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 Help on BMW E90 LCI Model (Used Car), Need help on buying a BMW E90/E60

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student93
post Feb 8 2016, 07:41 PM

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BMWs being unreliable is just word of mouth, however you do need to look for one thats well maintained.

A dead giveaway would be the 'lifetime' transmission fluid. BMW malaysia recommends to not change but the supplier of the transmission ZF says otherwise, so if the owner did his homework and replaced it at around 80k km you can be sure he looks after his cars.

Ive also heard that the 2.0l has issues with oil consumption so best avoid, go for the 6 cylinders.

Experience: e90 320d 5 years 100k km zero problems with transmission and engine, only worn absorbers covered under warranty.

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post Feb 8 2016, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(niklys @ Feb 8 2016, 07:49 PM)
Hi student93,

I was told by numerous ppl that BMWs is unreliable in the sense of maintenance and consistency of the car condition. However, I genuinely believed that should a person knows what's under his hood and decides to learn through time to take good care of it, all the car are about the same in terms of maintenance (maybe cost varies a little).

Though I would like to understand this further,

-How may I identify that the owner of the used BMW car actually had replaced his ATF for his bmw?
-The 6 cylinders you're mentioning about is the 2.5L, right?
-Is your E90 320d noisy when it comes to guzzling the petrol pedal and hitting the highway at speeds of 160-180?

Thank you for your fair share of experience and thoughts, really appreciate it.  notworthy.gif

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I think just ask and normally will have receipt, thing is BMW malaysia actually implies that the warranty might be voided if you change the ATF so some owners are kinda confused.

Ya 2.5 all 6 cylinders.

Diesels only noisy when you are outside the car, only wind and tyre roar at 220kmh. When cruising cant really hear the engine too. Specced with m performance kit so 200hp out of factory, performance far above all the previous jap cars Ive driven.

However, from your post it seems like you are a car enthusiast, so I think the 325i would suit you more, the 320d doesnt actually sound 'bad', it even has a soft growls under accel, but its just not very exciting. I would get the 325i for the sound alone.

Why the 323i over the 325i though?

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post Feb 8 2016, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(niklys @ Feb 8 2016, 08:17 PM)
Hi student93,

I think if wind and tyre begins to roar at 220 km/h, I doubt that that's really considered as "bad", right? i mean, it's 220 km/h. even other manufacturers one would have some sort of noises like that too, right? blink.gif

I was researching the 3 series model and figured that the 325i actually packs more punch (in terms of it's performance, overall), however, with more performance, generally and genuinely i thought, would come at a greater expense. so i was still floating around with 320i, 323i, and 325i. but in the end, after timely research (not lengthy), i noted that most of the beemer owners didn mentioned that for comfort driving, the 323i would be better in terms of the tuning, suspension and etc, whereas the 325i would be better in terms of performance while sacrificing some comfort for driving. that's why i opted for 323i. then again, i was told that 320d actually had the best reliability for the engine and transmission reliability, thus, now i might consider 320d.  rolleyes.gif

i'm cant say that i'm a car enthusiast yet, as i had only driven a proton wira, and nothing else. though, there are ppl (my surrounding relatives and humans of the world) commenting that from owning a proton and now wanting to upgrade to a bmw, I would be suiciding. idk, such comments are pulling me back a little. but my girlfriend is really supportive, as she says "if wanna get something, get the best, or dont get it at all". so, yeah.  sweat.gif

generally, i would want a great comfortable ride with comfortable experience. but when i need the punch of a sports car, i can always push it. so there, UDM sounds like the way to go. hahahahah, idk, maybe im out of my mind or something  sweat.gif

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Ohh yeah, the 'bad' I meant was for acceleration, general consensus is that diesels are rough and noisy. Car is very refined during cruising.

I'm guessing in terms of comfort you are worried about the M-sport suspension being too stiff? If the places you are going to do not have alot of potholes, not really a problem, the suspension is actually very well-damped. Plus, if you use normal tyres instead of RFTs, even more comfortable (Less tyre noise and much softer, better grip as well). Less costly too, difference per tire I think around rm500.

I think your gf is right haha, no point upgrading to a 'similar car'. After experiencing conti, impossible to go back to japanese. In my opinion, if cannot afford, just stay with proton.

You should be able to afford the car easily with your current salary without the burden of a housing loan, unless you encounter a car that has engine/transmission issues, hence why you need to ensure that the car has a comprehensive service history + ATF changed.
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post Feb 8 2016, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(niklys @ Feb 8 2016, 09:15 PM)
Hi student93,

Acceleration is bad? Though, the reviews are stating that the diesels are actually more powerful, thus, I do expect better pickup rate, am I wrong? Yes, the general consensus that I'm hearing and noting so far is that diesels are rough and noisy. With your experience, the car is refined during cruising? At what speed onwards it begins to get rough or uncomfortable?

Sorry, but i dont get what are RFTs. most of the places that i go to are places in KL, sometimes outstation (thus got potholes and etc).

i always listen to my gf advice when it comes to wealth and health matters, probably that's why i'm growing financially, mentally, and physically (physically sideways  whistling.gif ). But yeah, after going continental and wanting to go back to japanese, it feels weird I guess in terms of reputation and driving feeling.

besides the engine/transmission issue, comprehensive service history and ATF understanding, i was looking forward to understand more on what could be a potential issue. for that, my odds of selecting and filtering the gem of all trades is better. i genuinely believe that maintaining is regular and issues wont succumb unless inappropriate driving style and careless sense when it comes to taking care of a car surfaced. salary perspective, it seems okay. just that, reassuring is what matters most to me now. hahahahaha! im such a silly diehard beemer fan  wub.gif

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Again my bad for the misleading choice of words haha, the sound during acceleration in the 320d is not as exciting as the 325i, thats all, in terms of performance, very similar. At speed the car never gets rough at all, its only very rough (alot of holes) surfaces that upset the suspension.

RFTs are run-flat tyres, look it up, basically tyres that do not puncture.

Can't give insight on other issues as I've not encountered them myself, fingers crossed tongue.gif I don't think maintainence is that bad tbh, most of the people who say conti will kill you in terms of running costs has probably never owned one anyway. If really cannot tahan, selling it also not an issue because the car has already passed the 5 year mark and depreciation not that steep anymore. I say go for it, live life when you are young! biggrin.gif


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post Feb 8 2016, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(niklys @ Feb 8 2016, 09:33 PM)
Hi student93,

I believe that sound is subjective, to a person preference. I like it when it's not too loud (i know it's a little feminine and not too man-ly driving hahahaha  laugh.gif ) Hmmmmm, the suspension might be of a concern for me. Would prefer a more comfortable ride, even when there's alot of holes or uneven surfaces. is it possible to not get the m-sport suspension? hahahaha, i might be stupid here  rclxub.gif

Ohhhh, that's what you short form for run-flat tyres? hahahaha! okay, RFT would be good i guess. cost a little more and the upset to the comfort driving is not as significant as the suspension i believe. add some dampening acoustic material to the wheel arch and i guess the road noise would be better  thumbup.gif

yeah, finger crossed hopefully no problems occur for your end hahahaha! happy for you the fact that your beemer is healthy  rclxms.gif  biggrin.gif

The steepness of depreciation is true that after the 5 year mark, it's not as bad. moreover, i believe i would be keeping it for long, probably 10 years down the road (unless tesla decided to make super performance car with cheapo electric cost, then otherwise  whistling.gif ). in addition to that, i agree that most non-continental owners do say alot about the negativity, but who am i to judge right? hahahaha! yeah, most probably will go for one, despite the fact that it might be painful for a little while  tongue.gif

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I think 323i will come with stock suspension and most 325i will be specced with m sport. 320d mixed. It's not loud per say, took a 325i for a test drive and the sound was so smooth, look up some vids on youtube. Its different buying new because the cost difference between them was around rm60k and not enough to justify the extra cost just for the sound but if buying used, I think you need to just test drive to see which you prefer.

The 320d is great to drive, 420Nm of torque also no joke, go genting if raining turbo kick in around 2k rpm also tire will slide laugh.gif

Maybe try looking at BMW approved cars as well, I think those come with 1 year warranty.

Hmm, actually RFT quite stiff and performance slightly worse compared to normal tyres, look up some reviews online, most owners tend to change back to normal tyres. Only reason why BMW is using them is so they can design a car without a spare tyre, cutting down weight for FC and emissions reason.

Lastly, taking care of a turbo car abit different also, warming up and cooling down after the drive very important for the turbo, if you get a 320d I'll be happy to advise then thumbup.gif



 

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