Yes, the general consensus that I'm hearing and noting so far is that diesels are rough and noisy. With your experience, the car is refined during cruising? At what speed onwards it begins to get rough or uncomfortable?

Sorry, but i dont get what are RFTs. most of the places that i go to are places in KL, sometimes outstation (thus got potholes and etc).

i always listen to my gf advice when it comes to wealth and health matters, probably that's why i'm growing financially, mentally, and physically (physically sideways  whistling.gif ). But yeah, after going continental and wanting to go back to japanese, it feels weird I guess in terms of reputation and driving feeling.

besides the engine/transmission issue, comprehensive service history and ATF understanding, i was looking forward to understand more on what could be a potential issue. for that, my odds of selecting and filtering the gem of all trades is better. i genuinely believe that maintaining is regular and issues wont succumb unless inappropriate driving style and careless sense when it comes to taking care of a car surfaced. salary perspective, it seems okay. just that, reassuring is what matters most to me now. hahahahaha! im such a silly diehard beemer fan  wub.gif

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you see, a turbocharged diesel and a NA petrol behaves very differently. Turbo diesel has a very exhilirating drive.....peak boost comes around 1800-2200 RPM ( in simple words, all that 380NM of torque comes out in that range so acceleration is quite fun.
An NA petrol like the 325i has a somewhat slower response ( in term of feeling) because the power band and torque comes in way later ( and the torque comes in as the RPM goes up instead of all out).

You should test a turbo diesel car to really understand what i am saying.

With your future plans of getting that huge increment, when you see your salary higher, gone are the days of eating mamaks or eating kfc's....your perception towards life change..you want to eat better, you want to hang out more and you want to maybe have other prioritiies like a house ( good oppurtunity this year) or getting your wedding budget set up.....those are better priorities in life. Truth be told, I am already getting 15K right now but owning a BMW has never crossed my mind......sure its a UDM and all but the very thought of spending 500 ringgit on oil change gives me the shudders....300-350 is the most i would pay and that means a japanese or a lower end conti.


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post Feb 8 2016, 11:16 PM

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pleaze...stay away from BmW/Conti if ur salary less than rm10k especially used one.


maybe u can afford normal wear and tear but any major repair needed ..if will realize that bmw not mean to you
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post Feb 8 2016, 11:23 PM

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That was what i was tryna tell the the dude. earning 6 or 7 or 8k in KL is no big deal.

I am earning twise that amount and sometimes still feel im poor in this country.

And to be honest, driving a bmw in today's world is nothing to shout about unless its a 335i or the likes....every day the road is swamped with these and vw's. its just....hmmmm cant find the right words but plain may sum up.

But TS, if you are reallly adamant, give a 320D a go. atleast diesel is cheaper, road tax is the same with a petrol 2.0 and well....that's all i can tell you. But being diesel, it will be extremely difficult to find something that has not gone through alot of KM because diesels generally do get alot of KM's pounded on them....and dont bother with the mileage, the mileage is in the key fob so its very easy to tweak it if you are buying second hand. have personally seen someone tweak the mileage on a second hand car ( well not only beemers but most second hand car).


The dealers are very good at restorin leather etc so it looks new but just bear in mind, either get it from a second hand owner directly or pray to the gods before u get one from a used car dealer
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post Feb 8 2016, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(niklys @ Feb 8 2016, 09:33 PM)
Hi student93,

I believe that sound is subjective, to a person preference. I like it when it's not too loud (i know it's a little feminine and not too man-ly driving hahahaha  laugh.gif ) Hmmmmm, the suspension might be of a concern for me. Would prefer a more comfortable ride, even when there's alot of holes or uneven surfaces. is it possible to not get the m-sport suspension? hahahaha, i might be stupid here  rclxub.gif

Ohhhh, that's what you short form for run-flat tyres? hahahaha! okay, RFT would be good i guess. cost a little more and the upset to the comfort driving is not as significant as the suspension i believe. add some dampening acoustic material to the wheel arch and i guess the road noise would be better  thumbup.gif

yeah, finger crossed hopefully no problems occur for your end hahahaha! happy for you the fact that your beemer is healthy  rclxms.gif  biggrin.gif

The steepness of depreciation is true that after the 5 year mark, it's not as bad. moreover, i believe i would be keeping it for long, probably 10 years down the road (unless tesla decided to make super performance car with cheapo electric cost, then otherwise  whistling.gif ). in addition to that, i agree that most non-continental owners do say alot about the negativity, but who am i to judge right? hahahaha! yeah, most probably will go for one, despite the fact that it might be painful for a little while  tongue.gif

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I think 323i will come with stock suspension and most 325i will be specced with m sport. 320d mixed. It's not loud per say, took a 325i for a test drive and the sound was so smooth, look up some vids on youtube. Its different buying new because the cost difference between them was around rm60k and not enough to justify the extra cost just for the sound but if buying used, I think you need to just test drive to see which you prefer.

The 320d is great to drive, 420Nm of torque also no joke, go genting if raining turbo kick in around 2k rpm also tire will slide laugh.gif

Maybe try looking at BMW approved cars as well, I think those come with 1 year warranty.

Hmm, actually RFT quite stiff and performance slightly worse compared to normal tyres, look up some reviews online, most owners tend to change back to normal tyres. Only reason why BMW is using them is so they can design a car without a spare tyre, cutting down weight for FC and emissions reason.

Lastly, taking care of a turbo car abit different also, warming up and cooling down after the drive very important for the turbo, if you get a 320d I'll be happy to advise then thumbup.gif


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Would love to own a 520d. Can I get a decent one for rm140k?
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post Feb 9 2016, 11:14 AM

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Would love to own a 520d. Can I get  a decent one for rm140k?
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post Feb 9 2016, 04:44 PM

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BMW E90 LCI Model - Facelifted

Dear Sifu(s) / Beemer(s) / BMW Specialist(s) / Experienced People(s),

I would like to purchase a used/secondhand BMW 3-Series E90 Facelifted LCI Model, probably year made from 2009 to year 2011, as I'm a big fan of BMW and by heart, wanting to be a Beemer. As I'm inexperienced with the automotive world, I would like to seek help and advice from sifu(s), beemer(s), BMW Specialist(s), and experienced people in LYN to give me a better understanding and for me to be prepared to own one BMW E90 (I don't mind to come out for coffee, chilling session, or meetups, the treats on me). I understand that this car is not cheap to maintain by nature, and I should not expect this car (maintenance, road tax, insurance cost) to be the same as my Proton Wira SE '08. Thus, I will be as detailed as possible regarding my financial strengths and my potential daily driving usage of the new BMW for I would like to understand the potential outcome of driving a BMW, the UDM.

Objective of this Post
-Can I afford a used BMW E90/E60?
-Where can I find a good used car dealer/good used BMW car?
-What should I look out for (potential signs of bad car owner, resulting in bad car condition)?
-How much should I standby for the used BMW (from the initial stages of purchasing it)?
-Reliability of the BMW E90 LCI Model

*About Myself*
-Personally, I'm just a typical Chinese dude who works in an IT company that has no family commitments (girlfriend is not in this category, right?  blush.gif), no car commitments, and no housing commitments. I would most probably drive this car (E90) for the purpose of point A to point B (nothing more than 5,000km in 2-3 months) and sometimes love couple weekend trip within Malaysia (Melaka, Penang, Johor, etc) and maybe once in a blue moon to Thailand and Singapore. I would need to meet important people like CEOs, COOs, CFOs, Directors, VPs, Datuks and the list goes on, thus, I need something of value like a E90 to ride with these people. My driving style is moderately relaxing (mostly in traffic jams with 10-80 km/h, highways at 110-130 km/h, and sometimes if empty road at 150 km/h and above). I'm not a heavy right footer, but occasionally when I need the power to overtake some stupid lorries, buses, or irritating fast lane hoggers, I would pedal to the metal. Given the fact that if it's a BMW, I might ride at 160-180 km/h on highways when I'm travelling far to places like Ipoh, Kuantan, and etc. I'm would be bias to and wants more of a comfort ride (wants great tolerance to bumpiness, dampings, and extremely low NVH, road noise, wind noise) than to performance driving (super cornering speed, drifting, pickup, topspeed, and the list goes on), basically, a guy who wants comfort and luxury driving than to a sports car.

*My Financial Strengths*  sad.gif

Monthly Income (without including annual bonus, deduction from EPF/SOCSO/TAX)  hmm.gif

-Budget price for the car itself (including OTR, insurance, deposit, for the car) = RM105,000 maximum.
-Gross Monthly Salary (without bonuses, EPF/SOCSO/TAX deduction, etc) = RM5,000
-Monthly Side Income (non-deductable by EPF/SOCSO/TAX) = RM500
-Annual Bonus (let's ignore this for the time being, for best measures) = RM0

Total Monthly Salary (without bonuses, deduction from EPF/SOCSO/TAX) = RM5,500
Total Annual Salary (without bonuses, deduction from EPF/SOCSO/TAX) = RM66,000

Monthly Liability & Commitment (active and visible through CTOS/CCRIS) icon_question.gif

-Personal Loan (2 years duration) = RM650 per month
-PTPTN Loan (10 years duration) = RM110 per month
-Housing Loan (none) = RM0
-Car Loan (none) = RM0

Total Monthly Liability ohmy.gif = RM760 per month

I have a Proton Wira Special Edition '08 Auto (WiSE) 1.5 GLi, which has been fully paid off. I would like to trade in this car to support my initial deposit in buying the E90 as spoken.

*BMW Option Keen In* icon_question.gif [\B]
-BMW 320i E90 LCI Model with I-Drive (ok ok lo)
-BMW 323i E90 LCI Model with I-Drive (my preference)
-BMW 325i E90 LCI Model with I-Drive (ok ok lo)
-BMW 520i E60 LCI Model (not my preference)
-BMW 523i E60 LCI Model (my preference)
-BMW 525i E60 LCI Model (not my preference)
-BMW 530i E60 LCI Model (not my preference)

[B]From the above, I am seeking knowledge on the the potential maintenance cost, parts to be in concern with (damages like oil leaking, mechatronics, and etc), as well as overall review of the car model mentioned above. However, I'm currently having my eyes on the BMW E90 LCI Model 323i with I-Drive with year made 2009 to 2011. In addition to that, I'm looking forward to understand is CKD or CBU better for this model. It would be superb if you may suggest me a workshop where I can check the secondhand BMW for potential damages (a BMW specialist, etc). I'm also trying to look out for a good E90 323i with I-Drive as mentioned above, so, is there any secondhand car dealer which I can try out for best results?


Thank you in advance  notworthy.gif  for your assistance and advice which I am extremely grateful for and highly appreciated. Your support, advice, and guidance would be appreciated for me transitioning into a Beemer. Please give me energy to become a Beemer!  icon_rolleyes.gif

Yours genuinely,
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Firstly. U don't call yourself a beemer. U call yourself a beemer owner.

You are definitely dying to drive one because its a beemer. Some friends may tell u, u only live once.
I used to have one e36 many years ago. Paid through my nose for maintaining it. I was earning around 10grand and I felt it took a huge chunk of meat..
Anyway, its a old man tale...typically its around 3-3.5k to maintain it..if u r taking a loan. Like what others are saying, u should calculate per annum instead.

Thirdly..that's a old bmw. Many high flyers and bosses do not mind what car u are driving, unless u are the boss of ur company. And to them, u are driving a old bmw, like any regular car. If u are truly getting a 3 series, bosses hated the legroom..they prefer at least a 5 series or a segment d.

If u r taking a long term loan, it is hard for u to get out of the loan unless u don't mind paying off the balance. For the next few years, your bmw will look really old.

Really pointless to get a bmw just to look good for your company visitors.
These bosses...if they are superficial, they will mind more of luxurious feel, legroom, or whether it's a high end car. A entry level bmw doesn't really work in ur favor. They don't just look at a badge.

Good luck.


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QUOTE(SYL17 @ Feb 9 2016, 04:44 PM)
Firstly. U don't call yourself a beemer. U call yourself a beemer owner.

You are definitely dying to drive one because its a beemer. Some friends may tell u, u only live once.
I used to have one e36 many years ago. Paid through my nose for maintaining it. I was earning around 10grand and I felt it took a huge chunk of meat..
Anyway, its a old man tale...typically its around 3-3.5k to maintain it..if u r taking a loan. Like what others are saying, u should calculate per annum instead.

Thirdly..that's a old bmw. Many high flyers and bosses do not mind what car u are driving, unless u are the boss of ur company. And to them, u are driving a old bmw, like any regular car. If u are truly getting a 3 series, bosses hated the legroom..they prefer at least a 5 series or a segment d.

If u r taking a long term loan, it is hard for u to get out of the loan unless u don't mind paying off the balance. For the next few years, your bmw will look really old.

Really pointless to get a bmw just to look good for your company visitors.
These bosses...if they are superficial, they will mind more of luxurious feel, legroom, or whether it's a high end car. A entry level bmw doesn't really work in ur favor. They don't just look at a badge.

Good luck.
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good advice... camry hybrid or 2nd hand bmw... no difference to big boss. Just go for what your wallet allow now and get a premium car in the future
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post Feb 15 2016, 08:16 PM

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Bmw cars are very sensitive. My immediate superior has a E60 as an official car. Always send to workshop. This error la, that error la.. Never ending. the workshop claim also very expensive. Now we have e-class as company car. No prob so far.

If u insist for E90 lci, buy certified pre-used. price is slightly higher. But better quality & peace of mind.
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Seriously 5k is not going to be enuff to fund a bmw, esp a 2nd hand one. I know people can be stubborn when it comes to their first bmw, so my only advise to you is, if you're really firm on your decision to get a e90, at least choose a loan that is <than 5 years if you can afford it. If you go 9 years(which most ppl does) you're not going to be able to afford a house in that 9 years. So think wisely.

P/s: most ceo dont care what car u drive. As a matter of fact, you are better driving a modest car and bosses will go, "how much are we paying you? So little? I'll take note" instead of a fancy bmw, bosses will think they are paying you enuff.

True story.

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post Feb 20 2016, 11:23 AM

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indeed.

if you are starting up in your career, u can drive a dead beat tiara no one cares.

what you need to think about is you are starting and your focus should be trying to get as much of money and knowledge as possible.

driving a fancy bmw car ( well maybe 10-15 year ago) was good..nowadays, its as common as a KIA. nothing much to be impressed. but atleast u can still smile when you look at your balance


now if you are 40 or 50 year old of age, then its should be okay.....atleast people know this car u own instead of that mindset that your family bought for you and u are some sort of rich kid.


in ending, i'd say " ukur baju di badan sendiri"
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QUOTE(thefryingfox @ Feb 20 2016, 11:23 AM)
indeed.

if you are starting up in your career, u can drive a dead beat tiara no one cares.

what you need to think about is you are starting and your focus should be trying to get as much of money and knowledge as possible.

driving a fancy bmw car ( well maybe 10-15 year ago) was good..nowadays, its as common as a KIA. nothing much to be impressed. but atleast u can still smile when you look at your balance
now if you are 40 or 50 year old of age, then its should be okay.....atleast people know this car u own instead of that mindset that your family bought for you and u are some sort of rich kid.
in ending, i'd say " ukur baju di badan sendiri"
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Well said mate. I fully agree with you. I was once in the same shoes as the TS, earning twice as much as him, had the desire to own a Conti BMW/MB/Audi but somehow i realized it's all about the burning desire that overshadowed our thoughts and causing us not to be realistic at all.

If i were to spend that amount of money on a car, i would rather choose a Japanese D-segment instead, especially Camry Hybrid, that would be a good upgrade on my civic FD.

So TS, if you think you are ready for the 2nd hand BMW, just go for it and wish you good luck. cool2.gif
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QUOTE(niklys @ Feb 8 2016, 07:14 PM)
BMW E90 LCI Model - Facelifted

Dear Sifu(s) / Beemer(s) / BMW Specialist(s) / Experienced People(s),

I would like to purchase a used/secondhand BMW 3-Series E90 Facelifted LCI Model, probably year made from 2009 to year 2011, as I'm a big fan of BMW and by heart, wanting to be a Beemer. As I'm inexperienced with the automotive world, I would like to seek help and advice from sifu(s), beemer(s), BMW Specialist(s), and experienced people in LYN to give me a better understanding and for me to be prepared to own one BMW E90 (I don't mind to come out for coffee, chilling session, or meetups, the treats on me). I understand that this car is not cheap to maintain by nature, and I should not expect this car (maintenance, road tax, insurance cost) to be the same as my Proton Wira SE '08. Thus, I will be as detailed as possible regarding my financial strengths and my potential daily driving usage of the new BMW for I would like to understand the potential outcome of driving a BMW, the UDM.

Objective of this Post
-Can I afford a used BMW E90/E60?
-Where can I find a good used car dealer/good used BMW car?
-What should I look out for (potential signs of bad car owner, resulting in bad car condition)?
-How much should I standby for the used BMW (from the initial stages of purchasing it)?
-Reliability of the BMW E90 LCI Model

*About Myself*
-Personally, I'm just a typical Chinese dude who works in an IT company that has no family commitments (girlfriend is not in this category, right?  blush.gif), no car commitments, and no housing commitments. I would most probably drive this car (E90) for the purpose of point A to point B (nothing more than 5,000km in 2-3 months) and sometimes love couple weekend trip within Malaysia (Melaka, Penang, Johor, etc) and maybe once in a blue moon to Thailand and Singapore. I would need to meet important people like CEOs, COOs, CFOs, Directors, VPs, Datuks and the list goes on, thus, I need something of value like a E90 to ride with these people. My driving style is moderately relaxing (mostly in traffic jams with 10-80 km/h, highways at 110-130 km/h, and sometimes if empty road at 150 km/h and above). I'm not a heavy right footer, but occasionally when I need the power to overtake some stupid lorries, buses, or irritating fast lane hoggers, I would pedal to the metal. Given the fact that if it's a BMW, I might ride at 160-180 km/h on highways when I'm travelling far to places like Ipoh, Kuantan, and etc. I'm would be bias to and wants more of a comfort ride (wants great tolerance to bumpiness, dampings, and extremely low NVH, road noise, wind noise) than to performance driving (super cornering speed, drifting, pickup, topspeed, and the list goes on), basically, a guy who wants comfort and luxury driving than to a sports car.

*My Financial Strengths*  sad.gif

Monthly Income (without including annual bonus, deduction from EPF/SOCSO/TAX)  hmm.gif

-Budget price for the car itself (including OTR, insurance, deposit, for the car) = RM105,000 maximum.
-Gross Monthly Salary (without bonuses, EPF/SOCSO/TAX deduction, etc) = RM5,000
-Monthly Side Income (non-deductable by EPF/SOCSO/TAX) = RM500
-Annual Bonus (let's ignore this for the time being, for best measures) = RM0

Total Monthly Salary (without bonuses, deduction from EPF/SOCSO/TAX) = RM5,500
Total Annual Salary (without bonuses, deduction from EPF/SOCSO/TAX) = RM66,000

Monthly Liability & Commitment (active and visible through CTOS/CCRIS) icon_question.gif

-Personal Loan (2 years duration) = RM650 per month
-PTPTN Loan (10 years duration) = RM110 per month
-Housing Loan (none) = RM0
-Car Loan (none) = RM0

Total Monthly Liability ohmy.gif = RM760 per month

I have a Proton Wira Special Edition '08 Auto (WiSE) 1.5 GLi, which has been fully paid off. I would like to trade in this car to support my initial deposit in buying the E90 as spoken.

*BMW Option Keen In* icon_question.gif [\B]
-BMW 320i E90 LCI Model with I-Drive (ok ok lo)
-BMW 323i E90 LCI Model with I-Drive (my preference)
-BMW 325i E90 LCI Model with I-Drive (ok ok lo)
-BMW 520i E60 LCI Model (not my preference)
-BMW 523i E60 LCI Model (my preference)
-BMW 525i E60 LCI Model (not my preference)
-BMW 530i E60 LCI Model (not my preference)

[B]From the above, I am seeking knowledge on the the potential maintenance cost, parts to be in concern with (damages like oil leaking, mechatronics, and etc), as well as overall review of the car model mentioned above. However, I'm currently having my eyes on the BMW E90 LCI Model 323i with I-Drive with year made 2009 to 2011. In addition to that, I'm looking forward to understand is CKD or CBU better for this model. It would be superb if you may suggest me a workshop where I can check the secondhand BMW for potential damages (a BMW specialist, etc). I'm also trying to look out for a good E90 323i with I-Drive as mentioned above, so, is there any secondhand car dealer which I can try out for best results?


Thank you in advance  notworthy.gif  for your assistance and advice which I am extremely grateful for and highly appreciated. Your support, advice, and guidance would be appreciated for me transitioning into a Beemer. Please give me energy to become a Beemer!  icon_rolleyes.gif

Yours genuinely,
Nikly
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Bro,

Put aside RM 10K for wears and tears.


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TS, I am in the same situation like you 4 years back, I did a lot more research and almost getting a used 320d/325i LCI at 160k-180k and luckily I did not.

By looking at how my friend maintain his beemer, I am glad that I control myself from wanting to own a BMW so badly at that time.

After going through your criteria or (requirements in IT term), you are looking for comfort and luxury which is where the Mercedes is better on. A C200 with 1.8L turbo charged CGI engine will suite you more with the better rear legroom and lower roadtax/insurance premium.

I am earning more than twice your salary and I choose the latest Accord instead of an E90. I understand it is very hard to stop yourselves from owning a BMW but I'm sure that you will be able to afford it in coming years.

I can assure you that the VVIP part is only an excuse, the real reason is you are the one wanted the BMW. A Camry/Accord can do perfectly fine without hurting your wallet that much. With your requirements, the XV40 2.4V Camry will serve you very well and you can think of getting the 3 series in few years later.

You will definitely own it one day, I am also targeting my next car to be the premium segment. Don't hurt your pocket too early, you will definitely able to afford a brand new BMW later on.
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TS:
With your salary, you can easily own a E90. But you may find it hard to maintain this baby if you had a lemon unit. The maintenance cost for normal wear and tear parts isn't that bad, it's more likely some price of a Honda if you service it outside. Of course, to replace parts are more expensive in a sense E90 has more parts and sensors to be replaced.

I was in your situation - to choose between a E90 and E60. At the end, I choose E90. However, if I hadn't chosen any beemers, I would be glad to own a few more properties (considering properties way back in 2006 is more affordable than now). So you can continue to think if you want a E90 with its maintenance or get yourself a property + a simplier maintenance car e.g. a Civic.
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QUOTE(guanteik @ Feb 24 2016, 05:49 PM)
TS:
With your salary, you can easily own a E90. But you may find it hard to maintain this baby if you had a lemon unit. The maintenance cost for normal wear and tear parts isn't that bad, it's more likely some price of a Honda if you service it outside. Of course, to replace parts are more expensive in a sense E90 has more parts and sensors to be replaced.

I was in your situation - to choose between a E90 and E60. At the end, I choose E90. However, if I hadn't chosen any beemers, I would be glad to own a few more properties (considering properties way back in 2006 is more affordable than now). So you can continue to think if you want a E90 with its maintenance or get yourself a property + a simplier maintenance car e.g. a Civic.
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With the escalation in property prices the time when you can choose to buy a BMW or invest in a property is over.
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QUOTE(Ginny88 @ Feb 24 2016, 08:55 PM)
With the escalation in property prices the time when you can choose to buy a BMW or invest in a property is over.
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To put it this way, to buy a BMW you can buy it ANYTIME but to buy a property wise, it's not going to wait for us. So when the price of a property is escalating, it's time for us to save the down payment for the next good deal.

BMW... can wait lar.
Ginny88
post Feb 25 2016, 10:27 AM

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Can buy based on calculation of instalment, regular servicing and salary but does TS have enough reserve/earning for unscheduled repairs? Ideally maintenance should not come out of savings but from income as savings can be depleted.

Of course it is hard to determine accurately how much it costs to maintain a second hand BMW. It can be anything from RM2K to RM20K a year depending on whether you get a good car or a problematic car. The higher income you have the better you are able to withstand repair shocks.

An income of RM5.5K a month gross is very thin to maintain a BMW. You practically must have good car giving you minimal problems. It's like gambling when you can't afford to lose.

Still, it's TS's decision if he wants it now rather than later. No right or wrong.
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post Feb 25 2016, 10:56 AM

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Get a used Camry that could serve your purpose in ferrying those VIPs. Ya, it's good enough, trust me. (previous model recommended)

If I'm in your shoes, with fixed salary 5.5k/month, I won't be bother to get a car with 100k+ price tag(with heavy/high maintenance).

F**k increment, u expecting to have 20-30% yearly increment?

I'll only be considering your recommended car list if the job gives me at least twice or more of your basic as monthly commission.

Used conti may need to visit workshop for wear & tear. It might affect your job in future too.

 

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